British Met Office Proposes Global Temperature Do-Over

[Gill]

The Met, Britain's Weather office, announced today that they are proposing a complete recalculation of global temperature that will be open to the public 100%. The proposal is in response to the massive controversy over temperature records and adjustments.

In the past, the Met office has refused to provide raw temperature data or adjustment methodology to outside scientists and other interested parties. Their refusal resulted in a barrage of FOI requests, and ultimately to the Hadley Centre Climate-gate email leak.

Following is a summary of the proposal:

–”verifiable datasets starting from a common databank of unrestricted data”

–”methods that are fully documented in the peer reviewed literature and open to scrutiny;”

–”a set of independent assessments of surface temperature produced by independent groups using independent methods,”

–”comprehensive audit trails to deliver confidence in the results;”

–”robust assessment of uncertainties associated with observational error, temporal and geographical in homogeneities.”

Met Office Proposal

This constitutes a full scale surrender by the Met office and Hadley Centre. They stonewalled all efforts to make the global temperature record an open book and explain fully how they arrived at the temperature record they publish.

This is good news. Whether the global temperature record changes or not does not matter. It's about time that climate science became an open and honest investigation as science should be.

 

[Renae]

Let's wait and see what comes of this. That it's open will relly help "settle the debate"

 

[Gill]

Let's wait and see what comes of this. That it's open will relly help "settle the debate"

Yes, openness is the real key. I won't hold my breath expecting complete and honest openness based on the past behavior of this crowd.

 

[Renae]

Yes, openness is the real key. I won't hold my breath expecting complete and honest openness based on the past behavior of this crowd.

I agree, however if they DO release the data sets, then anyone can recreate tehm and catch any future tomfoolery.

 

[Deuce]

And let's say it DOES show, "hey, the earth really is warming up pretty fast and it's our fault."

Can we pass cap and trade then? Sign Kyoto?

If they go over all of this again and come up with "nope, nothing to see here, not a problem at all," I'll be thrilled. I'll go fire up my car just because.

Can the "global-warming deniers" say the same, if they happen to be the ones who are wrong?

 

[Gill]

And let's say it DOES show, "hey, the earth really is warming up pretty fast and it's our fault."

Can we pass cap and trade then? Sign Kyoto?

If they go over all of this again and come up with "nope, nothing to see here, not a problem at all," I'll be thrilled. I'll go fire up my car just because.

Can the "global-warming deniers" say the same, if they happen to be the ones who are wrong?

How much did Kyoto slow down warming?

How many countries even met their Kyoto goals??

 

[Manc Skipper]

The Hadley centre is part of the Met office, but not of the University of East Anglia's CRU, where the email storm in a teacup blew up. That denialists repeat such basic errors of fact, despite correction, points to their cavalier approach to facts.

 

[Gill]

The Hadley centre is part of the Met office, but not of the University of East Anglia's CRU, where the email storm in a teacup blew up. That denialists repeat such basic errors of fact, despite correction, points to their cavalier approach to facts.

The HadCRUT temperature data set is compiled by the Met's Hadley Centre in conjunction with the Climate Research Unit at UEA. Could that be why the temperature data set is called HadCRUT ??? As such, they are intertwined in the email scandal since both refused legitimate FOI requests.

Such basic errors by alarmists are typical, but since their bible, the IPCC, also makes egregious errors, it should be expected.

 

[Deuce]

How much did Kyoto slow down warming?

How many countries even met their Kyoto goals??

You didn't answer my question.

If it's shown that yes, holy crap, this is definitely going to be a problem, do we start taking it seriously then?

 

[Gill]

You didn't answer my question.

If it's shown that yes, holy crap, this is definitely going to be a problem, do we start taking it seriously then?

This is only about the historical temperature record and has nothing to do with the hypothesis that CO2 creates global warming.

Now, answer my questions.

 

[Deuce]

This is only about the historical temperature record and has nothing to do with the hypothesis that CO2 creates global warming.

Now, answer my questions.

Quid pro quo, Clarice. You just dodged the question again. Correct the temperature records and establish the CO2-temp correlation. Oh crap our CO2 output is raising temperatures.

**** it, we're America we do what we want?

or

Ok, we need to seriously curb our destructive habit to reduce the impact it will have on our grandchildren. This means I'll have to sacrifice.

 

[Gill]

Quid pro quo, Clarice. You just dodged the question again. Correct the temperature records and establish the CO2-temp correlation. Oh crap our CO2 output is raising temperatures.

**** it, we're America we do what we want?

or

Ok, we need to seriously curb our destructive habit to reduce the impact it will have on our grandchildren. This means I'll have to sacrifice.

Will this investigation and "do over" of global temperatures do anything to establish whether CO2 will raise global temperature dangerously?? As I've already said, the answer is a resounding no.

Let's see if you can be honest. How much, according to global warming theory and the IPCC, would temperature be affected if the entire world reduced CO2 emissions by 25%?

 

[Deuce]

Will this investigation and "do over" of global temperatures do anything to establish whether CO2 will raise global temperature dangerously?? As I've already said, the answer is a resounding no.

Let's see if you can be honest. How much, according to global warming theory and the IPCC, would temperature be affected if the entire world reduced CO2 emissions by 25%?

Beats me! The numbers are all in question now, remember?

I don't know, but I'd sure be interested to know the answer when they come up with it.