Has anyone noticed that the people in the ME are breeding like rabbits, while we allow SSM and abortion, and don't reproduce ourselves? I see that the EU is currently relocating 40,000 muslims who have come to Europe, by sending them to Greece and Spain and more arrive every day, overwhelming the system. Then they start making demands to have things their way. Brilliant strategy - use sheer numbers to kill the democratic process.
Okay, now I am having comprehension problems. Who is "they"?
And what does "since them colored and whites got the right to get married" mean or have to do with anything???
Yes, the roots of the modern American left.As to the supposed MORAL FABRIC .... lest we forget that for a very long time slavery was part of that conservative MORAL FABRIC.
Just remember that a slippery slope starts at the top: "Once you give men and women the right to marry, next thing you know people of the same sex will start demanding the right to marry."
The state finds it beneficial to provide certain benefits to couples in order to create more stable, self-sufficient, productive households.
Okay, now I am having comprehension problems. Who is "they"? And what does "since them colored and whites got the right to get married" mean or have to do with anything???
Has anyone noticed that the people in the ME are breeding like rabbits, while we allow SSM and abortion, and don't reproduce ourselves? I see that the EU is currently relocating 40,000 muslims who have come to Europe, by sending them to Greece and Spain and more arrive every day, overwhelming the system. Then they start making demands to have things their way. Brilliant strategy - use sheer numbers to kill the democratic process.
Pretend I wasn't alive back then and explain this?
Those opposed to ssm were unable to explain those costs before it was made legal in any state, they were unable to point to any costs after it was made legal in 36 states, and they are unable to define what the future costs will be. Just vague assertions of the downfall of civilization and "costs." That, in a nut shell, is why they lost.
Has anyone noticed that the people in the ME are breeding like rabbits, while we allow SSM and abortion, and don't reproduce ourselves? I see that the EU is currently relocating 40,000 muslims who have come to Europe, by sending them to Greece and Spain and more arrive every day, overwhelming the system. Then they start making demands to have things their way. Brilliant strategy - use sheer numbers to kill the democratic process.
Why not go post somewhere on a topic that you do give two ****s about?However, if polygamy is legalized... I could give two ****s less..... still doesn't harm my marriage at all. Neither does gay marriage... despite what the jesus freaks seem to think.
OK, but I'm not trying to be argumentative or combative. I seriously don't understand how the dots connect and was hoping for an explanation. I'm not offended by your position, just trying to understand better. But if you don't care to explain that's fine of course.
Something along these lines.....
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf
Also.... there is this...
My emphasis added via bold/underline..
This next part really helps the argument of someone who would petition the government that plural marriages are constitutional.
Just think of a case where a man in an open relationship got another woman pregnant and wanted to marry her as well to bring her and his new child into his larger family..... for the above reasons that, according to this ruling, are protected by the constitution.
And then of course.... the "in closing" type statement is very supportive of the right of plural marriages...
So, in other words, once again, some people are more equal than others.
So, in other words, once again, some people are more equal than others.
Pretend I wasn't alive back then and explain this?
Polygamy it is. Unless you can identify a legitimate state interest that can be identified in preventing it.
Why not go post somewhere on a topic that you do give two ****s about?
Polygamy it is. Unless you can identify a legitimate state interest that can be identified in preventing it.
The thing is JasparL, I have already explained it in some detail during the course of this discussion and in many discussions preceding this one. Those who pick up on one post and don't take time to read the others will not see all of the argument. And that's okay. That's the way these things go. My concern has been in the past and is now for the kids that I can see nothing good that will come from this. You cannot change the definition of something without making that something different from what it was. So marriage as we have long understood it no longer exists according to the Supreme Court. And THAT is what will make it increasingly irrelevant to our society in general because if getting married makes no difference, why bother to do it? And when people don't bother to do it, all the historical, cultural, and societal benefits are lost. I do believe it will be the children, both straight and gay, who will suffer the worst consequences of that.
I thought I was posting on a topic I gave a **** about......
I was discussing this decision's effect on the Constitution.
All Americans should give two ****s about the Constitution.
I think they explained those costs very well. They are still explaining those costs very well. But those who don't want to hear those costs refuse to hear or consider them and blow them off as irrelevant or nonexistent.
Bork was nominated in 1987 by Reagan and defeated by SEN. Ted Kennedy on the basis of his conservative ideology, not his credentials.
Reagan then nominated Anthony M. Kennedy, the Justice who wrote today's and many other GLBT opinions.
Supreme Court: Anthony Kennedy's gay marriage decision makes justice a gay rights icon - POLITICO
The author of the article states that this action by T. Kennedy became the playbook for nomination battles from then on .
They've never been explained.
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