Joe Steel
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Same can be said for a knife or explosive material or a club. ...
Guns are good tools for getting a high velocity projectile on target. They're a definite improvement over the arm and the sling so, when you want to kill something, a gun is usually a good choice. ...
Nonsense.
Let me interrupt all the political bull**** chatter to share this terribly sad news.
Washington school shooting claims another victim - CNN.com
Damn it all to hell....
I have fire extinguishers too. On the "remote" chance I will need it.You're part of the problem, then. You and everyone like you buys a gun for the remote possibility you might need it someday have contributed to the creation of a huge supply of guns which makes them relatively cheap and easy to get for those who would use them inappropriately.
Sorry you cant see the person holding the gun is the problem. Not the gun.That's the problem. At the margin, gun are the difference between life or death.
No thanks, I don't think of anything you say. Sure to lose IQ points doing so.Think about it.
I mean, the NRA? Seriously? Give your head a shake, laddybuck, you're out of line.
Knives and clubs don't make killing easier? Did you not take any anthropology courses at all? Those were some of the first tools. They were used to make killing easier.
I suppose to an authoritarian statist anyone who believes that the state exists to protect individual liberty and individual freedom will appear radical.You seem to be a radical. Are you a member of a "militia?"
I have fire extinguishers too. On the "remote" chance I will need it.
Guns are made for killing. They're made to make killing fast, safe and easy. When a disturbed person reaches the critical point, an easily available gun makes the killing much, much more possible.
They also took up the issue of an armed citizenry as the second order of business, which suggests it was a critical right they intended be preserved as a foundational aspect of the country.
They aren't a source of significant collateral damage.
Knives and clubs may be used for killing but that is not their primary purpose. They aren't designed to be the most efficient killing tool possible.
Yes, for defense of the country. The world with different then and an armed citizen militia was necessary. So, no, as things have changed we have no reason to believe they wouldn't have changed as well.
Yes, for defense of the country. The world with different then and an armed citizen militia was necessary. So, no, as things have changed we have no reason to believe they wouldn't have changed as well.
That's the problem. At the margin, gun are the difference between life or death.
That's the problem. At the margin, gun are the difference between life or death.
Yes, for defense of the country. The world with different then and an armed citizen militia was necessary. So, no, as things have changed we have no reason to believe they wouldn't have changed as well.
Saw that on the news this morning. I have a 14 year old child myself. I simply can't imagine sending your 14 year old off to school and having her not come home because some maniacal teenager went off the rails. She was in school, not drinking at a party or wandering the streets alone at midnight. She was in school.
Terrible, horrible tragedy. My heart absolutely breaks for her family.
I have two daughters, one in her final year of college, the other a senior in high school (Not all that far from Marysville actually). Like you, it takes my breath away like a knee to the groin when I hear these innocent young kids are dying in school. Where it's supposed to be safe.
Those parents lost their child and their lives, and those of their entire families are ruined. For what?
That's the horrible thing. For what? Absolutely no reason.
What's really scary is how seemingly normal this kid was. He wasn't an outcast, a loner, a kid with issues, a kid who's been seeing doctors all his life....just a normal 14 year old. Makes me shudder.
From what I can gather, it sounds like it was a combination of things. I believe one of the boys he shot was dating the girl he broke up with. The boy was his cousin no less. The girl was the first of two that died.
I can't have her, you can't have her, you are no longer my "brother" kind of thing.
Speculation is all that is.
But yeah, it is scary. And so ****ing sad. I don't know how those kids can walk into that cafeteria ever again. And the teacher who ran toward the gunfire. Wow, what a brave woman. My hat is off to her. But she has to be traumatized. To see that happen in front of you?
Wow. How do you go back to work?
I don't think I could go back to work, and I'll tell you what - if I was a parent who had this happen in her kids school, I'm not sure that I wouldn't NOT consider home schooling, which is something I generally oppose for a lot of reasons.
The trauma for the kids, too. Talk about years of therapy and their hearts stopping the first time someone drops his tray in the cafeteria and they hear a pop.
It's hard to imagine someone at 14 being that devastated over the loss of a girl that he does this. And not that it would have been any better, but seriously...couldn't he have just gone to his cousin's house and not done this at school (and again, not suggesting this would have been a good idea, but it would have been a tiny bit more understandable).
I don't think I could go back to work, and I'll tell you what - if I was a parent who had this happen in her kids school, I'm not sure that I wouldn't NOT consider home schooling, which is something I generally oppose for a lot of reasons.
The trauma for the kids, too. Talk about years of therapy and their hearts stopping the first time someone drops his tray in the cafeteria and they hear a pop.
It's hard to imagine someone at 14 being that devastated over the loss of a girl that he does this. And not that it would have been any better, but seriously...couldn't he have just gone to his cousin's house and not done this at school (and again, not suggesting this would have been a good idea, but it would have been a tiny bit more understandable).
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