BREAKING: British warships head for Black Sea as Muscovite troops mass on Ukrainian border

[Fledermaus]

i posted the map, what do you see on it ?

Not Sweden. I see plenty of RUSSIA in the picture.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

It will not be long before there are more warships in the Black Sea than in the Mediterranean Sea, so which nation engages first?

If any conflict started and stayed in the Black Sea, US and UK ships would be sitting ducks for Russian planes, anti ship missiles and ships. The negatives of operating in an are with restricted access and right next to Russian territory.

Overall the only way something starts is if the Ukraine starts it. Russia is not going to do it, but it will be ready for it

 

[Litwin]

Tell us Litwin...

How does smashing your ignorance and insults make someone "Putin's advocate"?

tell us Fledermaus, how oriental slavery´s standpoint can smash the willpower of a free man ?

 

[Litwin]

If any conflict started and stayed in the Black Sea, US and UK ships would be sitting ducks for Russian planes, anti ship missiles and ships. The negatives of operating in an are with restricted access and right next to Russian territory.

Overall the only way something starts is if the Ukraine starts it. Russia is not going to do it, but it will be ready for it

whats about Romania , Turkey, Bulgaria, Turkey , Georgia, Greece, Ukraine + all our Balkan NATO members ?

 

[Fledermaus]

tell us Fledermaus, how oriental slavery´s standpoint can smash the willpower of a free man ?

What "Oriental slavery" are you babbling about now?

Russia isnt "Oriental". And Slavery is illegal in Russia.

Tell us Litwin...

How does smashing your ignorance and insults make someone "Putin's advocate"?

 

[Fledermaus]

whats about Romania , Turkey, Bulgaria, Turkey , Georgia, Greece, Ukraine + all our Balkan NATO members ?

What about them?

Can they magically make ships invulnerable?

 

[TheParser]

British warships head for Black Sea as Muscovite troops mass on Ukrainian border
Royal Navy warships will sail for the Black Sea next month as tensions continue to rise between Ukrainian and Russian forces.

Putting the ships off the coast of Ukraine is intended to show solidarity with Kiev and Nato allies in the region after the President Biden decided to cancel the deployment of two American warships to the Black Sea last week for fear of escalating the crisis over the massing of Russian troops."

British warships head for Black Sea as Russian troops mass on Ukrainian border

Royal Navy warships will sail for the Black Sea next month as tensions continue to rise between Ukrainian and Russian forces.Putting the ships off the coast of

www.thetimes.co.uk

Great News, Englishmen have always had the guts to stand up to Moscow horde , "The Crimean War[e] was a military conflict fought from October 1853 to February 1856[10] in which Muscovy lost to an alliance made up of France, the Ottoman Empire, the United Kingdom and Sardinia."


the other western countries will follow , Long Live the Europe down to Moscow horde !

1. The Russians are not afraid of Britain anymore. The Brits should not give the Ukrainians false hope.

2. If the Brits want to give symbolic support to anyone, they should send some ships to Hong Kong.

3. Or maybe the Brits should just disband the Navy. Its glory days are over.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

whats about Romania , Turkey, Bulgaria, Turkey , Georgia, Greece, Ukraine + all our Balkan NATO members ?

Turkey is not going to help the US or UK right now. Romania and Bulgaria cant do much. Georgia learned its lesson in 2008, and Greece is to wont do anything in the Black Sea as it does not boarder the area

 

[Litwin]

Turkey is not going to help the US or UK right now. Romania and Bulgaria cant do much. Georgia learned its lesson in 2008, and Greece is to wont do anything in the Black Sea as it does not boarder the area

"Turkey is not going to help the US or UK right now" It helps Ukraine, dont forget that Turkey is Moscow´s long time foe

The Emerging Strategic Axis of Turkey-Ukraine

In recent years, Turkey has been paying close attention to the Black Sea, where it is steadily developing an ever closer relationship with another important country in the region, Ukraine. Ankara-Kiev strategic cooperation is gradually expanding into more and more areas, especially security, and...

moderndiplomacy.eu

 

[Litwin]

UK warships to sail for Black Sea in May as Ukraine-Russia tensions rise- Sunday Times

British warships will sail for the Black Sea in May amid rising tensions between Ukraine and Russia, the Sunday Times newspaper reported, citing senior naval sources.

www.reuters.com

"One Type 45 destroyer armed with anti-aircraft missiles and an anti-submarine Type 23 frigate will leave the Royal Navy's carrier task group in the Mediterranean and head through the Bosphorus into the Black Sea, according to the report.

RAF F-35B Lightning stealth jets and Merlin submarine-hunting helicopters will stand ready on the task group's flag ship, the carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth, to support the warships in the Black Sea, the report added."

 

[Litwin]

update, is it an act of war ?

 

[Fledermaus]

UK warships to sail for Black Sea in May as Ukraine-Russia tensions rise- Sunday Times

British warships will sail for the Black Sea in May amid rising tensions between Ukraine and Russia, the Sunday Times newspaper reported, citing senior naval sources.

www.reuters.com

"One Type 45 destroyer armed with anti-aircraft missiles and an anti-submarine Type 23 frigate will leave the Royal Navy's carrier task group in the Mediterranean and head through the Bosphorus into the Black Sea, according to the report.

RAF F-35B Lightning stealth jets and Merlin submarine-hunting helicopters will stand ready on the task group's flag ship, the carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth, to support the warships in the Black Sea, the report added."

OMG.... One whole destroyer.

GAME CHANGER!

 

[Fledermaus]

update, is it an act of war ?

Source?

 

[jbi]

OMG.... One whole destroyer.

GAME CHANGER!

Don't forget the frigate.

Lets be honest, a single type 45 probably has the capability to track and destroy most Russian air assets in the area.

 

[Fledermaus]

Don't forget the frigate.

Lets be honest, a single type 45 probably has the capability to track and destroy most Russian air assets in the area.

The same mindset preceeded the Falkland Island campaign.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Don't forget the frigate.

Lets be honest, a single type 45 probably has the capability to track and destroy most Russian air assets in the area.

If it was not sunk first. Russia would have an abundance of anti ship missiles in the area, land air and sea launched

 

[Litwin]

Source?

Russia’s Intention To Restrict Navigation in Parts of the Black Sea - United States Department of State

The U.S. expresses its deep concern over Russia’s plans to block foreign naval ships and state vessels in parts of the Black Sea, including near occupied Crimea and the Kerch Strait.

www.state.gov

‘Unprovoked escalation’: US slams Russian plan to block Black Sea

US State Department says the move is part of ongoing campaign to destabilise Ukraine amid Russian troop build-up.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[jbi]

The same mindset preceeded the Falkland Island campaign.

Yes, a fairly lopsided victory

 

[jbi]

If it was not sunk first. Russia would have an abundance of anti ship missiles in the area, land air and sea launched

Indeed, the ships would eventually be lost, but the Russians would likely suffer disproportionately.

 

[Fledermaus]

Yes, a fairly lopsided victory

After losing ships that shouldn't have been lost.

 

[Fledermaus]

Russia’s Intention To Restrict Navigation in Parts of the Black Sea - United States Department of State

The U.S. expresses its deep concern over Russia’s plans to block foreign naval ships and state vessels in parts of the Black Sea, including near occupied Crimea and the Kerch Strait.

www.state.gov

‘Unprovoked escalation’: US slams Russian plan to block Black Sea

US State Department says the move is part of ongoing campaign to destabilise Ukraine amid Russian troop build-up.

www.aljazeera.com

I took a look at both... I don't see the document you posted.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Indeed, the ships would eventually be lost, but the Russians would likely suffer disproportionately.

Not really. I believe the range of Russia’s heavier anti ship missiles are greater than the range of the UK anti aircraft missiles on the type 45. Meaning a reasonable good chance of disabling the ship which might not shoot down a single plane as a result

 

[Litwin]

I took a look at both... I don't see the document you posted.

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand

 

[Tigerace117]

update, is it an act of war ?

Nope.

Nobody is going to war over this.

Get over it.

 

[Tigerace117]

Yes, a fairly lopsided victory

Not.....quite. The Argentinian conscripts didn’t perform particularly well, but their Air Force still gave you lot a hell of a lot of trouble.

And Russia is a MUCH bigger fish than Argentina was.

It’s not 1850 anymore bud.