Shadow Serious
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You have to love the visceral reaction from the right wingers. Immediately throwing the 1st ammendment out there as if that had anything to do with this.
No one has suggested they don't have the right to be stupid ****ing idiots.
The comments were directed to the blatant disregard for the very spirit of Chrisianity they claim to represent.
In my experience....those who shout the loudest about being "Christian" are the ones who practice the least about what Jesus Christ taught.A Christian Church at that. Obviously they have their own take on what that truly means. There's a word for this...
If the boy scouts were allowed to meet there before and now they are not because of gays being permitted to be in BSA then it is biased.
What IS the point? And why would churches being tax exempt piss you off? They by and large are non-profit orgs and to exercise the right of religious afiliation they have to meet somewhere and having it at a dedicated building is more convinent to the members as well to the general public.
I enjoy firing people up..I never act like a fool..I dance around idiots..
If I break the ''rules''..Rules are made to be broken..
What are you??
A slave??
Do you post anything that isn't a strawman these days?
It's their property, that's fine. But face a little truth here - this change in policy doesn't suddenly mean there will be gay scouts anymore than the previous ban meant that there were none. Obviously, this Pastor either lives in the dark or is extremely naive that he thinks it really changes anything.
He got good press from this, and I'm sure when he runs for Congress it'll help him secure the extreme right, or a few more hate-filled people will file into his pews.
So sad that the righties can't own the Scouts anymore :2bigcry:
Really? You think this is ok? You just got the ignore filter.
No one has yet suggested that the churches be brought up on charges.
The Catholic Church certainly deserves to be. Different topic though.
Some how I do not think you know what Christianity means. Repentance is reqired for forgivenes of sin.
Yes because only "true" Christians such as yourself truly understand Christianity.
It is a church. If they feel that allowing gay scouts to use their facilities conflicts with the purpose and teachings of his church, then that is his right. I don't consider it being a jerk--I consider it exercising his organization's right to dissent.
Do you post anything that isn't a strawman these days?
It's their property, that's fine. But face a little truth here - this change in policy doesn't suddenly mean there will be gay scouts anymore than the previous ban meant that there were none. Obviously, this Pastor either lives in the dark or is extremely naive that he thinks it really changes anything.
He got good press from this, and I'm sure when he runs for Congress it'll help him secure the extreme right, or a few more hate-filled people will file into his pews.
So sad that the righties can't own the Scouts anymore :2bigcry:
This thread isn't about whether to take any of their rights away. It is about whether to consider the pastor a jerk, which is obviously a separate issue. And, he is in fact a jerk. Just because he has a right to be a jerk doesn't mean he needs to go ahead and be one.
Must be more of that broad acceptance the left is known for.
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No one's arguing it's not his right to do so, just that he's a douche and a terrible christian.
No one's arguing it's not his right to do so, just that he's a douche and a terrible christian.
Then join his church and take over the congregation and fire him and let the scouts back in. What exactly would be a "good" Christian's politics?
I almost agree with you on both points. However, you know how ridiculous it sounds to christians when they hear non-christians judging what is "christian" and what isn't? Not saying this is the case with you, just generally.
Jesus hung out with the sinners
He is not being a jerk. He had to take a stand due to the decision of the BSA. If he was a jerk not only would he oust them and without giving time for another location he would have made overt comments that go beyond pointng out the problem.
I would never want to join a church, especially one as douchey as that. Christians are supposed to be about "love the sinner" and welcome them in. A good christian would welcome them into his church then use the opportunity to preach to them about the err of their ways.
Because the two terms are mutually exclusive, dissenters can never be jerks :roll:
According to the bible, only the gays themselves would be held accountable before god. The boy scouts have simply decided not to descriminate against sinners, that's not a sin.Well Southern Baptists are not exactly known for loving even each other. So are saying that the gays are sinners before God or that the Boy Scouts are?
According to the bible, only the gays themselves would be held accountable before god. The boy scouts have simply decided not to descriminate against sinners, that's not a sin.
I find the whole gay-bashing tendency of christians to be rather insane. There are no gradients of sin, every sin is equal in the eyes of god. Therefore, their sin of being gay is equally as bad as your sin of lustful thoughts, vices, gluttony, envy, or simply being human.
I find the whole Christian-bashing tendency of progressive secularist rather insane myself, especial when they preach tolerance and diversity, but that is just the reality of life today.
I find the whole Christian-bashing tendency of progressive secularist rather insane myself, especial when they preach tolerance and diversity, but that is just the reality of life today.
As far as I can tell he was not being a jerk about his refusal.
Hilarious. As if the church itself would have a single soul in it if sin and sinners were banned?
Honestly, the inability of the right to admit religious hypocrisy is stunning in its blindness.
I find the homosexual bashing of some Christian sects rather insane myself.
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