Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220:563]

Gaugingcatenate said:

Now that is some feat of circular logic...it is stupid because, as you said before, that it just is stupid...nicely proven in the most efficient liberal fashion... I am sure you must think the work is done here, huh?

What is stupid about it? And really, more to the point, what is illegal about it... why should they be so bullied from their beliefs by you folks? Since it is a legal religious belief, based on at least thousands of years of civilizational practice that have, obviously, been very very successful for Christians, they being the number 1 religion in the world with 2 billion adherents... what have your statist-religon type groups done lately?

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So, right about now you should be giving in, four ..three...two...one....make the jump...

Oh that's right, you are unable...my bad...

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Paschendale said:

And absolutely no one cared what some bigot pastor had to say.

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Kanstantine said:

Being homosexual isn't a sin.

Having homosexual sex is the sin.

That said, why would Christians want to ban children whether or not they commit such sin?

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sangha said:

It only seems circular to you because you keep asking the same questions, so you keep getting the same answers

As far as illegal, there's nothing illegal about it. And no one said there's anything illegal about it.

And no one is being bullied. That's just the religious version of being PC




The ole "I know you are, but what am I" argument.

I should have seen that one coming! :roll:

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dirtpoorchris said:

Exactly. This guy in entitled to his own opinion. And with that said **** him. I hope all his reasonable flock leaves him so they can have a hateful bigot party in seclusion without attempting to indoctrinate decent humans.

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Kanstantine said:

Will the Church be calling for the teenagers who masturbate daily be expelled from the Boy Scouts next?

How about banning teenagers who feel jealousy or greed 3 times a week?

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dirtpoorchris said:

What was it Jesus said when the pharisees accused him of dining with sinners? These fools cant even follow what they preach they just want to hate gay people. Im not saying being gay is wrong. Just that these guys cant even follow what they should be preaching. The "good" kids arent the ones who need preaching right?

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Gaugingcatenate said:

Where is the hate you presuppose of gay people by these religious groups? That what is considered a sin in that faith [ as well as the preponderance of other faiths ] should just be allowed, be accepted, celebrated? As explained in the post you responded to, the homosexual, the person, is not hated, it is the practice that is not at all countenanced... what do you not get about the concept?

That is just plain silliness you speak, make some sense please.

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Kanstantine said:

Will the Church be calling for the teenagers who masturbate daily be expelled from the Boy Scouts next?

How about banning teenagers who feel jealousy or greed 3 times a week?

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Medusa said:

some people claim muslims have no tolerance for gays

l wonder if they see these threads

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TheNextEra said:

What happened to hate the sin and not the sinner. These kids are being punished for something a group did, not the kids.

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Gaugingcatenate said:

These churches are not allowing in the hated sin... there was no mention made of hating any of the Scouts, of whatever preference...can you point to any hate? And it was an organizational decision by the BSA, so if they, the young Scouts themselves, feel they are being improperly punished, maybe have the BS of America return to practices and guidelines more in compliance and more in line with the what is acceptable to the churches they might expect to have cooperative efforts with.

Problem solved.

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Gaugingcatenate said:

These churches are not allowing in the hated sin...

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43“You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.’44“But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,45so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.46“For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?47“If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?48“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

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he tax collectors do the same?47“If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?

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sangha said:

No, they're not letting the hated sinners in



From Matthew 5

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specklebang said:

So, if you are Christian, is everybody that is not a Christian called a gentile? I honestly thought that was a Jewish thing. So I'd like to learn something.

Anybody is welcomed to answer this question. Inquiring mind at work here....

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Gaugingcatenate said:

Just wondering how intellectually honest you are about people who disagree with you.

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Gaugingcatenate said:

Hardly.

At the same time we are not putting that type of behavior on blast, broadcasting it as what we want everyone to just do, openly... again, and you didn't respond to this with my previous response to your post, but who needs to declare openly that they are masturbating or... their sexual preference. That is not at all, or should not be, what scouting is supposed to be all about...why do you folks have to make everything about people's genitalia and how, when they use it and who they use it with? Does everything have to be made so crude for everyone else so that you may enjoy it, and everybody else forced to acknowledge your penchant for just having to tell everybody?

We are not interested, scouting should be about building friendships, teamwork, building character, learning skills...leave them alone for god's sake...

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sangha said:

So, if you are Christian, is everybody that is not a Christian called a gentile? I honestly thought that was a Jewish thing. So I'd like to learn something.

Anybody is welcomed to answer this question. Inquiring mind at work here....


he tax collectors do the same?47“If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?
From Matthew 5

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sangha said:

No, they're not letting the hated sinners in



From Matthew 5

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Gaugingcatenate said:

Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group [as a racial or ethnic or religious group] with hatred and intolerance.

Soooo....

Got a mirror?

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Gaugingcatenate said:

Where is the hate you presuppose of gay people by these religious groups? That what is considered a sin in that faith [ as well as the preponderance of other faiths ] should just be allowed, be accepted, celebrated? As explained in the post you responded to, the homosexual, the person, is not hated, it is the practice that is not at all countenanced... what do you not get about the concept?

That is just plain silliness you speak, make some sense please.

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VanceMack said:

There ya go. Its all about what YOU want. Thats what drives this train.

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Taylor said:

The purpose of the cookie baking club isn't to raise ethical and moral individuals, so it's a poor analogy.

If the church thought it immoral to consume pork, and the cookie baking club suddenly proclaimed that it was going to include members who bake with lard - it would probably suffer the same fate. However, that same Church wouldn't refuse the Boy Scouts on those same grounds (that they don't ban cookie bakers who use lard). Your stance on embracing homosexuality doesn't speak to how you should make cookies, it does speak to how you prepare kids to make ethical and moral choices: some people believe that embracing homosexuality is immoral.

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RabidAlpaca said:

No, it's that he's picked what he thinks is a worse sin, then discriminated on it. (Which he can do, but it doesn't line up with the bible.)

So let's get this straight:

- The boy scouts are a sinful organization because they now allow sinners. (homosexuals)
- There are no gradients of sin. All sin is equal in the eyes of god.
- We are all sinners.
- Churches allow humans into their church, which because they're human, are also sinners.

Therefore, this church is doing the EXACT SAME THING the boyscouts are doing. They're allowing sinners into their congregation (that's the point of a church!)

You don't see the hypocrasy in this? So the boyscouts previously let those guilty of gluttony, lust, envy, and all the other sins, and that was ok, but as soon as they let homosexuals in, that's a no-no because that sin is worse?

Show me in the bible where it says homosexuality is a worse sin than the others.

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