Boy critically injured in Texas megachurch shooting is son of suspect in attack, police say

[Somerville]

Claire Wolfever, the Mercer County shooter was trans. The Idaho mall shooter was trans. Alec McKinney, the shooter at the STEM fair was trans. The Philly shooter was trans. The Colorado Springs shooter identified as non binary.The Denver shooter identified as trans.The Aberdeen shooter identified as trans.The Nashville shooter identified as trans.

Thats just a quick list from the top of my head. Im sure you can find more.

Looks like you need to spend a bit more time reading more reliable news sources.

Moments after the assailant who killed six people at a Nashville private school was identified as transgender, a baseless narrative emerged: that there has been an incredible rise in transgender or nonbinary mass shooters in recent years.

Some pundits and political influencers on social media went further, suggesting that movements for trans rights are radicalizing activists into terrorists.

The data tells a different story, according to gender and criminology experts. Mass casualty shootings perpetrated by someone identifying as trans or nonbinary are rare, and in fact, those groups are far more likely to be the victims of violence. Here’s a closer look at the facts.

First, some bits I found doing the google thing
https://www.meadvilletribune.com/ne...cle_4cb6c9a6-6aa6-11e8-a4df-6fcab6e06214.html Claire Wolfever, shot and wounded a co-worker - Nov 2016

Alec McKinney, 17 years old, trans - was with another student when one of the two killed one fellow student when one of them was tackled, then shot and wounded 8 others at STEM School Highlands Ranch - May 2019. This took place in Denver, so I'm thinking VanceMack made a mistake by adding "Denver shooter" to his list simply to add to the number of trans shooters

Colorado Springs shooter identified as non binary - which is not seen as "trans" by those familiar with the personal identification by individuals. - Nov 2021

Aberdeen, MD shooter - Snochia Moseley was trans. Killed four co-workers and herself, Sept 2018

Nashville shooter - Audrey Hale was trans, shot and killed six at a school she had attended, before she was killed by police. March 2023

Idaho mall shooter 25 Oct 2021 - Jacob Bergquist - not trans - he killed an Army vet who was working as a security guard at the mall - the victim was trans, NOT the shooter

"Philly shooter" - Kimbrady Carriker, who killed 5 people in July 2023 is not trans, though various rightie websites made the claim.

THREE trans shooters since 2018

Are Transgender People Over-Represented in Mass Shootings?​

According to The Violence Project, which maintains a national database of mass public shootings dating back to 1966, 98 percent of mass public shooters are men. Only four shooters of the 191 mass shooters in the database are female, and in two cases, they acted alongside a man.

By the Gun Violence Archive's criteria, transgender people would be expected to have committed at least 16 mass shootings since 2018—but only three possible cases have been cited.

"4 shooters out of over 300 mass shooters since 2009 are transgender or non binary. That's just 1.3 percent of all shooters," Anthony Zenkus, a lecturer in social work at Columbia University, wrote on Twitter. "You just proved our point: 99 percent of mass shooters in the United States are cis gendered."

 

[Pyrite]

Looks like you need to spend a bit more time reading more reliable news sources.



First, some bits I found doing the google thing
https://www.meadvilletribune.com/ne...cle_4cb6c9a6-6aa6-11e8-a4df-6fcab6e06214.html Claire Wolfever, shot and wounded a co-worker - Nov 2016

Alec McKinney, 17 years old, trans - was with another student when one of the two killed one fellow student when one of them was tackled, then shot and wounded 8 others at STEM School Highlands Ranch - May 2019. This took place in Denver, so I'm thinking VanceMack made a mistake by adding "Denver shooter" to his list simply to add to the number of trans shooters

Colorado Springs shooter identified as non binary - which is not seen as "trans" by those familiar with the personal identification by individuals. - Nov 2021

Aberdeen, MD shooter - Snochia Moseley was trans. Killed four co-workers and herself, Sept 2018

Nashville shooter - Audrey Hale was trans, shot and killed six at a school she had attended, before she was killed by police. March 2023

Idaho mall shooter 25 Oct 2021 - Jacob Bergquist - not trans - he killed an Army vet who was working as a security guard at the mall - the victim was trans, NOT the shooter

"Philly shooter" - Kimbrady Carriker, who killed 5 people in July 2023 is not trans, though various rightie websites made the claim.

THREE trans shooters since 2018

more from the apnews cite:

...CLAIM: Four recent shootings show there has been an “incredible rise” in transgender or nonbinary mass shooters in the past few years, making the group “by far the largest group committing as a percentage of the population.”

Donald Trump Jr. spread the narrative widely on Twitter, claiming the supposed “incredible rise” and later saying there was a clear trend forming. The idea was amplified by hundreds of other social media users. Trump Jr. did not respond to a request for comment.

THE FACTS: While specific data on transgender and nonbinary mass shooters can be hard to isolate, available information shows that the overwhelming majority of assailants in mass shootings are cisgender males....

 

[Mongidig]

Or as a human shield?

They like their human shields.

 

[Pyrite]

They like their human shields.

Who "likes" human shields?

Shooters?

Females?

 

[BlueTex]

It says the gun was legally purchased in December. It doesn't say by whom.

Would she be disqualified to purchase based on a background check?

 

[RF667799]

Would she be disqualified to purchase based on a background check?

I don't know. I didn't check into their criminal history that far. Should they have been, and on what basis?

 

[BlueTex]

I don't know. I didn't check into their criminal history that far. Should they have been, and on what basis?

Not in Texas…

 

[RF667799]

Not in Texas…

Let me repeat my question. Should they have been, and on what basis?

 

[Crakhobarbie]

Shifting goal posts?

I said 'trend'. Sure does seem like we have a trend.

We sure do. The trend is straight white men committing mass murders.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N363273/

 

[RF667799]

We sure do. The trend is straight white men committing mass murders.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N363273/

In high profile mass murders of the kind tracked by Mother Jones, whites are pretty much represented in accordance with their demographics in the overall population. Blacks are slightly over-represented I believe, but not to a really significant extent.

Males regardless of race or ethnicity are very over-represented.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

She was likely using the child as cover (an excuse?) for bringing the large bag (containing the rifle) into the church.

So the Mom was a Felon, and had mental issues, who should not have been able to buy the Gun she had ,and called herself Jeffery !
The Laws in place should have prevented her from getting this gun! But the Government is not doing their job, at the harm of the people!
If there wasn't armed security more would have been shot !

 

[ttwtt78640]

So the Mom was a Felon, and had mental issues, who should not have been able to buy the Gun she had ,and called herself Jeffery !
The Laws in place should have prevented her from getting this gun! But the Government is not doing their job, at the harm of the people!
If there wasn't armed security more would have been shot !

See post #37.

 

[BlueTex]

So the Mom was a Felon, and had mental issues, who should not have been able to buy the Gun she had ,and called herself Jeffery !
The Laws in place should have prevented her from getting this gun! But the Government is not doing their job, at the harm of the people!
If there wasn't armed security more would have been shot !

She was not a felon.. Keep looking for excuses…

 

[ttwtt78640]

She was not a felon.. Keep looking for excuses…

I’ve seen some reports that she had an “extensive mental health history”, but it’s unclear if she had been involuntarily committed which should have been included in the NICS database.

 

[BlueTex]

I’ve seen some reports that she had an “extensive mental health history”, but it’s unclear if she had been involuntarily committed which should have been included in the NICS database.

Involuntary commitment is a legal proceeding resulting in a court record. There would be a record..

 

[ttwtt78640]

Involuntary commitment is a legal proceeding resulting in a court record. There would be a record..

There should be a record, but courts don’t always get involved or report such matters to the federal government.

Police and FBI investigators said they have not established a motive for the shooting but were looking into a dispute involving Moreno and the family of Moreno’s ex-husband. Hassig and others said Moreno had a history of mental illness, including being placed under emergency detention in 2016, but provided no additional details.

Shooter entered Texas megachurch with young son and used AR-style rifle in the attack, police say

Court documents say the shooter who opened fire at Houston megachurch used an AR-style rifle before they were killed by security officers.

apnews.com

 

[BlueTex]

There should be a record, but courts don’t always get involved or report such matters to the federal government.

Shooter entered Texas megachurch with young son and used AR-style rifle in the attack, police say

Court documents say the shooter who opened fire at Houston megachurch used an AR-style rifle before they were killed by security officers.

apnews.com

Emergency detention is not disqualifying until a court order is issued. Texas law allows for emergency detention for a short period without a court order.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Emergency detention is not disqualifying until a court order is issued. Texas law allows for emergency detention for a short period without a court order.

Yep, that’s what many support ‘red flag’ laws, which are a ‘close cousin’ of civil asset forfeiture laws (but only apply to suspension of 2A rights).

 

[Mr Person]

Shifting goal posts?

I said 'trend'. Sure does seem like we have a trend.

Based on on data, and according to the guy who seems to have absolute hatred for anyone who thinks differently than he.

Nobody shifted a goal post. They just asked for the painfully ****ing obvious: data sets comparing per capita of violent crime by population, including trans people.

 

[Grand Mal]

What from her background check would have disqualified her under state or federal law?

From the OP...
"...Moreno had a history of mental illness, including being placed under emergency detention in 2016."

I'm not certain but I would hope that's a disqualifier.

 

[BlueTex]

From the OP...
"...Moreno had a history of mental illness, including being placed under emergency detention in 2016."

I'm not certain but I would hope that's a disqualifier.

Nope, not disqualified under current law.

 

[Grand Mal]

Nope, not disqualified under current law.

Damn. Makes one wonder what is a disqualifier.
Imagine this- if I want to buy a handgun part of the check into me is them asking my wife if she's okay with me bringing a handgun into the house.
I frigging guarantee you that previous mental issues including involuntary incarceration for mental issues would disqualify me and frankly any jurisdiction that wouldn't apply that decision just doesn't give a damn. They're lazy.

 

[RF667799]

Damn. Makes one wonder what is a disqualifier.
Imagine this- if I want to buy a handgun part of the check into me is them asking my wife if she's okay with me bringing a handgun into the house.
I frigging guarantee you that previous mental issues including involuntary incarceration for mental issues would disqualify me and frankly any jurisdiction that wouldn't apply that decision just doesn't give a damn. They're lazy.

My wife told me to buy whatever the **** I want.

I didn't realize I would have to pay for it so long....