Blame it all on New York City

[Metric Mouse]

oh, Trump is more vindictive than just bad tweets

Ah. Poor Deblasio, so afraid of Tweety that he let thousands of people in his city die, and spread infection to neighboring states, probably other parts of the country.

 

[jmotivator]

Blame, yup it's the dreaded libs fault. Feel better now? He hit me first mom, no, he hit me first mom. Waaaaaaaaa

Typical progressive nonsense. You can't blame New York **** ups on Trump so it's nobody's fault. :roll:

 

[Metric Mouse]

would he have done if De Blasio had shut down NYC prematurely (in Trump's eyes that is)

So what price does DeBlasio put on each death? How much is a life worth to him?

 

[Metric Mouse]

Typical progressive nonsense. You can't blame New York **** ups on Trump so it's nobody's fault. :roll:

The common denominator between Trump, DeBlasio and Cuomo, the leaders of the worst hit parts of one of the worst hit countries? All New Yorkers.

 

[Paradoxical]

Trump is our "leader" and he sets the tone for the entire country. He was the one saying we were going to be down to zero cases in a week or two; Are you now recommending that we stop listening to Trump? As I said earlier, if that's the case, take him out of office

That was early on before he knew anything about it. DeBlasio was riding the subway in MARCH! As I understand, the subways are still operating and they should be shut down as being cesspools of germs and viruses with homeless bums on them.

 

[Moderate Right]

you didn't answer my question

There was no question to answer. New Yorkers are resonsible, not only for their own mess but the health of everyone else they spread the virus to. Look at California and the state of Washington, where it all started. They took immediate action to control the virus. They didn't need anything from Trump. But, New York politicians not only didn't take any action, they actually went out and downplayed the virus and encouraged people to go on with business as usual. The best you can argue is that the West Coast was smarter by taking action on their own while New Yorkers didn't even listen to Trump.

 

[Paradoxical]

would he have done if De Blasio had shut down NYC prematurely (in Trump's eyes that is)

He bailed out NYC and gave them everything they needed. NYC is a ****ing cesspool and should be walled off. Homeless, illegals, deadbeats. Old people.

 

[jmotivator]

The common denominator between Trump, DeBlasio and Cuomo, the leaders of the worst hit parts of one of the worst hit countries? All New Yorkers.

If you want to lump some of New York's screw ups on Trump then you have to credit Trump for the states that fared better.

If you don't want to credit Trump for Florida and Texas and California's success then you can't blame him for New York.

 

[Paradoxical]

There was no question to answer. New Yorkers are resonsible, not only for their own mess but the health of everyone else they spread the virus to. Look at California and the state of Washington, where it all started. They took immediate action to control the virus. They didn't need anything from Trump. But, New York politicians not only didn't take any action, they actually went out and downplayed the virus and encouraged people to go on with business as usual. The best you can argue is that the West Coast was smarter by taking action on their own while New Yorkers didn't even listen to Trump.

Exactly! They called for everyone to not be prejudiced and support their many Chinese friends and come to the Chinese New Years parade in FEBRUARY for days ion end when they KNEW by that time the virus had COME FROM China. They also know that their city has the most Chinese of any city and that planeloads of Chinese fly in and out of WUHAN every frigging day.

Then, in March, the communist DeBlasio (outlawing large cokes DeBlasio) does a photo op on a subway calling all riders because no one was riding anymore and his bloated city was losing 8o million dollars a DAY.

It's no wonder that NYC has half of the deaths in the entire United States. Blame it on Cuomo and DeBlasio.

 

[Metric Mouse]

If you want to lump some of New York's screw ups on Trump then you have to credit Trump for the states that fared better.

If you don't want to credit Trump for Florida and Texas and California's success then you can't blame him for New York.

I'm willing to lump the good and the bad on him. Just as California did well, New York did awful. Trump was the same, so maybe the difference lies in the state leadership.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Ah. Poor Deblasio, so afraid of Tweety that he let thousands of people in his city die, and spread infection to neighboring states, probably other parts of the country.

apparently you don't know how Trump operates behind the scenes

 

[ldsrptcvt]

So what price does DeBlasio put on each death? How much is a life worth to him?

I'm saying Trump would have made sure even more people would die to make an example of a "bad state"; Trump doesn't care how many people die.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

That was early on before he knew anything about it. DeBlasio was riding the subway in MARCH! As I understand, the subways are still operating and they should be shut down as being cesspools of germs and viruses with homeless bums on them.

DeBlasio's and Cuomo's ignorance about the ability to contain this virus was no worse than anyone else's. The New York Times agreed that they got a late start but commented

"Epidemiologists have pointed to New York City’s density and its role as an international hub of commerce and tourism to explain why the coronavirus has spread so rapidly. And it seems highly unlikely that any response by the state or city could have fully stopped the pandemic."

How Delays and Unheeded Warnings Hindered New York’s Virus Fight - The New York Times

 

[ldsrptcvt]

There was no question to answer. New Yorkers are resonsible, not only for their own mess but the health of everyone else they spread the virus to. Look at California and the state of Washington, where it all started. They took immediate action to control the virus. They didn't need anything from Trump. But, New York politicians not only didn't take any action, they actually went out and downplayed the virus and encouraged people to go on with business as usual. The best you can argue is that the West Coast was smarter by taking action on their own while New Yorkers didn't even listen to Trump.

the question was "was Trump urging them to shut down?" the answer is no, because he also believed it was an over-reaction

 

[ldsrptcvt]

He bailed out NYC and gave them everything they needed. NYC is a ****ing cesspool and should be walled off. Homeless, illegals, deadbeats. Old people.

and the world's largest financial center....any way, my question was would Trump have bailed them out if he thought DeBlasio/Cuomo were undercutting his efforts to keep the country calm? Trump does not respond well to those who question him. Shutting down NYC was a dead giveaway that we were in trouble and Trump knew that would affect the stock market

 

[Paradoxical]

DeBlasio's and Cuomo's ignorance about the ability to contain this virus was no worse than anyone else's. The New York Times agreed that they got a late start but commented

"Epidemiologists have pointed to New York City’s density and its role as an international hub of commerce and tourism to explain why the coronavirus has spread so rapidly. And it seems highly unlikely that any response by the state or city could have fully stopped the pandemic."

How Delays and Unheeded Warnings Hindered New York’s Virus Fight - The New York Times

Not true at all. Everyone KNEW that this virus started in Wuhan on November 19th. Anyone with half a brain also should have known that hundreds of thousands of Chinese flew from there immediately after that. (They didn't all of a sudden start flying in after January).

They should know their city is the most heavily populated Asian city in the United states.

They should have known that their city is like Italy with a very old population and their citizens are on average 2 years older than ANY city in the United States and that this virus kills 80% of those over 65 that get it.

They should have known that their city and neighboring New Jersey are the most heavily populated cities in the world per square mile.

They should have known that subways are breeding grounds for the virus.

They should have known not to send the elderly with Corona Virus back to state run nursing homes.

They should have known that 20,000 CHINESE people at a Chinese New Years parade is not a good thing even if we would have hurt China's precious feelings.

They should have known not to sell off masks because they just went through a near pandemic in 2018

They should have known not to cut the state insurance fund for uninsured people while spending 750 million on solar.


You don't hear a word of the above FACTS on MSM and this is why YouTube now is censoring videos that divulge facts like this because we have a corporatocracy running the world now with Google at the head. Society is being kept in the dark so that Trump can be blamed when this is surely on the leaders in NYC. It was THEY who welcomed illegals and deadbeats with open arms for their votes and who keep building and squeezing people into tiny spaces (including subways) making them all targets for infections.

 

[OldFatGuy]

I guess the idea is that a less crowded store is less likely to spread the disease. Plus the less people exposed the better. Also 1 person doing the shopping that is actually practicing social distancing can accomplish the necessary task without 4 or 5 teens and children running around touching everything and not practicing social distancing. They are increasing the possible spread by 100% for each additional person. Even more than that if they are children and not following safety guidelines the way a single responsible adult might.

It almost makes sense, except teens are proving usually more responsible than adults. And the little ones, much more serious and circumspect about all this. As I walk out the door, the youngest grandkids remind me "Don't forget your mask."

 

[Metric Mouse]

apparently you don't know how Trump operates behind the scenes

Bribes?

 

[Metric Mouse]

I'm saying Trump would have made sure even more people would die to make an example of a "bad state"; Trump doesn't care how many people die.

Well, good thing Deblasio stepped up to the plate and killed them first! A true hero. That'll show Trump!

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Not true at all. Everyone KNEW that this virus started in Wuhan on November 19th. Anyone with half a brain also should have known that hundreds of thousands of Chinese flew from there immediately after that. (They didn't all of a sudden start flying in after January).

They should know their city is the most heavily populated Asian city in the United states.

They should have known that their city is like Italy with a very old population and their citizens are on average 2 years older than ANY city in the United States and that this virus kills 80% of those over 65 that get it.

They should have known that their city and neighboring New Jersey are the most heavily populated cities in the world per square mile.

They should have known that subways are breeding grounds for the virus.

They should have known not to send the elderly with Corona Virus back to state run nursing homes.

They should have known that 20,000 CHINESE people at a Chinese New Years parade is not a good thing even if we would have hurt China's precious feelings.

They should have known not to sell off masks because they just went through a near pandemic in 2018

They should have known not to cut the state insurance fund for uninsured people while spending 750 million on solar.


You don't hear a word of the above FACTS on MSM and this is why YouTube now is censoring videos that divulge facts like this because we have a corporatocracy running the world now with Google at the head. Society is being kept in the dark so that Trump can be blamed when this is surely on the leaders in NYC. It was THEY who welcomed illegals and deadbeats with open arms for their votes and who keep building and squeezing people into tiny spaces (including subways) making them all targets for infections.

you honestly don't remember Trump's playdowns? It was either ignorance or malfeasance.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Bribes?

at least

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Well, good thing Deblasio stepped up to the plate and killed them first! A true hero. That'll show Trump!

good thing DeBlasio saved thousands from Trump's actions

 

[Metric Mouse]

at least

Ooh no! Maybe lawsuits next!

DeBlasio really was feeling the pressure, for sure. No wonder he sacrificed thousands of his constituents, to dodge a lawsuit and take a bribe

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Ooh no! Maybe lawsuits next!

DeBlasio really was feeling the pressure, for sure. No wonder he sacrificed thousands of his constituents, to dodge a lawsuit and take a bribe

the bribes are being taken by Trump - "kiss my ass" has loads of potential meanings

 

[Paradoxical]

you honestly don't remember Trump's playdowns? It was either ignorance or malfeasance.

Are you SERIOUS about this? Trump played it down early on before he knew that China and the WHO lied to him. Cuomo, Pelosi, DeBlasio and others played it down AFTER that.