Its a combination of all three and other but you only allowed one choice so i went with all 3.So may times in the debates people are putting forth what they claim is what determines what a male or female is, per the factors above. There really is no agreement here, despite claims to the contrary. I want to find out what the actual spread is.
Please keep in mind, that this is not a poll on the gender vs sex issue. There is not a question, for this thread and poll, as to what is gender or how that is determined, or is the right label/word symbol being used. This is concentrating solely on the physical biological body.
Note that this poll is not assigning any particular sex either. Whether one's sex is intersex male or intersex female or that the intersex condition is a third label altogether, that is irrelevant to what one will claim is the determining factor. The question before you is what is the determining factor, not what are the resultant sexes.
So the determining factor is what gamete a person produces? Regardless of what their chromosomes are or what organs, internal or external they have or, in some cases, don't have?Thank you for this thread.
The sex of an individual human refers to one of two—and only two—functional roles that an individual may play in sexual reproduction. Males are defined as the sex that produces small, motile gametes (sperm), and females produce large, sessile gametes (ova). There is no third gamete between sperm and ova, and therefore there is no third biological sex apart from male and female. Yes, there is a small portion of the population born with intersex conditions—whereby they exhibit external sex ambiguity, or a mismatch between internal sexual anatomy and external phenotype—but they do not produce unique forms of gametes, or have primary sex organs that would normally produce them, and so they do not constitute a third sex, even if, in some extremely rare cases, they can’t be definitively classified as male or female.
So the determining factor is what gamete a person produces? Regardless of what their chromosomes are or what organs, internal or external they have or, in some cases, don't have?
So it does not mean that except when it does mean that?does not mean you are neither male or female, or that you are both, except in perhaps very rare circumstances of hermaphroditism.
So it does not mean that except when it does mean that?
That's like writing off the existence of female ants as genetic aberrations because 99.99% of ants are male. If our theory of gravity worked normally 99.99% of the time but we found one tiny 0.01% space where gravity was inverted we would need a new theory of gravity. Sex is pretty clearly bimodal. That is the medical understanding of sex.Biology clearly shows that there are 2 and only 2 sexes in the Human race, controlled entirely by the chromosomes of the individual. Anything outside of this (intersex) are genetic aberrations.
no, it's nothing like that.That's like writing off the existence of female ants as genetic aberrations because 99.99% of ants are male.
Sex is binary in the human species. Male, female, or genetic aberrations (mistakes)If our theory of gravity worked normally 99.99% of the time but we found one tiny 0.01% space where gravity was inverted we would need a new theory of gravity. Sex is pretty clearly bimodal. That is the medical understanding of sex.
Isn't it? You are saying they are aberrations just because they are genetically rare. Intersex people are MUCH more common in humans than female ants are in ants.no, it's nothing like that.
Ok, so 0.018% of humans are not classifiable as male or female. Let's see how many ants are female;If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female. Applying this more precise definition, the true prevalence of intersex is seen to be about 0.018% (Source)
Using the high estimate of 200 we get....Sugar ants are social insects and live only in colonies. A colony has a sugar ant queen, reproductive male ants, and non-reproductive workers. They find food and bring it to the queen. One sugar ant colony has up to 350 thousand individuals, among which there are 100-200 adult females except for the sugar ant queen. (Source)
All genetics is a mistake. Literally all of evolution is a history of genetic mistakes. Intersex people are rare but exist, and that's why scientists and medical professionals understand sex is a bimodal distribution.Sex is binary in the human species. Male, female, or genetic aberrations (mistakes)
Right. As I pointed out, it's nothing like that at all.Isn't it? You are saying they are aberrations just because they are genetically rare. Intersex people are MUCH more common in humans than female ants are in ants.
irrelevant and off topicOk, so 0.018% of humans are not classifiable as male or female. Let's see how many ants are female;
scientists, specifically biologists, know that sex is binary.All genetics is a mistake. Literally all of evolution is a history of genetic mistakes. Intersex people are rare but exist, and that's why scientists and medical professionals understand sex is a bimodal distribution.
Other. It is determined by the gonads and the gametes that those gonads are designed to produce. Of course, this is also linked to xx and xy chrmosomes in 99% of cases.
So in the cases where the gonads do not develop one way or the other and thus do not produce gametes (yes, yes, I know. Rare occurrence.) How is determination then made?Well the gamete is determined by the primary sexual reproduction organ. Testes can't produce eggs and ovaries can't produce sperm.
But if the gamete and gamete producing organs are the determining factor and they do not develop in a person with Klinefelter, then how is the person determined to be male?Also, just a quick comment on intersex, or DSDs as they are correctly referred to: having a DSD (being intersex) does not mean you are neither male or female, or that you are both, except in perhaps very rare circumstances of hermaphroditism.
Many DSDs are only linked to one particular sex. Klinfelter syndrome, for example, is a condition that affect only males. It doesn't make them a bit female or somewhere in the middle. They are wholly male.
no, it's nothing like that.
Sex is binary in the human species. Male, female, or genetic aberrations (mistakes)
But what determines when there is a genetic aberration? Or do you tell that person they are neither male nor female?Biology clearly shows that there are 2 and only 2 sexes in the Human race, controlled entirely by the chromosomes of the individual. Anything outside of this (intersex) are genetic aberrations.
So may times in the debates people are putting forth what they claim is what determines what a male or female is, per the factors above. There really is no agreement here, despite claims to the contrary. I want to find out what the actual spread is.
Please keep in mind, that this is not a poll on the gender vs sex issue. There is not a question, for this thread and poll, as to what is gender or how that is determined, or is the right label/word symbol being used. This is concentrating solely on the physical biological body.
Note that this poll is not assigning any particular sex either. Whether one's sex is intersex male or intersex female or that the intersex condition is a third label altogether, that is irrelevant to what one will claim is the determining factor. The question before you is what is the determining factor, not what are the resultant sexes.
Actually that would be writing off males. The vast majority of ants and bees are female.That's like writing off the existence of female ants as genetic aberrations because 99.99% of ants are male. If our theory of gravity worked normally 99.99% of the time but we found one tiny 0.01% space where gravity was inverted we would need a new theory of gravity. Sex is pretty clearly bimodal. That is the medical understanding of sex.
That's because I didn't say gender binary. I clearly said, and you directly quoted me saying, that sex is binary.Your gender-binary dogma doesn't answer the question.
That's because I didn't say gender binary. I clearly said, and you directly quoted me saying, that sex is binary.
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