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You've obviously missed a big passage here:
Apocalypse said:The freezing means that no new constructions would be approved.
This construction has received its approval long ago, during Olmert's time.
Olmert's decision came a long time before the freezing decision.Are you trying to contradict me or yourself here?
Olmert's decision came a long time before the freezing decision.
The renewed approval, as pointed out by your article, is an exemption due to the fact that the constructions were paused due to a funds problem, hence a renewed approval was necessary even though the construction was already approved.
One way or the other, you're arguing about one single case here that was made an exemption.
You have got absolutely nothing to say on the rest of the buildings that were all frozen.
Israel itself has made it known that this is an exemption.Actually the article says the construction was paused due to “infrastructure problems and safety issues", not funds.
And it is not a renewed approval. The construction was granted a permit under the Olmert government, but it was never approved under the Olmert government.
One single case is all I need to show that Israel cannot abide by its own promises.
That clearly says nothing
If Israel has any interests in peace then she would need to understand concessions are needed. She may say it is not occupied but the UN does not.
I notice you are Christian and extreme. Someone gave me a link to a Christian party once which fully supported Israel but only because they were going to get something out of this. They also had some murkey anti Jew stuff going on.
Whatever.
Concessions WERE made and the PLO rejected them.
Yes, I am Christian, but what about supporting democracy and Israel's security makes me extreme?
Why am I not surprised to learn that Barack Obama is snubbing Netanyahu? Like all Muslims and Islamic sympathizers, they don't like Israel.
Concessions WERE made and the PLO rejected them.
Yes, I am Christian, but what about supporting democracy and Israel's security makes me extreme?
Right so Obama and the world should be clear, peace is not on offer. :doh
Are you incapable of understanding peace is a two way street? If the PLO does nothing but reject you can't have peace.
Unless you just hate Israel and the jooz and don't care.
Concessions WERE made and the PLO rejected them.
Right so Obama and the world should be clear, peace is not on offer.
I won't respond to you again. If
is a response to the idea of peace talks then my answer
is completely appropriately.
Now please go back to whoever is looking after you and ask them to teach you some manners.
As I said, no more abusive replies from you will be replied to.
Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner' - Times Online
What a bumbling fool. Insulting one of our closest allies with such idiocy is really unbelievable.
But considering the moronic capitulation to Russia and turning our back on Poland with absolutely no diplomatic gain this kind of adolescent diplomacy really isn't surprising anymore.
Thank you President Obama for once again showing that experience actually does matter. :roll:
I won't respond to you again. If
is a response to the idea of peace talks then my answer
is completely appropriately.
Now please go back to whoever is looking after you and ask them to teach you some manners.
As I said, no more abusive replies from you will be replied to.
It is prolly just for show to play down our and their actual ties. Notice how America still puts its chips in on Israel's side when it comes to the UN.
You should be siding with the people who cheered 9.11. Didn't you know that?
Right so Obama and the world should be clear, peace is not on offer. :doh
I have no interest in your views on democracy. Possibly on your reasons for supporting Israel as you showed yourself to be an extreme Christian here.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...building-east-jerusalem-7.html#post1058645368
You carry on to discuss the Crusades with Degreez. As I said someone did tell me some time ago about some Christians who were on the side of Israel but not because they were interested in the well being of the current people.
Your harping on about the Crusades made me feel you are somewhat extremist and wondered whether that was the reason and that was what I asked you.
At the same time your interest in supporting Israel may simply be because you hate all Muslims because of the Crusades and you feel supporting Israel is one of the easiest ways to get at them.
I do not know but that was the area where I was suggesting you were extreme.
As I said, no more abusive replies from you will be replied to.
You should be siding with the people who cheered 9.11. Didn't you know that?
Thank you. Our nation has sacrificed more persons to protect others nations. Euro hates us, Israel uses us. We have our own crap to fix at home.
Great Brittan is the only nation I think we should help.
Peace is not on offer due to the actions and rejections of the PALESTINIANS, not the Israelis.
So, an HONEST apprasial about history somehow makes me an EXTREMIST? Pointing out the truth of THIRTEEN CENTURIES of Islamic aggression against Christianity makes me an EXTREMIST? How many formerly Christian lands have been conquered by Muslims? How long have Christians had to right to get their lands back .. INCLUDING AS RECENTLY AS THE TWENTIETH CENTURY?!?!? How is looking at the TRUTHS of history make one an extremist?!?! Or are you simply trying to turn a blind eye to the truth of the matter.
I don't hate Muslims because of the Crusades. Islamic aggression PREDATES the Crusades and has NEVER STOPPED. Honesty about the situation does NOT make one an extremist. I merely don't want the Christian world to have to put up with Islamic aggression anymore.
Oh is it you and the Christian Crusaders now who are going to choose whether peace is on offer. It remains from your viewpoint, a Christian one, that for whatever reason Obama and the world needs to know that your brand of Christianity does not want peace in the middle east and it would appear will support anything Israel does against this.
Of course it makes you an extremist. We have none of your sort here in the UK. However I saw some documentary's on the Crusades some time back and there is evidence that your forbears who were on them were eating children. They had them up on spits and roasted them...so do not try to tell me there is anything superior to you than to Muslims. There is no evidence that Muslims did this to Christian children.
You are also extreme in that not all Christians like yourself, like to spread hate.
right and that 'Christian' world would be Israel. You do not want Israel to have to put up with Muslims because you would like it once again for Christians.
So, being historicall honest and saying that the Crusades were a RESPONSE to centuries of Islamic aggression (historical fact) and that Islamic jihad agaisnt Christians started in the 7th century (historical fact) and that Islam's war against Christians did NOT end with the Crusades but continued for centuries more (historical fact) makes me an EXTREMIST?!?!? Sorry, YOU are the one with the problem here, not me. You need to look at history and remember that were it not for heros at places like Tours and Vienna, the Western world could very well be a lot more Muslim today than it is due to Islamic aggression against the Christian world.
What you call aggression, others call liberation. The administration of the Holy Lands was not an oppressive one, as it was under Byzantine rule. Jews were allowed back into Jerusalem after five hundred years. Nestorian and Jacobite Christians were no longer persecuted by the Roman Empire. No doubt you will probably state that they were still oppressed because they had to pay the jizya (poll tax). The poll tax was only for non-Muslims and made them exempt from military service. Muslims already pay the zakat, an obligation not forced on non-Muslims.
And it's funny you call it 'Christian lands' while spouting about 'historical fact'. Here's a fact, before Muslims invaded the Levant, Persians had been in control of the region for over twenty years.
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