'BIGGEST COVER-UP IN HISTORY' I worked with the Wuhan lab – I tried to warn them & I KNOW Covid was a lab leak

[Fledermaus]

Fauci probably knew about this before Trump.

And?

Are you implying Fauci didn't inform the President?

 

[Queen Margo]

How about Fauci?

He can only advise. It is up to the President to act.

Fauci did a bad job of advising then. It was Fauci who said we did not need to wear masks from the get go. If he knew about his in August and really felt we should wear masks then they should have manufactured the masks instead of him lying that we did not need masks to preserve the N95's for the first responders.

 

[mike2810]

and if Trump would have said that the Wuhan Lab in China had a leak from their laboratory where they were playing Frankenstein with this virus with American money and in conjunction with Dr. Science himself Fauci, the left would have laughed!!

you will never know if the "left would have laughed", because Trump made no such statement.

 

[Fledermaus]

Fauci did a bad job of advising then.

This should be good.

It was Fauci who said we did not need to wear masks from the get go. If he knew about his in August and really felt we should wear masks then they should have manufactured the masks instead of him lying that we did not need masks to preserve the N95's for the first responders.

It is hard to tell if this is simple ignorance or an intentional lie.

He never waivered in recommending masks to decrease transfer from the infected to the uninfected.

And hell. Why would we want to reserve the N95s for the first responders?

Hmmmm?

Finally Fauci isn't the person directing the manufacturing of masks.

 

[mrjurrs]

it was covert -DARPA
when Covid emerged in late 2019, he said China "and some of their US government collaborators at the Department of State, USAID, and the Department of Defense went into full cover-up mode".

Dr Huff said he "has good reason to believe that the US government was alerted to the outbreak in August or October 2019".

He quit EcoHealth Alliance in 2016 "due to a large number of ethical concerns with the scientific work and EcoHealth Alliance as a whole".

But in late 2019, he was suddenly offered a position at Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) - and was told he would need top security clearance and a polygraph for the job.

Dr Huff now believes he was approached for the role to keep him quiet about the origins of Covid.

Lots of 'believes' in his statement.

 

[ecofarm]

Tabloid

lol

 

[Mr Person]

If the US government was alerted to the outbreak as early as August, that would paint the Trump administrations's incompetence in an even worse light.

We should be grateful they aren't so big on thinking things through.

 

[Mr Person]

oh man. is this always about partisan politics with you?

It appears EcoAlliance was setting up these contract labs for GOF -the question is why -expecially when they knew Wuhan had security programs

Because it's not about politics for anatta?



The cowardice and idiocy of the dodge says it all.

 

[KingLeo]

EcoHealth Alliance Statement Regarding Book by Andrew Huff​

The actual “truth about Wuhan” is:
1) Mr. Huff was employed by the EcoHealth Alliance from 2014 to 2016. However, reports that he worked at or with the Wuhan Institute of Virology during that time are untrue. He was assigned to a completely different project working on computer-based algorithms to assess emerging disease threats.


2) Mr. Huff alleges that EcoHealth Alliance was engaged in gain of function research to create SARS-CoV-2. This is not true.


3) Mr. Huff makes a number of other speculations and allegations about the nature of the collaboration between EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Given that he never worked at or with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, his assertions along these lines cannot be trusted.


4) Mr. Huff claims that SARS-CoV-2 emerged as a lab leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology based on research conducted there on bat coronaviruses and, further, that this research was related to U.S. intelligence gathering efforts. This is not true.


5) Mr. Huff argues that the origin of COVID-19 is definitely due to a lab leak, yet he provides no scientific evidence to support his case. To the contrary, the emerging consensus, based on peer-reviewed scientific evidence, is that COVID-19 originated through zoonotic spillover. Substantial published scientific evidence indicates that COVID-19 originated via a similar pathway to SARS, involving a spillover from bats to intermediate animal hosts, then to people within the wildlife trade, leading to the first known cluster in the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan, China, in December 2019. The hypothesis that SARS-COV-2 was created in a laboratory is now widely considered less probable than emergence via the wildlife trade. A recent report by the Independent Task Force on COVID-19 and Other Pandemic Origins, Prevention, and Response, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, reviews the considerable peer-reviewed literature and concludes that the preponderance of the evidence is most consistent with COVID-19’s origin as a zoonotic infection within the wildlife trade. While a lab leak cannot be absolutely ruled out, the Independent Task Force found no verifiable and credible evidence or scientific data to support this interpretation.

EcoHealth Alliance Statement Regarding Book by Andrew Huff - EcoHealth Alliance

EcoHealth Alliance Statement Regarding Publication of Andrew Huff’s "The Truth About Wuhan" Book.

www.ecohealthalliance.org

 

[The AntiDonald]

Are you suggesting that our government didn't inform the President of the outbreak, and what reason do you have to support that? Because I remember countless White House and National Security officials saying they'd try to brief Trump and he refused to pay attention if it wasn't about him.

Perhaps now we know what some of those stolen documents were. Proof that he knew about Covid as early as August 2019 and did nothing to prepare.

 

[RealityNow]

Trump's Lying

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quote
Trump’s comments to Woodward stand in stark contrast to how he has portrayed the threat to the public. Three days after the initial conversation, the president on February 10th dismissed the virus as something that “a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in.” He continued to downplay Covid-19 in the critical weeks that followed, claiming that it was “very much under control” and insisting the number of cases was trending downwards. “It’s going to disappear,” Trump said at the White House on February 27th. “One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”
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[Good4Nothin]

EcoHealth Alliance Statement Regarding Book by Andrew Huff​

The actual “truth about Wuhan” is:
1) Mr. Huff was employed by the EcoHealth Alliance from 2014 to 2016. However, reports that he worked at or with the Wuhan Institute of Virology during that time are untrue. He was assigned to a completely different project working on computer-based algorithms to assess emerging disease threats.


2) Mr. Huff alleges that EcoHealth Alliance was engaged in gain of function research to create SARS-CoV-2. This is not true.


3) Mr. Huff makes a number of other speculations and allegations about the nature of the collaboration between EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Given that he never worked at or with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, his assertions along these lines cannot be trusted.


4) Mr. Huff claims that SARS-CoV-2 emerged as a lab leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology based on research conducted there on bat coronaviruses and, further, that this research was related to U.S. intelligence gathering efforts. This is not true.


5) Mr. Huff argues that the origin of COVID-19 is definitely due to a lab leak, yet he provides no scientific evidence to support his case. To the contrary, the emerging consensus, based on peer-reviewed scientific evidence, is that COVID-19 originated through zoonotic spillover. Substantial published scientific evidence indicates that COVID-19 originated via a similar pathway to SARS, involving a spillover from bats to intermediate animal hosts, then to people within the wildlife trade, leading to the first known cluster in the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan, China, in December 2019. The hypothesis that SARS-COV-2 was created in a laboratory is now widely considered less probable than emergence via the wildlife trade. A recent report by the Independent Task Force on COVID-19 and Other Pandemic Origins, Prevention, and Response, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, reviews the considerable peer-reviewed literature and concludes that the preponderance of the evidence is most consistent with COVID-19’s origin as a zoonotic infection within the wildlife trade. While a lab leak cannot be absolutely ruled out, the Independent Task Force found no verifiable and credible evidence or scientific data to support this interpretation.

EcoHealth Alliance Statement Regarding Book by Andrew Huff - EcoHealth Alliance

EcoHealth Alliance Statement Regarding Publication of Andrew Huff’s "The Truth About Wuhan" Book.

www.ecohealthalliance.org

What do you expect EcoHealth Alliance to say????

 

[Paradoxical]

If the US government was alerted to the outbreak as early as August, that would paint the Trump administrations's incompetence in an even worse light.

Geez!! Will you stop injecting TRUMP into every damn post!???

 

[mike2810]

What do you expect EcoHealth Alliance to say????

Do you have any information that what EcoHealth Alliance stated is untrue other than Dr. Huff statements?
If so, please post links.

 

[Good4Nothin]

Do you have any information that what EcoHealth Alliance stated is untrue other than Dr. Huff statements?
If so, please post links.

LOTS of information, from RESPECTED scientists. Matt Ridley and Alina Chan, for example. Plenty of reasons to think lab origin is true, almost no reasons to think natural origin is true. Unless you prefer to trust motivated propaganda.

 

[Fledermaus]

LOTS of information, from RESPECTED scientists. Matt Ridley and Alina Chan, for example. Plenty of reasons to think lab origin is true, almost no reasons to think natural origin is true. Unless you prefer to trust motivated propaganda.

What information do you have that what EcoHealth Alliance stated is untrue?

 

[Good4Nothin]

What information do you have that what EcoHealth Alliance stated is untrue?

All the information I have seen that contradicts it. And EcolHealth Alliance has motivations to cover up the truth, while people like Matt Ridley do not.

 

[Fledermaus]

All the information I have seen that contradicts it. And EcolHealth Alliance has motivations to cover up the truth, while people like Matt Ridley do not.

All the evidence YOU have seen?

 

[Threegoofs]

All the information I have seen that contradicts it. And EcolHealth Alliance has motivations to cover up the truth, while people like Matt Ridley do not.

Matt Ridley is not a scientist. He’s a science writer.

 

[mike2810]

LOTS of information, from RESPECTED scientists. Matt Ridley and Alina Chan, for example. Plenty of reasons to think lab origin is true, almost no reasons to think natural origin is true. Unless you prefer to trust motivated propaganda.

What makes Ridley and Chan "respected" scientist?
- Ridley is a science writer more than a scientist.
- Chan at least is a micro biologist and to quote her "she says. “A born shit stirrer.”

They called it a conspiracy theory. But Alina Chan tweeted life into the idea that the virus came from a lab.

The whistleblowing scientist who advanced the lab-leak theory plans to change her name and disappear, but only after a book deal.

www.technologyreview.com

The lab leak is one theory. It is not proven. Even Chan has not presented any proof. She did raise the discussion of the lab leak theory.
The natural origan is also a theory and not proven.

Like many disasters conflicting theories are born out of "it is possible", "what if", and "could it be". Just look at 9/11. Some say the towers were destroyed by:
energy beams, controlled demolition using thermite, nanothermite, nukes, conventional explosives. All competing for attention and dollars. Most based on the idea that no steel building has collapsed due to fire.

Bottom line, we may never know the true story behind the covid pandemic.

 

[Good4Nothin]

What makes Ridley and Chan "respected" scientist?
- Ridley is a science writer more than a scientist.
- Chan at least is a micro biologist and to quote her "she says. “A born shit stirrer.”

They called it a conspiracy theory. But Alina Chan tweeted life into the idea that the virus came from a lab.

The whistleblowing scientist who advanced the lab-leak theory plans to change her name and disappear, but only after a book deal.

www.technologyreview.com

The lab leak is one theory. It is not proven. Even Chan has not presented any proof. She did raise the discussion of the lab leak theory.
The natural origan is also a theory and not proven.

Like many disasters conflicting theories are born out of "it is possible", "what if", and "could it be". Just look at 9/11. Some say the towers were destroyed by:
energy beams, controlled demolition using thermite, nanothermite, nukes, conventional explosives. All competing for attention and dollars. Most based on the idea that no steel building has collapsed due to fire.

Bottom line, we may never know the true story behind the covid pandemic.

The 9/11 conspiracy theories were ridiculous. Lab origin is a legitimate rational theory.

Why did China take down the databases that would have shown exactly what viruses they were working on?

Why did EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Daszak and Anthony Fauci immediately deny there was any possibility of lab origin?

Why has no animal vector been found?

Why did Fauci deny that gain of function research was being done at Wuhan, when it is now know that it was being done?

Why was the US helping to fund research in a lab that was obviously unsafe?

Horseshoe bats live far from Wuhan, and no one has a theory how they got there naturally. The coronaviruses that infect them were being collected by Wuhan researchers, since 2018.

The gain of function research at Wuhan intended to make these viruses able to infect humans. And they were testing them on humanized mice and human respiratory tissues.

And there is plenty more. But what more could you need?

 

[mike2810]

The 9/11 conspiracy theories were ridiculous. Lab origin is a legitimate rational theory.

Why did China take down the databases that would have shown exactly what viruses they were working on?

Why did EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Daszak and Anthony Fauci immediately deny there was any possibility of lab origin?

Why has no animal vector been found?

Why did Fauci deny that gain of function research was being done at Wuhan, when it is now know that it was being done?

Why was the US helping to fund research in a lab that was obviously unsafe?

Horseshoe bats live far from Wuhan, and no one has a theory how they got there naturally. The coronaviruses that infect them were being collected by Wuhan researchers, since 2018.

The gain of function research at Wuhan intended to make these viruses able to infect humans. And they were testing them on humanized mice and human respiratory tissues.

And there is plenty more. But what more could you need?

Did not say the lab leak was not a valid theory.
I have questioned the "could be", "may be possible" without other evidence other than circumstantial.

I could have used Trump's rigged election theory by saying it is possible to hack a tabulator. Well yes, if you have access. First you have to defeat an air gap system. Because something is possible does not always mean that is what happened.

Might as well ask then President Trump.
Why did Trump allow the research funding to continue?
Why did Trump downplay the pandemic and mislead the American people?
Why did Trump promote treatment for covid that were known to be ineffective?
When did Trump know about covid and the damage it could do?

 

[Good4Nothin]

Did not say the lab leak was not a valid theory.
I have questioned the "could be", "may be possible" without other evidence other than circumstantial.

I could have used Trump's rigged election theory by saying it is possible to hack a tabulator. Well yes, if you have access. First you have to defeat an air gap system. Because something is possible does not always mean that is what happened.

Might as well ask then President Trump.
Why did Trump allow the research funding to continue?
Why did Trump downplay the pandemic and mislead the American people?
Why did Trump promote treatment for covid that were known to be ineffective?
When did Trump know about covid and the damage it could do?

Nothing I said has anything to do with Trump. I provided a list of reasons for taking the lab origin theory seriously. How did you bring Trump into it?

If Trump knew about the gain of function research at Wuhan, if his medical advisor Fauci had bothered to tell him, then Trump is also guilty of helping to cause the pandemic. I have no love for Trump and whatever he said on any topic has no influence over my opinions.

 

[mike2810]

Nothing I said has anything to do with Trump. I provided a list of reasons for taking the lab origin theory seriously. How did you bring Trump into it?

If Trump knew about the gain of function research at Wuhan, if his medical advisor Fauci had bothered to tell him, then Trump is also guilty of helping to cause the pandemic. I have no love for Trump and whatever he said on any topic has no influence over my opinions.

You started asking a bunch of questions about US funding research, etc. I brought Trump into it because he was the President at the time of the outbreak.
Trump was front and center for many months leading the WH Covid team news conferences.

If you want to bash Dr. Fauci, then you need to bash then President Trump. Didn't they both perform badly in your opinion?

You could be right that he didn't know about the research. It has been reported that Trump did not pay much attention to intelligence briefings, especially if he was given just written papers to read.

 

[KingLeo]

What do you expect EcoHealth Alliance to say????

EcoHealth stating the facts as opposed to Andrew Huff not being honest and trying to sell his book.