Biden says he suggested to UK's Johnson a plan to rival China's Belt and Road

[Port & Starboard]

Be specific about the “pro corporate” aspects of the TPP.

I was nota ware that the discussions had got that far along.

Trump proposed no alternative.

Indeed, it was very obvious from his rally comments that he didn’t even know what the TPP was, but he knew that it had something to do with China, and he knew that his no nothing mobs would cheer if he made a show of opposing anything that had to do with China.

That was about the beginning and end of most Trump policy.

Kudlow spoke on China almost every day, and you come up with this rally crap?

Did you have a little wax build up back then?

 

[Port & Starboard]

It doesn’t exist .....yet.

He did not intend of offer a full blown plan as yet.

But if it gets a favorable response, you can bet he’ll put a team together to develop one.

Which is something that Trump didn’t know how to, had no people competent enough to lead, and didn’t even care about.

It's so great but you have no idea what is it.

What a great business plan to bring to the bank.....right?

 

[nvflash]

Possibly. We’ll see.

Only thing I see is us going broke because we forgot to mind our own business long ago.

 

[Kushinator]

What part of the truth scares you the most?

You replied to my statement and yet refuse to address anything you've quoted.

Why are you unable to discuss the topic? What I am afraid of isn't up for debate....

 

[Kushinator]

Kudlow spoke on China almost every day, and you come up with this rally crap?

Kudlow is a piece of trash who has been wrong about everything. You've lost credibility bringing his name to your defense.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Kudlow is a piece of trash who has been wrong about everything. You've lost credibility bringing his name to your defense.

And his replacement stated that outsourcing is a good thing.

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I was told as a youngster that Democrats were the party of the working class. I can’t believe our president-elect, a Democrat, has selected Janet Yellen to be Treasury secretary. She is not our friend.

She calls outsourcing, which sent millions of American’s jobs to China, “another form of trade that benefits the U.S. economy.” She was president of the San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank at the beginning of the housing debacle and rose to chairman during the faux recovery. She did nothing to rein in that orgy of greed that ripped our economy apart.

 

[Litwin]

this what people of Myanmar need most today

 

[Kushinator]

And his replacement stated that outsourcing is a good thing.

Wow... Talk about ignorance. What compels a person to speak as such without having even basic knowledge of the subject???

Kudlow wasn't the Treasury Secretary... he isn't even an economist... and again, has been wrong about everything.

As for your wannabe strawman: outsourcing is a good thing. You're just too ignorant of economics to have even the slightest clue.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Wow... Talk about ignorance. What compels a person to speak as such without having even basic knowledge of the subject???

Kudlow wasn't the Treasury Secretary... he isn't even an economist... and again, has been wrong about everything.

As for your wannabe strawman: outsourcing is a good thing. You're just too ignorant of economics to have even the slightest clue.

Yeah.....we all love Chinese Drywall.

 

[Surrealistik]

Be specific about the “pro corporate” aspects of the TPP.

I was nota ware that the discussions had got that far along.

Trump proposed no alternative.

Indeed, it was very obvious from his rally comments that he didn’t even know what the TPP was, but he knew that it had something to do with China, and he knew that his no nothing mobs would cheer if he made a show of opposing anything that had to do with China.

That was about the beginning and end of most Trump policy.

The TPP was an overwhelmingly pro-corporate, anti-labour disaster at the time of its demise; it needs serious revision and rework before it is worth drafting:

TPP: Massive giveaway to corporate interests

To any member of Congress who truly believes that this trade pact is good for America, we only have one thing to say – read it.

thehill.com

Despite What Media Says, TPP Isn't About Free Trade -- It's About Protecting Corporate Profits

It’s inaccurate to describe TPP opponents as opposed to trade—the deal is more focused on crafting regulatory regimes that benefit certain industries.

theintercept.com

Why the TPP Won’t Work for Workers

The trade deal’s soft stance on labor protections is what makes it so attractive to both business and governments.

www.thenation.com

Does the TPP Work for Workers? - CCPA

Analyzing the labour chapter of the TPP Download377.8 KB20 pages This study examines the Trans-Pacific Partnership’s labour chapter and finds it cannot adequately protect, let alone enhance, labour rights across the TPP region, as promised by the Canadian and U.S. governments. This is because...

www.policyalternatives.ca

Why support the TPP when it will let foreign corporations take our democracies to court? | Melissa Parke

Melissa Parke: If a corporation’s profits or operations will be restricted by a country’s laws or the decisions of its courts, under the TPP it will be able to sue

www.theguardian.com

Unions oppose free trade deal 20 years after losing battle to stop Nafta

Union leaders and other critics say a proposed pact would prompt US companies to funnel manufacturing jobs to lower-wage countries

www.theguardian.com

10 Ways the TPP Would Hurt U.S. Working Families

1. Call center and other service sector jobs would be at risk. The TPP will include both investment rules (making it safer to invest overseas) and service sector rules (guaranteeing access for cross border services here) that will further promote the off shoring of jobs in call centers, computer...

cwa-union.org

More Power to Corporations to Attack Nations - Public Citizen

The Trans-Pacific Partnership: Empowering Corporations to Attack Nations Incentivizing Corporations to Outsource Our Jobs and Attack Our Laws [This page is about the ISDS threat posed by the now-defunct TPP. See more current analysis of ISDS here.]

www.citizen.org

 

[Kushinator]

Yeah.....we all love Chinese Drywall.

Another non-response. Why bother? You're not up to the task of discussing the topic.

 

[Kushinator]

The TPP was an overwhelmingly pro-corporate, anti-labour disaster at the time of its demise; it needs serious revision and rework before it is worth drafting:

Unfortunately, Chinese trade policy was never aimed at labor or small-business. Intellectual property theft is a corporate issue, and the TPP required members play by a set of rules. Was it perfect? Nope! Nothing's going to appease all sides, but the TPP was a step in the right direction.

 

[Manc Skipper]

I'll bet Biden offered to pay for it with our tax dollars. maybe we could borrow the money from China?

No worries. Johnson is too busy asset-stripping the country with his friends, in a comprehensive manner Trump would envy.

 

[Mycroft]

Then you go on to say, out of one side of your mouth, that an ”economic cold war” is a bad idea.

In the next paragraph you sing the praises of your wannabe fuhrer for trying to start an economic cold war.

Trump didn't engage in a cold war with China. He was directly attacking China. It was an economic HOT war.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Biden says he suggested to UK's Johnson a plan to rival China's Belt and Road

U.S. President Joe Biden said he suggested to British Prime Minister Boris Johnson in a phone call on Friday that democratic countries should have an infrastructure plan to rival China's Belt and Road initiative.

www.reuters.com

Fantastic. Taking the clear and present danger China poses seriously is long overdue, particularly with sober and cogent ideas that recognizes the indispensable necessity of a unified front against the present day's greatest foe to freedom and democracy world wide.

I'm certainly no Biden fan, but he's certainly elevated himself in my eyes with these thus far impressive overtures and I am hopeful that the rest of the world joins him in working to contain and diffuse the grave menace of this modern day Evil Empire.

Never going to happen

I can not say about the UK, but the US needs infrastructure spending in the US that it can get done because of taxes and opposition to spending. It certainly wont have the money to spend hundreds of billions on infrastructure spending in foreign countries

Can you imagine the outrage when Americans find out that the US government is building a high speed rail line in Pakistan, when Americans do not want to build one in the US Or that a new port will be built in Sri Lanka, when the one in Portland is old and needs updating

 

[Litwin]

Biden says he suggested to UK's Johnson a plan to rival China's Belt and Road

U.S. President Joe Biden said he suggested to British Prime Minister Boris Johnson in a phone call on Friday that democratic countries should have an infrastructure plan to rival China's Belt and Road initiative.

www.reuters.com

Fantastic. Taking the clear and present danger China poses seriously is long overdue, particularly with sober and cogent ideas that recognizes the indispensable necessity of a unified front against the present day's greatest foe to freedom and democracy world wide.

I'm certainly no Biden fan, but he's certainly elevated himself in my eyes with these thus far impressive overtures and I am hopeful that the rest of the world joins him in working to contain and diffuse the grave menace of this modern day Evil Empire.

the hans are cowards , we must take down Moscow empire first, and Mr Biden knows it

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[Kushinator]

Only thing I see is us going broke because we forgot to mind our own business long ago.

The U.S. won't go broke. We are the innovation engine for the world, and nothing that China has done in the past 40 years is going to change that.

 

[Waddy]

No worries. Johnson is too busy asset-stripping the country with his friends, in a comprehensive manner Trump would envy.

does Britian have any assets left? I thought the liberals gave away most of their assets long ago.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

let me guess how this thread is going to go:

BIDEN has dementia, he is senile, he is a puppet of the left, he doesn't know shit, he is the worst President ever, he is going to be taken to the cleaners by China, blah blah blah.

let me guess who will make those arguments:

might it be those who still are crying over Trump's loss? those who still think the election was stolen? those who think that polls are fake when they say Biden currently is enjoying higher popularity than Trump ever did?

not hard to figure out that sort, but they need an outlet to vent their frustration, so threads like this gives them that outlet.

so when they start in on Biden we just remember who we are dealing with and give them some slack, after all, they are still in grievance.

 

[TomFitz]

Kudlow spoke on China almost every day, and you come up with this rally crap?

Did you have a little wax build up back then?

Kudlow is an idiot.

Now answer the question.

Having a television pundit feed red meat to flat earthers on Fox noise is not policy. (although the Trump talk radio crown doesn’t know the difference or care. )

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

does Britian have any assets left? I thought the liberals gave away most of their assets long ago.

The Conservative party is the one that sold most state assets, and I would not call Blair a liberal

 

[Fledermaus]

the hans are cowards , we must take down Moscow empire first, and Mr Biden knows it

The Han are a people. Why the racist comments?

And are you talking about taking down RUSSIA!

 

[Surrealistik]

Never going to happen

I can not say about the UK, but the US needs infrastructure spending in the US that it can get done because of taxes and opposition to spending. It certainly wont have the money to spend hundreds of billions on infrastructure spending in foreign countries

Can you imagine the outrage when Americans find out that the US government is building a high speed rail line in Pakistan, when Americans do not want to build one in the US Or that a new port will be built in Sri Lanka, when the one in Portland is old and needs updating

While I don't disagree that the US also needs to focus on its own backyard as its current infrastructure is laughably outmoded, the idea is that it's a collective partnership with other nations so the cost for these initiatives will be shared, and as with the Chinese, it involves financing and local partnerships, not mere giveaways.

Also, Americans seemed to be fine with the absolute boondoggle of the F-35 program which cost about as much as the Belt and Road Initiative in its entirety while not even coming close to paying its dividends.

 

[Surrealistik]

Unfortunately, Chinese trade policy was never aimed at labor or small-business. Intellectual property theft is a corporate issue, and the TPP required members play by a set of rules. Was it perfect? Nope! Nothing's going to appease all sides, but the TPP was a step in the right direction.

I mean, 'not perfect' is a truly glaring understatement. Put another way, the TPP was far enough from perfection that I could not have countenanced putting it into effect; IP theft being a corporate issue or not, it most definitely needs to feature a more balanced approach to satisfying all the stakeholders involved.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

While I don't disagree that the US also needs to focus on its own backyard as its current infrastructure is laughably outmoded, the idea is that it's a collective partnership with other nations so the cost for these initiatives will be shared, and as with the Chinese, it involves financing and local partnerships, not mere giveaways.

Also, Americans seemed to be fine with the absolute boondoggle of the F-35 program which cost about as much as the Belt and Road Initiative in its entirety while not even coming close to paying its dividends.

F35 involved a lot of government money being used to bribe congress to support it because of domestic jobs in the US being located in all but 2 states.

A US belt and roads wI'll not create many US jobs and won't go over politically very well as most wI'll think it is foreign aid rather than building economies