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Biden says efforts to restrict transgender rights ‘close to sinful’

NuffSaid said:
I can't imagine being Barron. His classmates going "Your dad had sex with a porn star? Woah! I thought Republicans were against porn?"
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Yup, and no doubt more than a few of them have shown him his mother's porn shots by now. My 3 sons saw them years ago, when Trump was running.

Apparently I was supposed to prevent them from seeing nudity, or something. Of course, everyone in the world has seen the very naked Mrs. Trump. But that's different, you know. Drag queens!
 
NuffSaid said:
I can't imagine being Barron. His classmates going "Your dad had sex with a porn star? Woah! I thought Republicans were against porn?"
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I feel for the guy... it isn't his fault that he got born into that much toxicity.

I hope that as he ages he can break that cycle.
 
Nomad4Ever said:
jamanetwork.com

Mental Health Outcomes in Transgender and Nonbinary Youths Receiving Gender-Affirming Care

This cohort study investigates whether gender-affirming care is associated with decreased depression, anxiety, and suicidality among transgender and nonbinary youths.
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Transgender people, especially minors, have a vastly higher suicide rate than general population in the absence of gender affirming care. Gender affirming care is quite literally life saving medical treatment. The age of medical consent is as low as 14 in many states.
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Trans treatment is not treatment for suicidal ideation
 
Bucky said:
Did you click on the video?
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Yes. And I did not see anyone Naked. It was not to my taste. I would not bring my kid to a show like that. But I still believe that's MY DECESION alone. I wouldn't even go to a show like that by myself. But that's just me.
 
tres borrachos said:
Whatever happened to the parents' responsibility for their children? Or are we back to "It takes a village", Mrs. Clinton?

You do know that it isn't your business, right? If parents and the medical experts make decisions that impact their children and their patients, who are you to challenge them?
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You wouldn't support parents getting their kid conversion therapy

I wouldn't support parents getting their kid trans medical treatment
 
vegas giants said:
Trans treatment is not treatment for suicidal ideation
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After adjustment for temporal trends and potential confounders, we observed 60% lower odds of depression (adjusted odds ratio [aOR], 0.40; 95% CI, 0.17-0.95) and 73% lower odds of suicidality (aOR, 0.27; 95% CI, 0.11-0.65) among youths who had initiated PBs or GAHs compared with youths who had not.
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Idk, seems to make a pretty big difference to me. Those aren't like, small numbers. This isn't a 5-15% decrease in suicidal ideation. That's probably a bigger decrease than you'd see from prescription anti-depressants lol.
 
JRTurner said:
You mean like DeSantis trying to outlaw anything transgender, drag shows, and LGBTQ people? That kind of extremist behavior?

The aren't.

Debatable.

Uh--no. They're only MSM at the moment because of unconstitutional laws targeting them--and the accompanying hate crimes they're suffering.

Sure--but that's not really our business, is it?

I think Biden is right. The way these CHILDREN are being treated is sinfully cruel.
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I take no issue with the drag shows but these medical treatments on children must stop
 
Nomad4Ever said:
jamanetwork.com

Mental Health Outcomes in Transgender and Nonbinary Youths Receiving Gender-Affirming Care

This cohort study investigates whether gender-affirming care is associated with decreased depression, anxiety, and suicidality among transgender and nonbinary youths.
jamanetwork.com jamanetwork.com

Transgender people, especially minors, have a vastly higher suicide rate than general population in the absence of gender affirming care. Gender affirming care is quite literally life saving medical treatment. The age of medical consent is as low as 14 in many states.
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The usual anti-trans crowd always parade around the "mutilation" and "chemical castration" stuff, as if that's what gender affirming care for children entails.

I think it's because they're being inherently dishonest about the matter, since they are anti-trans to begin with. This care revolves around puberty blockers, which are reversible.
 
vegas giants said:
You wouldn't support parents getting their kid conversion therapy

I wouldn't support parents getting their kid trans medical treatment
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Thanks for letting me know what I would and wouldn't support. Anything else you want to share with me so I know what I support and don't support?
 
Nomad4Ever said:
Idk, seems to make a pretty big difference to me. Those aren't like, small numbers. This isn't a 5-15% decrease in suicidal ideation. That's probably a bigger decrease than you'd see from prescription anti-depressants lol.
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Frankly the science is in its infancy


How many go on to commit suicide when they realize what was done to them was a mistake?


We know almost nothing about the detransitioners
 
NuffSaid said:
Remember when Michelle Obama was advocating schools having more healthy snacks and the right threw a massive conniption fit screaming "Do not tell me how to raise my kids!"?
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Ayep. Remember when Hillary Clinton said "It takes a village to raise a child", and the right went berserk?
 
TheGoverness said:
The usual anti-trans crowd always parade around the "mutilation" and "chemical castration" stuff, as if that's what gender affirming care for children entails.

I think it's because they're being inherently dishonest about the matter, since they are anti-trans to begin with. This care revolves around puberty blockers, which are reversible.
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They are not reversible according to the NHS. Finland, Sweden and Norway have also stopped using them on kids
 
vegas giants said:
I take no issue with the drag shows but these medical treatments on children must stop
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I don't think we have the medical degrees to make that call. I see it as a case-by-case basis, as do they. It's like a miniscule number of kids to begin with, and then even a smaller number who actually continue onward through treatment to surgical treatment in adulthood. Just let them be--they're well taken care of by loving people and professionals who know how to do their jobs.
 
JRTurner said:
I don't think we have the medical degrees to make that call. I see it as a case-by-case basis, as do they. It's like a miniscule number of kids to begin with, and then even a smaller number who actually continue onward through treatment to surgical treatment in adulthood. Just let them be--they're well taken care of by loving people and professionals who know how to do their jobs.
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Nope. I don't support medical experimentation on kids. ..because it's just a few kids
 
vegas giants said:
How many go on to commit suicide when they realize what was done to them was a mistake?
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Considering as far as we can tell the rate of detransition is less than 1%, and there is no data on what % of that 1% commit suicide after but I doubt most of them do, we can safely say less than 0.1% I think.

A total of 27 studies, pooling 7928 transgender patients who underwent any type of GAS (gender-affirmation surgeries), were included. The pooled prevalence of regret after GAS was 1% (95% CI <1%–2%).
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Regret after Gender-affirmation Surgery: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis of Prevalence - PMC

Supplemental Digital Content is available in the text.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
Nomad4Ever said:
Considering as far as we can tell the rate of detransition is less than 1%, and there is no data on what % of that 1% commit suicide after but I doubt most of them do, we can safely say less than 0.1% I think.


Regret after Gender-affirmation Surgery: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis of Prevalence - PMC

Supplemental Digital Content is available in the text.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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A single study? My god I wouldn't take an aspirin based on a single study. I saw a study where it was 13.1%. The numbers are all over the place
 
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