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Biden preemptively bollixes any Trump attempt to reestablish Schedule F

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Biden Administration Finalizes Rule Preventing Federal Employees from Being Fired | National Review

Trump issued an executive order towards the end of his administration creating, ‘Schedule F,’ an employment category that would make it easier to fire federal employees.
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The new rule protects members of the civil service from being recategorized into a non-protected job category. While the President maintains the right to recategorize political appointees at will, civil servants are protected.

By the time that Trump, if reelected, could get this rule rolled back, time would likely run out on him before he could enact another Schedule F.
 
Safiel said:
www.nationalreview.com

Biden Administration Finalizes Rule Preventing Federal Employees from Being Fired | National Review

Trump issued an executive order towards the end of his administration creating, ‘Schedule F,’ an employment category that would make it easier to fire federal employees.
www.nationalreview.com www.nationalreview.com

The new rule protects members of the civil service from being recategorized into a non-protected job category. While the President maintains the right to recategorize political appointees at will, civil servants are protected.

By the time that Trump, if reelected, could get this rule rolled back, time would likely run out on him before he could enact another Schedule F.
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Trump just needs to fire the workers anyway and have loyalists, maybe border patrol officers, physically lock them out of their government offices and seize any government computers and refuse to return them until the Supreme Court has ruled on their case
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Trump just needs to fire the workers anyway and have loyalists, maybe border patrol officers, physically lock them out of their government offices and seize any government computers and refuse to return them until the Supreme Court has ruled on their case
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So.......authoritarianism?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Trump just needs to fire the workers anyway and have loyalists, maybe border patrol officers, physically lock them out of their government offices and seize any government computers and refuse to return them until the Supreme Court has ruled on their case
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NolanVoyd said:
So.......authoritarianism?
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He's always been very open about being a simp for fascism.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Constitutionalism
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You said "fire them anyway", have the border patrol(?) Lock them out, etc.

That would be illegal, there are rules. That would be authoritarian not constitutional. The president has a duty to see that the laws, and rules are executed, violating those rules/laws would be an unconstitutional act on the part of the president.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Trump just needs to fire the workers anyway and have loyalists, maybe border patrol officers, physically lock them out of their government offices and seize any government computers and refuse to return them until the Supreme Court has ruled on their case
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Reads like an overwrought parody of Trumpist lunacy, until you look at the source.
 
Safiel said:
www.nationalreview.com

Biden Administration Finalizes Rule Preventing Federal Employees from Being Fired | National Review

Trump issued an executive order towards the end of his administration creating, ‘Schedule F,’ an employment category that would make it easier to fire federal employees.
www.nationalreview.com www.nationalreview.com

The new rule protects members of the civil service from being recategorized into a non-protected job category. While the President maintains the right to recategorize political appointees at will, civil servants are protected.

By the time that Trump, if reelected, could get this rule rolled back, time would likely run out on him before he could enact another Schedule F.
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Personally I am OK with the premise of making Federal Employment clean and free of political patronage-interference. Especially egregious is the rhetoric that has emanated from Trump regarding his past actions on this and his plans being verbalized of his intent should he be (GOD FORBID) reelected.

That said, from personal first hand knowledge, it is, in my considered opinion, WAY TOO HARD to fire-remove poor and incompetent and unfit.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Trump just needs to fire the workers anyway and have loyalists, maybe border patrol officers, physically lock them out of their government offices and seize any government computers and refuse to return them until the Supreme Court has ruled on their case
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We don't need border patrol officers - those "loyalists" - at the border?

Good to know you believe the right-wing hype about a "crisis at the border" is hokum.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Trump just needs to fire the workers anyway and have loyalists, maybe border patrol officers, physically lock them out of their government offices and seize any government computers and refuse to return them until the Supreme Court has ruled on their case
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Just for the first day, right?
 
samiam5211 said:
I read the post and thought, "oh Bitterpill, you sneaky joker", then I realized it was posted by someone who probably meant it.
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It is damned near impossible to out-crazy crazy Trumpists. I forget how many times I've had to tell some responder to my post that I wasn't serious but was parodying Trumpist insanity.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Trump just needs to fire the workers anyway and have loyalists, maybe border patrol officers, physically lock them out of their government offices and seize any government computers and refuse to return them until the Supreme Court has ruled on their case
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LOL, you really love dictators.
 
NolanVoyd said:
You said "fire them anyway", have the border patrol(?) Lock them out, etc.

That would be illegal, there are rules. That would be authoritarian not constitutional. The president has a duty to see that the laws, and rules are executed, violating those rules/laws would be an unconstitutional act on the part of the president.
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The constitution does not allow the executive branch to have officers superior in authority to the president
 
EMNofSeattle said:
The constitution does not allow the executive branch to have officers superior in authority to the president
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That doesn't even make sense.

Laws protecting civil servents do not make them "superior in authority to the president", and such laws are, in fact, constitutional.

So what the hell are you talking about?

Where do you get this stuff?

Yiu seem to think the president should be a dictator.

You really should go to your local community College and take a civics class......learn about your country.
 
What the Biden pukes put into effect can be removed.

It doesn't matter if the Biden OPM makes a new rule. The Trump OPM can remove that rule.
 
Mycroft said:
What the Biden pukes put into effect can be removed.

It doesn't matter if the Biden OPM makes a new rule. The Trump OPM can remove that rule.
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After a rule making process that would last more than three years at minimum. Then separate rule making to reestablish Schedule F. Meaning by the time Trump could actually reestablish Schedule F, his four year term would be mostly exhausted.

But beyond that, very strong grounds for courts to uphold the new rules and block Trump from overturning them. The rules comport very nicely with the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978. Court challenges against Trump changes would likely be successful and in any event would run the clock out on Trump.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Trump just needs to fire the workers anyway and have loyalists, maybe border patrol officers, physically lock them out of their government offices and seize any government computers and refuse to return them until the Supreme Court has ruled on their case
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Why don't you just defect to a country you would actually fit in at like Russia, Iran, or maybe North Korea?
 
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