"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."
Biden: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard
Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard
That's if the other ten or so anti-gun bills don't pass obama will make an executive order...
Just a note, this would have been called "conspiracy theory" just a year ago.
Just a note, this would have been called "conspiracy theory" just a year ago.
Biden: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard
Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard
That's if the other ten or so anti-gun bills don't pass obama will make an executive order...
Just a note, this would have been called "conspiracy theory" just a year ago.
Now that the Conservatives can dance around a mass murder and declare I told you Obama will do some anti-'gun' actions i guess some are taking smug satisfaction.
I don't seem to recall a great deal of calls to join the peacekeepers, protect the Constitution or some such when BushII worked his magic with executive orders and his signings basically exempting him from the bills he signed.
But this is now, I'd say lets wait until we see the whites of their eyes before going off half cocked.
Last term several senators declared much the same thing after a 'special' meeting with the President.
I think any 'gun-nut' who thinks nothing will be done isn't in this reality, there are Republican politicians calling for restrictions on some sales and some magazines.
People want something done.
But we shall see what actually is done.
That was my first thought.
My second was "well, here we go; this is the point at which the decent citizenry begins to actively disobey the law"
My third thought was "nah, this will never pass constitutional muster".
Now I"m thinking, maybe I should go join the oath keepers....
A year ago this would have been a conspiracy theory since there was no evidence to support it. No one cvould have predicted the mass outcry by the public for something like this. Being right one time in a million is not something to take pride in.
I agree with you. But it is a clear example of "never let a good crisis go to waste," as it is my understanding that automatic weapons didn't even play a part in the incident that's led us here.
But this is now, I'd say lets wait until we see the whites of their eyes before going off half cocked.
Obama had better be mighty careful with that... there's a lot of us who will flat refuse to obey an Executive Order than violates the Constitution.
Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping he doesn't do something ill-considered that provokes something drastic... but that EO could easily create tens of thousands of Tim McVeigh's ready to declare armed revolt.
I very very sincerely hope it does not come to that, but I will admit I'm beginning to worry.
So you support wasting crisises? Me, I prefer to learn from them, make changes needed, and improve.
Jumping to conclusions already? Your experience in constitutional law is what?
My training in Constitutional law was quite modest... we had a class on it at the Police Academy. What was yours?
Interesting, so not only are you jumping to conclusions, you are unqualified to judge based on the law itself. Well done!
I guess those of the Founders who were not lawyers were unqualified to judge when their rights were being trampled too, huh? :roll:
You didn't answer my question.
I'd also hesitate to label the current political and social climate as "mass hysteria."I'd prefer to avoid using legislation, let alone the dubious mechanism of Executive Orders, to make any major changes in our laws and traditions during a time of mass hysteria.
They are not the ones threatening to break the law if they don't like it, you are.
I'd also hesitate to label the current political and social climate as "mass hysteria."
Nice dodge, but no cigar. The founders committed treason against Britain, according to the existing laws in place at the time.
You still haven't answered my question. I admitted honestly that my formal training in Constitutional law was limited to one class. What was yours?
So you support wasting crisises? Me, I prefer to learn from them, make changes needed, and improve.
Yes, but we are not talking about British law are we?
Have I made any claims about constitutionality? That was you...
Considering that a lot of "gun enthusiasts" tend to think that anything that doesn't conform to their very strict, limited interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, I suspect that many of you will decide he violated the Constitution even if he didn't.Obama had better be mighty careful with that... there's a lot of us who will flat refuse to obey an Executive Order than violates the Constitution.
Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping he doesn't do something ill-considered that provokes something drastic... but that EO could easily create tens of thousands of Tim McVeigh's ready to declare armed revolt.
I very very sincerely hope it does not come to that, but I will admit I'm beginning to worry.
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