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Biden broke his campaign promise; now he will pay

Helping people with college debt is a positive and helpful goal. Building Derpwall was the negative goal of a white nationalist xenophobic bigot who unfortunately achieved high office.

The government cannot continue to baby Americans.

People that invested in ftx or nfts are not getting backstopped by the government. They made a bad investment and lost money.

If people took student loans for a worthless college degree, they made a bad investment. Why do you insist rewarding people for taking bad risk?

Unless you are arguing the government engaged in fraud or deception by taking on these unethical loans...

Oh wait...
 
You think the fact that a republican leaning SCOTUS with new Trump picks shooting down Biden's student debt relief program will hurt Biden?

No, the left will use this along with the other rulings today as well as Roe against the right in the election.

Here is what makes you disingenuous.

You act like the scotus ruling is a suprise.

It was a long shot.

You really thought alito, thomas, comey, brett, would have sided with Biden?

That makes you gullible.
 
The government cannot continue to baby Americans.

People that invested in ftx or nfts are not getting backstopped by the government. They made a bad investment and lost money.

If people took student loans for a worthless college degree, they made a bad investment. Why do you insist rewarding people for taking bad risk?

Unless you are arguing the government engaged in fraud or deception by taking on these unethical loans...

Oh wait...
We need a highly educated population in order to be competitive in the 21st century global economy. As a side benefit, college educated people are less likely to be duped by grifting orange conmen.
 
We need a highly educated population in order to be competitive in the 21st century global economy. As a side benefit, college educated people are less likely to be duped by grifting orange conmen.

Are you saying the people that took these student loans were duped?
 
We need a highly educated population in order to be competitive in the 21st century global economy. As a side benefit, college educated people are less likely to be duped by grifting orange conmen.

Or it can create more con men loke SBF, the Theranos Fraud, or the woman that frauded Chase Bank.
 
Or it can create more con men loke SBF, the Theranos Fraud, or the woman that frauded Chase Bank.
Corporate psychopaths who rise to the 0.1% are not an argument against education. A significant percentage of voters getting long term duped by a grifting psychopath, however, is an argument for making education more accessible.
 
Biden's continued false hope is just keeping young people from doing what's right which is paying off their debt and moving on with their lives. That's part of growing up,
 
Biden's continued false hope is just keeping young people from doing what's right which is paying off their debt and moving on with their lives. That's part of growing up,

This is nothing more than reich-wing nonsense.
 

Biden is guilty of spreading false hope. Biden promised forty million borrowers he would wipe out $430 billion in student loans. He broke his promise.

How many of the Bernie Bros or Senator Karen's supporters were swayed by his word and voted for him? The damage will be immense as soon we will find out a lot of these borrowers have already earmarked the money they had budgeted towards repaying their loan towards other obligations like housing, food, etc.

This is a betrayal from Biden towards the young voters that believed Biden's sales pitch, which turned out to be a giant lie.

"BUT BUT BUT... THE SUPREME COURT."

Should the Biden administration have known his forgiveness plan had no chance of passing through the Supreme Court? Either Biden broke his promise or was naive in thinking his hail merry was going through. No Republicans promised to support this silly plan. In fact, they were public in opposing and fighting it.

Biden, after getting elected, already publically admitted he didn't have the power to eliminate student loans:



"I don't think I have the authority" to cancel $50,000 per borrower.

Nancy Pelosi:

“The president can’t do it,” Pelosi said, at a press briefing. “That’s not even a discussion.”


The president created the ultimate bait-and-switch campaign. Now borrowers will be harmed due to Biden's dangerous lie.

So you are saying that because Biden was stopped by the Supreme Court to fulfill one of his promises, that the "damage will be immense", right?

One (1) broken promise = immense damage

Then explain this:
Trump campaign promises broken = 55

How much damage did Trump suffer with that many broken promises? Is he not up for being nominated for president again in 2024?
 
Biden's continued false hope is just keeping young people from doing what's right which is paying off their debt and moving on with their lives. That's part of growing up,

The sad thing is a lot of people that were conned by Biden were women and minorities.

The logic that these groups will rally around a president with sagging poll numbers is ridiculous.

They have no where to go as Bernie and Elizabeth Warren are now corporate lackeys.
 
The sad thing is a lot of people that were conned by Biden were women and minorities.
This is not accurate.

The logic that these groups will rally around a president with sagging poll numbers is ridiculous.

They have no where to go as Biden and Elizabeth Warren are now corporate lackeys.

You say this as if the big business-owned GQP lunatics were not corporate lackies.
 
I mean if the people who were counting on this to happen seriously believe this is Biden's fault, they might want to demand a refund from the university itself as they failed to educate. Any reasonable adult knows what a pledge is and what it isn't. That being said, Biden is not helping his cause when he says that he doesn't want to pack the court because he's afraid it would politicize it. FFS, it's not politicized now? It's been subjected to Alito's own personal jihad.
 
We don't know who will pay for this, Biden or the GOP.
My guess is that the recent SCOTUS decisions will reflect badly on Republicans.
Polls I have seen generally are heavily in favor of ending affirmative action in college admissions and against mass student loan forgiveness. This is perhaps why they can’t democratically enact it by law.
 
The sad thing is a lot of people that were conned by Biden were women and minorities.
Yeah you know, the not very bright folk......women and minorities.
 
So you are saying that because Biden was stopped by the Supreme Court to fulfill one of his promises, that the "damage will be immense", right?

One (1) broken promise = immense damage

Then explain this:
Trump campaign promises broken = 55

How much damage did Trump suffer with that many broken promises? Is he not up for being nominated for president again in 2024?

People like you keep saying this:

The Supreme Court stopped Biden.

Once again, shouldn't the Biden administration know this would have happened? Leaders in his party said he was taking the wrong course of action.

Joe Biden was the leader of the Judiciary Committee who didn't call any corroborating witnesses of other women that wanted to testify against Clarence Thomas.


In recent interviews, Ms. Hill and others involved in the confirmation fight portrayed Mr. Biden’s handling of the hearing as at best inept and at worst deeply insensitive. They fault his refusal to seriously investigate her accusations and take public testimony from other potential witnesses who said the future justice had acted inappropriately with them. Justice Thomas has denied any inappropriate behavior.

One of those potential witnesses, Sukari Hardnett, a lawyer in Silver Spring, Md., said in an interview that she decided to come forward while watching the hearing when she “saw what they were doing to Anita Hill and how they were literally trying to trash her.” Ms. Hardnett wrote a letter detailing her own experiences and submitted it to the committee through the dean of her law school, expecting to be called to testify. But she said she was not.

Do you really think Joe Biden thought Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch, Samuel Alito, and John Roberts would side with him?
 
Nancy is welcome to her opinion. She did not however state whether it was a political opinion or a legal opinion. I think events have born out her political opinion as the SC is now thanks to its 6 radical right Catholic Justices an entirely politicized outfit

"As then-Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi explained: ‘People think that the President of the United States has the power for debt forgiveness. He does not,’" Roberts quoted Pelosi’s July 28, 2021, press conference. "‘He can postpone. He can delay. But he does not have that power. That has to be an act of Congress.’"
 
Its the SC that should have simply read the plain text of the law. But that shit the plain text of law does not matter to the radical right extremist 6 pack of the Roberts SC.

The Supreme Court is, unfortunately, now politicized. The decision should have been 9-0 or 8-1.

We indeed have a few radical judges on the bench.
 
I dunno. I wonder how much support Biden would lose for not fulfilling a campaign promise.

It didn't hurt Trump any. His backers still back him loud and proud. I suspect the same will hold true for Biden.
 
"As then-Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi explained: ‘People think that the President of the United States has the power for debt forgiveness. He does not,’" Roberts quoted Pelosi’s July 28, 2021, press conference. "‘He can postpone. He can delay. But he does not have that power. That has to be an act of Congress.’"
Runs in my mind something like that happened when Trump tried to divert funds from
defense programs to his wall. Yes the wall, a mega broken promise.
 
Runs in my mind something like that happened when Trump tried to divert funds from
defense programs to his wall. Yes the wall, a mega broken promise.
But..but...but.....

Benghazi! Hunter's laptop!
 
The people who will not be getting there loans partially forgiven will not blame Biden . They will blame the GOP and the SC.
That's correct. The promise Biden made during his campaign was that he would do everything he could to provide student debt relief. He also acknowledged that he was quite sure there would be a lot of push back and likely legal battles.
 
That's correct. The promise Biden made during his campaign was that he would do everything he could to provide student debt relief. He also acknowledged that he was quite sure there would be a lot of push back and likely legal battles.

🙅‍♀️

That's not what Biden said.

Biden said, "I am going to wipe out a lot of your student debt."

The revisionist history going on from something that happened very recently is embarrassing.
 
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