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Why...?
Because **** hillary..
Why...?
Because **** hillary..
Okay; why do you think then that Sanders is running as a Democrat?
For the money. He might have had a chance at the Presidency as a Democrat.
The reality is, Clinton would make a better Republican than Trump does.
Poll Results said:Endorse Hillary Clinton and rally support for her
5 27.78%
d0gbreath, EnigmaO01, iguanaman, Phys251, Van Basten
It's obvious Bernie will not get the Democrat nomination. My question is mainly geared to Bernie supporters and what they'd like to see him do after the convention.
Jill Stein has publicly asked Bernie to be her VP candidate several times in a bid to "keep the revolution going." Both of their political philosophies seem nearly identical.
I believe back in July the Dems promised to support the eventual nominee. Should Bernie hold to that and formally endorse and support Hillary Clinton for the presidency? Some argue Bernie was cheated by the Democrats which would make that past agreement null and void.
Should Bernie just retire? Or should he still continue to run as a presidential candidate and not as someone's VP?
If you chose other please give your opinion.
What Bernie should do obviously depends.
If he can negotiate with Hillary to get some meaningful concessions and representation for his movement, he and his supporters should get behind her.
If not, he should direct them to Jill Stein.
Also the bolded aren't Bernie supporters and never have been; the latter three are notorious pro-Hillary partisans; the former straight up hates the man.
Yeah, it's clear that people who aren't Bernie supporters are voting in this poll. Not surprising that pro-Hillary dp members would be actively interested in falsifying polls. Isn't that what the Hillary for Victory campaign is all about? Lie, deceive and shill away.
After some thought:
I would agree he should back Shillary if she compromises with him in meaningful ways, first and foremost finance reform.
Since I feel that is unlikely..... especially if the attitude of her most faithful is any indicator, he should explore his options. First and foremost are the 3rd party elements in play. Stein and the greens, Johnson and the libertarians, and the ever present "Others". If a 3rd party is ever going to win or even just make a respectable showing, the various elements need find common ground to stand on together. I don't know what the platform would be exactly, or what the ticket would look like, but if Berners and Greens and Libertarians and a decent chunk of the Others got behind the same candidate...well, a lot of us here at DP would like to see how that race played out, me included. Do those ideologies conflict too much? Good question, it depends on the issues I guess. But none of those groups are being represented this election. That ....could be opportunity knocking.
Bernie has stated he does not want to be a spoiler candidate. He said he would do what it takes to stop Trump. He did not explicitly say he would back her majesty. If he could stop Trump without doing so, I think he would jump at the chance.
If a system that is entrenched into being a 2 party system is ever going to break the chains that bind it, I imagine "What it would take" would look a lot like this election cycle. After this, expect more strings to be tied to the system, that establishments can pull if the winds ever turn against them again. This scenario, as unlikely as it was in the first place, will be far more unlikely to arise again. Not saying 3rd parties will never have a chance, but this is a unique opportunity that offers an unusually high chance at success. 2 Horribly disliked candidates, one nominated in protest, one levering her way in via all sorts of illegitimate help. So many people want another option.
After some thought:
I would agree he should back Shillary if she compromises with him in meaningful ways, first and foremost finance reform.
Since I feel that is unlikely..... especially if the attitude of her most faithful is any indicator, he should explore his options. First and foremost are the 3rd party elements in play. Stein and the greens, Johnson and the libertarians, and the ever present "Others". If a 3rd party is ever going to win or even just make a respectable showing, the various elements need find common ground to stand on together. I don't know what the platform would be exactly, or what the ticket would look like, but if Berners and Greens and Libertarians and a decent chunk of the Others got behind the same candidate...well, a lot of us here at DP would like to see how that race played out, me included. Do those ideologies conflict too much? Good question, it depends on the issues I guess. But none of those groups are being represented this election. That ....could be opportunity knocking.
Bernie has stated he does not want to be a spoiler candidate. He said he would do what it takes to stop Trump. He did not explicitly say he would back her majesty. If he could stop Trump without doing so, I think he would jump at the chance.
If a system that is entrenched into being a 2 party system is ever going to break the chains that bind it, I imagine "What it would take" would look a lot like this election cycle. After this, expect more strings to be tied to the system, that establishments can pull if the winds ever turn against them again. This scenario, as unlikely as it was in the first place, will be far more unlikely to arise again. Not saying 3rd parties will never have a chance, but this is a unique opportunity that offers an unusually high chance at success. 2 Horribly disliked candidates, one nominated in protest, one levering her way in via all sorts of illegitimate help. So many people want another option.
Bernie could win running as an Independent. He could win by a landslide.
In my opinion he should drop out, and help Hillary beat Trump.
You can say anything about Hillary, but she has won and he should respect that.
She has won what, exactly?