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Sen. Bernie Sanders on Sunday assailed the planned closure of a hospital in the battleground state of Pennsylvania, saying it demonstrates the failures of the country's greedy health care system.
"The situation in Philadelphia illustrates the entire problem: In a city with one of the highest poverty rates in the country, a major hospital serving low-income communities is on the verge of laying off 2,500 people, abandoning 500 medical residents, and closing its operations thanks to an investment firm looking to make as much money as possible in a corporate fire sale."
The Vermont senator added that he stood in solidarity with the nurses and others who are fighting to keep the hospital "from being destroyed by Joel Freedman and his investment firm" and reiterated his call for "Medicare for All."
One of the challenges of finding savings in health care is that everyone (rightly!) wants to preserve jobs and access to health care services. There's a hospital in Philadelphia that lost $69 million last year providing jobs to thousands and services to tens of thousands. That clearly seems unsustainable but the unions and employees rallied in protest, the state and city officials did what they could to delay its closure, and now presidential candidates are weighing in.
Bernie Sanders decries planned closing of Philadelphia hospital
Using Medicare for All to pump additional money into failing hospitals to preserve jobs and public health infrastructure may or may not be a good idea, but it sure will make finding net savings more difficult.
The once single largest not for profit operator of hospitals in the US was the Salvation Army. They have either closed, sold off or repurposed all their hospitals and are no longer participants in the industry. No entity has replaced them.
Links?
I searched and searched "Salvation Army Hospitals" "did the Salvation Army run hospitals" "former Salvation Army hospitals" and even "Salvation Army hospitals in the USA" and found nothing.
As I understand it Medicare for All has lower payment rates the current plans - how will that help?One of the challenges of finding savings in health care is that everyone (rightly!) wants to preserve jobs and access to health care services. There's a hospital in Philadelphia that lost $69 million last year providing jobs to thousands and services to tens of thousands. That clearly seems unsustainable but the unions and employees rallied in protest, the state and city officials did what they could to delay its closure, and now presidential candidates are weighing in.
Bernie Sanders decries planned closing of Philadelphia hospital
Using Medicare for All to pump additional money into failing hospitals to preserve jobs and public health infrastructure may or may not be a good idea, but it sure will make finding net savings more difficult.
Starting during 1865 by evangelist William Booth and his wife, Catherine, reform methodists in the East End of London to help the poor save their souls, by charitable action, the Booths started with a health clinic for expectant mothers, particularly unmarried mothers. Within a decade they expanded throughout Britain, its colonies, and North America, establishing obstetrics clinics and later obstetrics hospitals.
As written, Sanders M4A bill doesn't "pump money" into unprofitable hospitals. At least, I don't see any provision within it that provides funds for unprofitable hospitalsOne of the challenges of finding savings in health care is that everyone (rightly!) wants to preserve jobs and access to health care services. There's a hospital in Philadelphia that lost $69 million last year providing jobs to thousands and services to tens of thousands. That clearly seems unsustainable but the unions and employees rallied in protest, the state and city officials did what they could to delay its closure, and now presidential candidates are weighing in.
Bernie Sanders decries planned closing of Philadelphia hospital
Using Medicare for All to pump additional money into failing hospitals to preserve jobs and public health infrastructure may or may not be a good idea, but it sure will make finding net savings more difficult.
So, for the most part, back before even modern medical germ theory was universally accepted and "hysteria" was still regarded as a valid female disease to be cured by manipulation. :roll:
You might as well have included a few medieval bloodletting rooms, too :lamo
But I get the point.
PS: Mae West's chest, eh?
I bet he didn't need braces to stand up for that.
Consider the times, the place they started. For impoverished married and unmarried mothers, better some care than none.
Blood letting was Barbers' turf. As you laugh, blood letting is still a recommended therapy for reducing excessive iron in the blood, a rare cause of cardiac infarctions. More common among post menopause women than men, the former less aggressively examined for cardiac issues, suffering thereof.
FDR didn't have to stand, Mae accommodated him by leaning over, giving him a grand view of her magnificent décolletage. Mae lived in an 8 room apartment over a bar she owned on the corner of Jamaica Avenue and Woodhaven Blvd, above a bar she owned. Mae was a smart businesswoman, who invested well among the two story store and apartment above buildings that line that section of Jamaica Avenue, a main commercial thorofare running from downtown Brooklyn, through Queens to the east end of Long Island, renamed Jericho Turnpike, at the Queens Nassau border, a "Quality Road" following old Indian trails. The bar has been restored, a neighborhood watering hole and destination for Mae's fans today. Well decorated with Mae memorabilia, including one of the few photographs of FDR in his wheel chair, with Mae bent over for the citation pinning, and a huge smile on his face, cigarette holder barely hanging from between his lips at a very odd angle.
Mae's life should be an example and a source of learning for today's feminists. She started as a child actress in vaudeville skits, entered the talking film industry as both a performer and investor during her early 40's, launching herself as a national phenomenon, one of our early sex symbols that captured the nation and the world. Using her assets and quick wit to gain a vast following. Her celebrated verbal rivalry with WC Fields immortalized on celluloid. She was self educated, produced six successful Broadway plays, including "Sex" which was shut down by the morality police, reopened after a free speech in art case that was decided by the Supreme Court giving us the term "of redeeming value." In gratitude for her free performances for the men in white at Navy bases, The US Navy named a life vest after her, "The Mae West" which became an almost generic term for life vests. Mae never gave up, posing in Playboy magazine during her late 70's, surrounded by male body builders from the gym she owned on nearby Crossbay Blvd, now a Gold's Gym.
You forgot to mention Richmond Hill, which was where my cousins used to live, and where I spent a significant portion of my childhood every summer until they all moved to Atlantic Beach, Long Island, where the rest of my cousins lived.
Very familiar with Jamaica Avenue and Queens in general.
As written, Sanders M4A bill doesn't "pump money" into unprofitable hospitals. At least, I don't see any provision within it that provides funds for unprofitable hospitals
The reason this hospital is unprofitable is unclear. According to some state legislators, it's due to "fiscal mismanagement. " According to the workers, the new owners bought the hospital and intentionally drove it into the ground because they believe that they can make more money redeveloping the property (I assume for high end housing)
If the hospital is losing money because it provides services for people who are uninsured, then M4A might help prevent similar closures by ensuring that hospitals get paid for the services they provide. However, if hospitals are being closed because investors can make more money using the land they sit on for some other purpose, then I don't see how M4A has anything to do with it
"Medicare for All will not only save hospitals, but it will energize Pennsylvanians to vote and finally defeat Donald Trump," Faiz Shakir, Sanders' campaign manager, told POLITICO. "I think anyone pushing for less than Medicare for All needs to explain how their system would 'cost a hell of a lot less' if it's still going to be making life worse for too many Pennsylvanians."
One of the challenges of finding savings in health care is that everyone (rightly!) wants to preserve jobs and access to health care services. There's a hospital in Philadelphia that lost $69 million last year providing jobs to thousands and services to tens of thousands. That clearly seems unsustainable but the unions and employees rallied in protest, the state and city officials did what they could to delay its closure, and now presidential candidates are weighing in.
Bernie Sanders decries planned closing of Philadelphia hospital
Using Medicare for All to pump additional money into failing hospitals to preserve jobs and public health infrastructure may or may not be a good idea, but it sure will make finding net savings more difficult.
(Freeman is the health system president)The Pennsylvania Association of Staff Nurses and Allied Professionals accused Freedman of having "basically plundered" the hospital, which dates to 1848, and having "driven it into the ground," according to a report.
Pennsylvania Association of Staff Nurses and Allied Professionals - WikipediaUnion organizing from PASNAP was highly successful throughout 2016. In January, PASNAP successfully led unionizing campaigns two major Philadelphia-are hospitals: Delaware County Memorial Hospital (DCMH) and Hahnemann University Hospital, for a total of 1200 organized nurses.[16][17]
From the article:
(Freeman is the health system president)
That's ironic because that union organized nurses and related personnel in 2016, "aggressively" negotiating higher wages, which doubtlessly is one of the major drivers of the hopital's losses.
Pennsylvania Association of Staff Nurses and Allied Professionals - Wikipedia
I suppose an alternate reading is that Medicare for All would use monopsony buying power to break the back of that union and relieve some of the labor costs currently on Freedman's books.
If you wanted to misuse the term. This hospital is obviously not the only employer in this city.
Unless, of course, you are advocating the government also directly take control of hospitals and set the wages for all hospitals in the area.
One of the challenges of finding savings in health care is that everyone (rightly!) wants to preserve jobs and access to health care services. There's a hospital in Philadelphia that lost $69 million last year providing jobs to thousands and services to tens of thousands. That clearly seems unsustainable but the unions and employees rallied in protest, the state and city officials did what they could to delay its closure, and now presidential candidates are weighing in.
Bernie Sanders decries planned closing of Philadelphia hospital
Using Medicare for All to pump additional money into failing hospitals to preserve jobs and public health infrastructure may or may not be a good idea, but it sure will make finding net savings more difficult.
For his part, Sanders said he would introduce legislation to reserve $20 billion in emergency funds to help states buy hospitals in financial distress.
He used the podium to argue that if every American had Medicare, for-profit hospital closures would be less frequent because there would be fewer coverage gaps between the rich and poor. Hospitals in low-income city neighborhoods and rural areas would have more stable cash flow. Sanders has also stressed that with better coverage, patients would be healthier, driving down costly emergency room visits.
Hahnemann Now | Hahnemann Under M4A | Hahnemann under M4A+ | Statewide Avg Now | Statewide Avg Under M4A | Statewide AvgUnder M4A+ | ||
Commercial | $145.0 | $67.5 | $93.9 | $138.3 | $64.3 | $89.6 | |
Medicare | $149.3 | $149.3 | $207.8 | $94.2 | $94.2 | $49.2 | |
Medicaid | $118.7 | $112.0 | $155.9 | $37.5 | $35.4 | $49.2 | |
Uncompensated Pickup | - | $10.7 | $10.7 | - | $4.5 | - | |
Total | $413.0 | $339.4 | $468.4 | $270.0 | $198.4 | $270.0 |
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