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Baltimore Murder Rate Drops as prosecutor vows ‘you will go to prison’

anatta said:
I am from Baltimore and know all that "commumity policing" and junk

Why has crime dropped preciptuously in the last 3 years? It aint the policing it's the Baltimore States Atty targeting violent re-offenders

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I live there. It doesn't change the facts. Targeting offenders doesn't stop the crime to begin with it and it breeds police corruption: We Own This City

Did you know for a lot of these guys, prison is a way of life? Going there isn't that big a deal.
 
He's a gun control advocate.

In July 2023, amid a mass shooting in Baltimore that killed two and injured 28, Bates released a statement expressing his condolences and calling for gun control and policies targeting repeat violent offenders.
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Ivan Bates - Wikipedia

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j brown's body said:
I live there. It doesn't change the facts. Targeting offenders doesn't stop the crime to begin with it and it breeds police corruption: We Own This City

Did you know for a lot of these guys, prison is a way of life? Going there isn't that big a deal.
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Man I watched Homicide Life on the Streets. it was a most excellent look at murders, and yes targeting repeat violent offenders
and putting them in jail does stop their gangbanging.. Corruption is a different animal. it's driven by the drug trade into the police force and elected officials and government as well.. the corner boys run the streets, and the money players run the governemnt and cops
 
anatta said:
Man I watched Homicide Life on the Streets. it was a most excellent look at murders, and yes targeting repeat violent offenders
and putting them in jail does stop their gangbanging.. Corruption is a different animal. it's driven by the drug trade into the police force and elected officials and government as well.. the corner boys run the streets, and the money players run the governemnt and cops
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Oh

My

God
 
anatta said:
hey that's all well and good. and the poor folks stuck in Balto need all the help they can get.
sadly it's a shithole But the crime reduction itself comes from enforcement
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It's often a combination of both. Given the fact we have the highest incarceration rate and population in the world, enforcement alone is clearly not the solution.
 
anatta said:
Man I watched Homicide Life on the Streets. it was a most excellent look at murders, and yes targeting repeat violent offenders
and putting them in jail does stop their gangbanging.. Corruption is a different animal. it's driven by the drug trade into the police force and elected officials and government as well
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You need to see We Own This City.

Like I said, prison doesn't faze a lot of these criminals. Obviously locking them up, as Bates is doing, is important. But to think that that alone is leading to lower crime rates, well, you're kidding yourself.

BTW - Did you used to post on Sunspots?
 
j brown's body said:
You need to see We Own This City.

Like I said, prison doesn't faze a lot of these criminals. Obviously locking them up, as Bates is doing, is important. But to think that that alone is leading to lower crime rates, well, you're kidding yourself.

BTW - Did you used to post on Sunspots?
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It's a bigger political and societal failure.
 
anatta said:
where you been? The perp that killed that Ukrainian woman ( latest ex) on the NY subways had a long criminal record
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Where in his history he killed someone and is walking free just to kill again
 
Allan said:
Baltimore's murder rate has been dropping for three years.

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Do you know what also happened in 2022? Bruen decision. MD became shall issue on CCWs. So, people can now defend themselves in Baltimore and blood isn't running in the streets.
 
anatta said:
2023 is when when Bates took Office
On January 3, 2023, Ivan J. Bates was sworn in as the 26th State's Attorney for Baltimore City.
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An amazing coincidence. ;)
 
Cork said:
I don't understand the point of this thread. Are there places out there where people think they can just commit dangerous crimes free from consequence?
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Yep, those with ‘let’s make a deal’ prosecutors.
 
Allan said:
But mandatory state minimum sentences have been around since 2016. Why is he taking credit for them?
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Perhaps because he’s actually pressing charges (and winning the cases) which mandate using them.
 
JMB1911A1 said:
Do you know what also happened in 2022? Bruen decision. MD became shall issue on CCWs. So, people can now defend themselves in Baltimore and blood isn't running in the streets.
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I believe most of the murders happen between people who are familiar with one another, or are random. Not in the service of crime against a stranger.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Perhaps because he’s actually pressing charges (and winning the cases) which mandate using them.
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But only after the crime, not preventing the crime.

Many criminals see jail as a way of life. Its not much of a deterrent for this crowd. Many already have relatives, neighbors or fellow gang members there.
 
JMB1911A1 said:
Do you know what also happened in 2022? Bruen decision. MD became shall issue on CCWs. So, people can now defend themselves in Baltimore and blood isn't running in the streets.
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But Trump says that blood is running in the streets of Baltimore.
 
JMB1911A1 said:
Do you know what also happened in 2022? Bruen decision. MD became shall issue on CCWs. So, people can now defend themselves in Baltimore and blood isn't running in the streets.
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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Okay cowboy.
That's not what happens in cities.
 
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