Bad Pick

[watsup]

Republican Operatives Are ‘Thrilled’ Harris Picked Walz​

“For several well-placed Republican insiders on Tuesday, the response to Kamala Harris’s choice of Tim Walz as vice-president was one of overwhelming joy. “We are cheering,” said one veteran Republican operative, opining that Harris had picked the weakest-possible running mate on Harris’s short list. A plugged-in Washington insider marveled: “Republicans were in need of a lifeline this week and all so thrilled that Kamala Harris willing to give one to our side in our moment of need.”

The divide among Republicans wasn’t whether Harris made a sub-optimal choice but whether she actively made a bad one selecting the Minnesota governor. On the mild side of that debate, the senior Capitol Hill aide didn’t think Walz did Harris “any harm” — but also noted that the Minnesota governor was not the right pick to get her to 270 electoral votes.

Other GOP operatives saw Walz as presenting a plethora of weaknesses. One longtime Republican strategist described the Minnesota governor as “arguably the most pro-China Democrat not named Hunter Biden” and thought that Walz’s views on the issue would be political kryptonite in the industrial Midwest. “They don’t realize that arguably the most salient issue uniting everything in the Midwest, from fentanyl to deindustrialization to the culture wars, is China, and they just picked biggest China dove possible to be vice-president for Kamala Harris.”

Others thought that Democrats perceived the Minnesota governor as “a white working-class whisperer” and believed that they thought that voters in the Midwest would simply embrace Walz’s persona. However, Republicans universally thought that was a flawed calculation considering that Walz’s liberal record as governor and his embrace by the left wing of the Democratic Party, noting that figures like Bernie Sanders were lobbying for Walz to be Harris’s running mate.

The veteran operative said that he was already hearing dissatisfaction with the pick from wobbly Republicans who were at least open to the idea of voting for a Democrat.

Republican Operatives Are ‘Thrilled’ Tim Walz Is the VP Pick

All-important Pennsylvania is still winnable, they say. “We’re just so grateful to Kamala.”

nymag.com

Not saying that it will cause her to lose, but it very well might. It will, at least, make the race much tighter. She already had the progressive creds, she needed someone more moderate to appeal to more independents. She should have picked the noticeably young Governor of Kentucky, who also has red state creds, so we know that Republicans would vote for him. Bad pick. Better get ready for four more years of Trump.

Go ahead. Surprise me.

 

[Mr Person]

I don't think it would be remotely wise to let "Republican operatives" tell the Democrats who to run, especially with the obvious probability that they are saying the person is bad because they're worried about the person's impact on Trump's chances.

Not saying that it will cause her to lose, but it very well might. It will, at least, make the race much tighter. She already had the progressive creds, she needed someone more moderate to appeal to more independents. She should have picked the noticeably young Governor of Kentucky, who also has red state creds, so we know that Republicans would vote for him. Bad pick. Better get ready for four more years of Trump

Republican operatives said stuff, so you're gonna give up?

These are people who said Harris is useless and Biden should withdraw, then panicked when he did and she surged. And you're gonna listen? What?



EDIT: keep your eye on the ball. First, anyone paying knows positions change during election cycles, and after them. They also know only so much can get through congress. So for example, if Bernie were elected he wouldn't get anything done unless he were a pragmatist in office, and if he was, he'd only get more moderate things done. That's just how things work.

Moreover, Trump is the candidate. I always worry about a population whose attention span sometimes rivals that of a goldfish, but people do seem to remember just how awful Trump was and how dangerous T2 would be. Consider the parade of horribles they'd have to imagine to change their mind because of the VP pick.

A VP does how much compared to the presidency?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Republican Operatives Are ‘Thrilled’ Harris Picked Walz​

“For several well-placed Republican insiders on Tuesday, the response to Kamala Harris’s choice of Tim Walz as vice-president was one of overwhelming joy. “We are cheering,” said one veteran Republican operative, opining that Harris had picked the weakest-possible running mate on Harris’s short list. A plugged-in Washington insider marveled: “Republicans were in need of a lifeline this week and all so thrilled that Kamala Harris willing to give one to our side in our moment of need.”

The divide among Republicans wasn’t whether Harris made a sub-optimal choice but whether she actively made a bad one selecting the Minnesota governor. On the mild side of that debate, the senior Capitol Hill aide didn’t think Walz did Harris “any harm” — but also noted that the Minnesota governor was not the right pick to get her to 270 electoral votes.

Other GOP operatives saw Walz as presenting a plethora of weaknesses. One longtime Republican strategist described the Minnesota governor as “arguably the most pro-China Democrat not named Hunter Biden” and thought that Walz’s views on the issue would be political kryptonite in the industrial Midwest. “They don’t realize that arguably the most salient issue uniting everything in the Midwest, from fentanyl to deindustrialization to the culture wars, is China, and they just picked biggest China dove possible to be vice-president for Kamala Harris.”

Others thought that Democrats perceived the Minnesota governor as “a white working-class whisperer” and believed that they thought that voters in the Midwest would simply embrace Walz’s persona. However, Republicans universally thought that was a flawed calculation considering that Walz’s liberal record as governor and his embrace by the left wing of the Democratic Party, noting that figures like Bernie Sanders were lobbying for Walz to be Harris’s running mate.

The veteran operative said that he was already hearing dissatisfaction with the pick from wobbly Republicans who were at least open to the idea of voting for a Democrat.

Republican Operatives Are ‘Thrilled’ Tim Walz Is the VP Pick

All-important Pennsylvania is still winnable, they say. “We’re just so grateful to Kamala.”

nymag.com

Not saying that it will cause her to lose, but it very well might. It will, at least, make the race much tighter. She already had the progressive creds, she needed someone more moderate to appeal to more independents. She should have picked the noticeably young Governor of Kentucky, who also has red state creds, so we know that Republicans would vote for him. Bad pick. Better get ready for four more years of Trump.

Go ahead. Surprise me.

Walz is a WONDERFUL pick.

I couldn't be happier.

The Minnesota Maoist - because Cowardly Kamala just wasn't far enough left....

 

[Redress]

Republican Operatives Are ‘Thrilled’ Harris Picked Walz​

“For several well-placed Republican insiders on Tuesday, the response to Kamala Harris’s choice of Tim Walz as vice-president was one of overwhelming joy. “We are cheering,” said one veteran Republican operative, opining that Harris had picked the weakest-possible running mate on Harris’s short list. A plugged-in Washington insider marveled: “Republicans were in need of a lifeline this week and all so thrilled that Kamala Harris willing to give one to our side in our moment of need.”

The divide among Republicans wasn’t whether Harris made a sub-optimal choice but whether she actively made a bad one selecting the Minnesota governor. On the mild side of that debate, the senior Capitol Hill aide didn’t think Walz did Harris “any harm” — but also noted that the Minnesota governor was not the right pick to get her to 270 electoral votes.

Other GOP operatives saw Walz as presenting a plethora of weaknesses. One longtime Republican strategist described the Minnesota governor as “arguably the most pro-China Democrat not named Hunter Biden” and thought that Walz’s views on the issue would be political kryptonite in the industrial Midwest. “They don’t realize that arguably the most salient issue uniting everything in the Midwest, from fentanyl to deindustrialization to the culture wars, is China, and they just picked biggest China dove possible to be vice-president for Kamala Harris.”

Others thought that Democrats perceived the Minnesota governor as “a white working-class whisperer” and believed that they thought that voters in the Midwest would simply embrace Walz’s persona. However, Republicans universally thought that was a flawed calculation considering that Walz’s liberal record as governor and his embrace by the left wing of the Democratic Party, noting that figures like Bernie Sanders were lobbying for Walz to be Harris’s running mate.

The veteran operative said that he was already hearing dissatisfaction with the pick from wobbly Republicans who were at least open to the idea of voting for a Democrat.

Republican Operatives Are ‘Thrilled’ Tim Walz Is the VP Pick

All-important Pennsylvania is still winnable, they say. “We’re just so grateful to Kamala.”

nymag.com

Not saying that it will cause her to lose, but it very well might. It will, at least, make the race much tighter. She already had the progressive creds, she needed someone more moderate to appeal to more independents. She should have picked the noticeably young Governor of Kentucky, who also has red state creds, so we know that Republicans would vote for him. Bad pick. Better get ready for four more years of Trump.

Go ahead. Surprise me.

It is a VP pick. Either the "insiders" and "operatives" are totally ignorant of the fact that VP picks almost never have any significant effect on the election, or they are spinning.

 

[bongsaway]

Republican Operatives Are ‘Thrilled’ Harris Picked Walz​

“For several well-placed Republican insiders on Tuesday, the response to Kamala Harris’s choice of Tim Walz as vice-president was one of overwhelming joy. “We are cheering,” said one veteran Republican operative, opining that Harris had picked the weakest-possible running mate on Harris’s short list. A plugged-in Washington insider marveled: “Republicans were in need of a lifeline this week and all so thrilled that Kamala Harris willing to give one to our side in our moment of need.”

The divide among Republicans wasn’t whether Harris made a sub-optimal choice but whether she actively made a bad one selecting the Minnesota governor. On the mild side of that debate, the senior Capitol Hill aide didn’t think Walz did Harris “any harm” — but also noted that the Minnesota governor was not the right pick to get her to 270 electoral votes.

Other GOP operatives saw Walz as presenting a plethora of weaknesses. One longtime Republican strategist described the Minnesota governor as “arguably the most pro-China Democrat not named Hunter Biden” and thought that Walz’s views on the issue would be political kryptonite in the industrial Midwest. “They don’t realize that arguably the most salient issue uniting everything in the Midwest, from fentanyl to deindustrialization to the culture wars, is China, and they just picked biggest China dove possible to be vice-president for Kamala Harris.”

Others thought that Democrats perceived the Minnesota governor as “a white working-class whisperer” and believed that they thought that voters in the Midwest would simply embrace Walz’s persona. However, Republicans universally thought that was a flawed calculation considering that Walz’s liberal record as governor and his embrace by the left wing of the Democratic Party, noting that figures like Bernie Sanders were lobbying for Walz to be Harris’s running mate.

The veteran operative said that he was already hearing dissatisfaction with the pick from wobbly Republicans who were at least open to the idea of voting for a Democrat.

Republican Operatives Are ‘Thrilled’ Tim Walz Is the VP Pick

All-important Pennsylvania is still winnable, they say. “We’re just so grateful to Kamala.”

nymag.com

Not saying that it will cause her to lose, but it very well might. It will, at least, make the race much tighter. She already had the progressive creds, she needed someone more moderate to appeal to more independents. She should have picked the noticeably young Governor of Kentucky, who also has red state creds, so we know that Republicans would vote for him. Bad pick. Better get ready for four more years of Trump.

Go ahead. Surprise me.

Apparently the Democratic base is not agreeing with the gop's opinions. The opening rally with her new pick for VP I would say is going exceptionally well. The GOP probably also wants to see Joe come back instead of Harris.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I don't think it would be remotely wise to let "Republican operatives" tell the Democrats who to run, especially with the obvious probability that they are saying the person is bad because they're worried about the person's impact on Trump's chances.



Republican operatives said stuff, so you're gonna give up?

These are people who said Harris is useless and Biden should withdraw, then panicked when he did and she surged. And you're gonna listen? What?



EDIT: keep your eye on the ball. First, anyone paying knows positions change during election cycles, and after them. They also know only so much can get through congress. So for example, if Bernie were elected he wouldn't get anything done unless he were a pragmatist in office, and if he was, he'd only get more moderate things done. That's just how things work.

Moreover, Trump is the candidate. I always worry about a population whose attention span sometimes rivals that of a goldfish, but people do seem to remember just how awful Trump was and how dangerous T2 would be. Consider the parade of horribles they'd have to imagine to change their mind because of the VP pick.

A VP does how much compared to the presidency?

No need - we couldn't come up with a better choice.

Walz is utterly perfect.

Well, for we Americans - screw the democrats, we want them to loose.

 

[Ikari]

May not be a great pick, we'll have to see I suppose. He's better than Vance though, that's for sure.

 

[Jessie C]

Walz is a WONDERFUL pick.

I couldn't be happier.

The Minnesota Maoist - because Cowardly Kamala just wasn't far enough left....


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I'm so happy you love him, because he's going to be your new VP!

 

[watsup]

I don't think it would be remotely wise to let "Republican operatives" tell the Democrats who to run, especially with the obvious probability that they are saying the person is bad because they're worried about the person's impact on Trump's chances.



Republican operatives said stuff, so you're gonna give up?

These are people who said Harris is useless and Biden should withdraw, then panicked when he did and she surged. And you're gonna listen? What?



EDIT: keep your eye on the ball. First, anyone paying knows positions change during election cycles, and after them. They also know only so much can get through congress. So for example, if Bernie were elected he wouldn't get anything done unless he were a pragmatist in office, and if he was, he'd only get more moderate things done. That's just how things work.

Moreover, Trump is the candidate. I always worry about a population whose attention span sometimes rivals that of a goldfish, but people do seem to remember just how awful Trump was and how dangerous T2 would be. Consider the parade of horribles they'd have to imagine to change their mind because of the VP pick.

A VP does how much compared to the presidency?

A couple of more thoughts from the article in the OP:

-As one activist from the MAGA wing of the party dismissed the pick, “This is basically Midwest Tim Kaine with more baggage.”

-As the activist said, “Today is the best day for the Trump campaign since Kamala Harris was picked.”

And I disagree about the VP pick. The truth is that while Kamala is riding high right now, she has yet to go through the media crucible. Yes, a younger and more vibrant VP pick would have helped her just as a stronger pick would have helped Hillary. This will be a close election no matter what, and any “edge” is extremely important. I sure hope that Walz is a better campaigner than Tim Kaine was. He was like watching paint dry.

 

[Craig234]

Nonsense. She's standing for something better than other Democrats, a refreshing thing.

Centrists need to learn that there isn't only "nominate a Republican vp begging for their votes", there's turnout of Democrats, and the price is not worth nominating a bad right-wing vp. Remember the Truman quote: give Republicans a choice between a phony Republican and a Republican, and they'll choose the real thing.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Apparently the Democratic base is not agreeing with the gop's opinions. The opening rally with her new pick for VP I would say is going exceptionally well. The GOP probably also wants to see Joe come back instead of Harris.

No doubt the Hamas coalition is very happy.

So we're all happy that the Oligarchs selected Ilhan Omar Tim Walz.

Common ground between the Americans and the democrats....

 

[Helix]

"Republican operatives" are also thrilled about Trump. We'll have to take their opinions about other things with a grain of salt.

 

[Craig234]

Oh noes, Maga criticizes her pick. Seriously?

 

[ldub23]

Republican Operatives Are ‘Thrilled’ Harris Picked Walz​

“For several well-placed Republican insiders on Tuesday, the response to Kamala Harris’s choice of Tim Walz as vice-president was one of overwhelming joy. “We are cheering,” said one veteran Republican operative, opining that Harris had picked the weakest-possible running mate on Harris’s short list. A plugged-in Washington insider marveled: “Republicans were in need of a lifeline this week and all so thrilled that Kamala Harris willing to give one to our side in our moment of need.”

The divide among Republicans wasn’t whether Harris made a sub-optimal choice but whether she actively made a bad one selecting the Minnesota governor. On the mild side of that debate, the senior Capitol Hill aide didn’t think Walz did Harris “any harm” — but also noted that the Minnesota governor was not the right pick to get her to 270 electoral votes.

Other GOP operatives saw Walz as presenting a plethora of weaknesses. One longtime Republican strategist described the Minnesota governor as “arguably the most pro-China Democrat not named Hunter Biden” and thought that Walz’s views on the issue would be political kryptonite in the industrial Midwest. “They don’t realize that arguably the most salient issue uniting everything in the Midwest, from fentanyl to deindustrialization to the culture wars, is China, and they just picked biggest China dove possible to be vice-president for Kamala Harris.”

Others thought that Democrats perceived the Minnesota governor as “a white working-class whisperer” and believed that they thought that voters in the Midwest would simply embrace Walz’s persona. However, Republicans universally thought that was a flawed calculation considering that Walz’s liberal record as governor and his embrace by the left wing of the Democratic Party, noting that figures like Bernie Sanders were lobbying for Walz to be Harris’s running mate.

The veteran operative said that he was already hearing dissatisfaction with the pick from wobbly Republicans who were at least open to the idea of voting for a Democrat.

Republican Operatives Are ‘Thrilled’ Tim Walz Is the VP Pick

All-important Pennsylvania is still winnable, they say. “We’re just so grateful to Kamala.”

nymag.com

Not saying that it will cause her to lose, but it very well might. It will, at least, make the race much tighter. She already had the progressive creds, she needed someone more moderate to appeal to more independents. She should have picked the noticeably young Governor of Kentucky, who also has red state creds, so we know that Republicans would vote for him. Bad pick. Better get ready for four more years of Trump.

Go ahead. Surprise me.

She threw Trump a lifeline

 

[eman623]

A horrible pick. Unfortunately the best person for the job was...



But there is a sort of balance. A DEI presidential candidate (only black women need apply) makes a reverse DEI (no Jews need apply) pick for Vice Prez.

 

[Airyaman]

I personally think he is a great pick, and I'm a Republican by voter roles. He's exactly what this race needs: a politician with a spine. He's not going to play nice with Trump and Vance but he's going to keep up the same fight that Harris has been. I didn't see that willingness in the other VP choices.

Not only that, he has the chops: ex-military, school teacher, member of Congress with leadership roles, gun owner, owns a cat and a dog...he's pretty much blue collar through and through. The other side is elitists pretending to be for the working guy, but neither one gives two shits about the working man.

 

[Middleground]

Disappointed it was not Buttigieg; I am hoping she's saving him for Secretary of State. Still, it's a great ticket.

 

[Redress]

Walz is a WONDERFUL pick.

I couldn't be happier.

The Minnesota Maoist - because Cowardly Kamala just wasn't far enough left....


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Harris could have picked Ronald Reagan for VP and you would have called him a "Maoist". Go ahead and spin tho, it is very revealing.

 

[Pyrite]

It is a VP pick. Either the "insiders" and "operatives" are totally ignorant of the fact that VP picks almost never have any significant effect on the election, or they are spinning.

Didn't GOPer trump recently say about VPs: "Meh"?

 

[Craig234]

She threw Trump a lifeline

Don't get your hopes up, she picked the right person.

 

[Winston]

I like him . He has a certain regular appeal.

 

[Craig234]

Disappointed it was not Buttigieg; I am hoping she's saving him for Secretary of State. Still, it's a great ticket.

The thing with Buttigieg is, like Bernie, he seems more suited to doing his own thing than having to support a president 100% as VP. Give him a cabinet position.

 

[Emlee]

Did anyone think they would say anything different? Those insiders and Trump operatives would be saying the exact same thing no matter who was picked.

 

[Demon]

Does anyone think the Reps would say "oh no, he picked Waltz, we're devastated"? Of course not. They need to make it seem like they aren't at all worried.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm so happy you love him, because he's going to be your new VP!

ROFL

His selection further ensures that will never happen.

Political suicide instead of Shapiro is the best thing for the nation.

Clearly you understand that Kamala Harris has no business anywhere near the oval office - and took the one action that would ensure she never is.