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Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., won the Iowa Straw poll on Saturday, turning aside a surge by Rep. Ron Paul of Texas and maintaining the momenum with her rising campaign.
Bachmann captured 4,823 votes out of the total 16,892, while Paul captured 4,671. Former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty finished third 2,293 votes.
"From one Iowan to another, I will be the pace car, if you will, to set the tone and set the pace for bringing this country back to greatness," she said during her address at the Hilton Coliseum Saturday afternoon.
Bachmann winning was expected, but I think she needed a bit more than what she got to really stand out. Paul always does well with these and never wins anything that counts, which should continue. Pawlenty I think did best out of the top 3, and finally looks like he might have a chance to go awhile once primary season starts. Really looking forward to seeing what the rest got. Newt is probably toast after this.
Good news for Romney, as neither Bachman nor Dean has a chance in hell of getting the nomination. Pawlenty might have pulled it off he had won, but now he's probably toast.
Dean? Who the hell is Dean?
Bachmann winning was expected, but I think she needed a bit more than what she got to really stand out. Paul always does well with these and never wins anything that counts, which should continue. Pawlenty I think did best out of the top 3, and finally looks like he might have a chance to go awhile once primary season starts. Really looking forward to seeing what the rest got. Newt is probably toast after this.
Back in 2007 he came in fifth with less than a third as many votes.
FOX is reporting that Perry got about as many votes (voters had to write him in) as Romney did. I think the lesson going forward is that Bachmann and Paul are both a similar kind of candidate; and this becomes a Perry/Romney game, with Bachmann and Paul playing the role of spoiler. The question becomes can they pull enough voters for Perry to keep him from beating Romney, who I think (now that Bachman will not be The Lead Anti Romney) will have trouble significantly increasing his followership.
FOX is reporting that Perry got about as many votes (voters had to write him in) as Romney did. I think the lesson going forward is that Bachmann and Paul are both a similar kind of candidate; and this becomes a Perry/Romney game, with Bachmann and Paul playing the role of spoiler. The question becomes can they pull enough voters for Perry to keep him from beating Romney, who I think (now that Bachman will not be The Lead Anti Romney) will have trouble significantly increasing his followership.
Michelle did a great job. I was impressed. Ron Paul, however, destroyed himself in my eyes. He actually wants Iran to get The Bomb. What a dangerous jackass.
I see Perry/Romney, with Pawlenty if he can maintain the momentum he got her. The rest are all pretty much longshots at best at this point. Cain, Gingritch can pretty much hang it up now(though I think that was being said about McCain at one point last time around).
I don't see Perry wining just because I think mainstream republicans will see him not doing as well against Obama.
that's a good point about McCain - but McCain benefited from some very specific election dynamics; most specifically Romney and Huckabee fighting each other. I think we are seeing Pawlenty and Bachman playing the same role; but where I would argue for Bachmann is that her followers see her as standing for something within Republican Politics that Pawlenty just doesn't. Bachmann is the Huckabee of 2012, methinks.
hmmm, yet he places second before he even starts running? I rather suspect that the opposite is in effect - that most Republican voters (like me) will see him as the NotRomney that can win (Romney would be hampered in attacking Obamacare, but Perry has the perfect mirror-image economic record to place against Obama's); whereas Bachmann probably couldn't.
Nice spin, however inaccurate. Paul said he understands why Iran wants nukes - hell most of Iran's neighbors have them. It is human nature to want to protect themselves. If they were to get a nuke it would be irrelevant anyway. It's not like they have an army/airforce/navy to use it.Michelle did a great job. I was impressed. Ron Paul, however, destroyed himself in my eyes. He actually wants Iran to get The Bomb. What a dangerous jackass.
that's a good point about McCain - but McCain benefited from some very specific election dynamics; most specifically Romney and Huckabee fighting each other. I think we are seeing Pawlenty and Bachman playing the same role; but where I would argue for Bachmann is that her followers see her as standing for something within Republican Politics that Pawlenty just doesn't. Bachmann is the Huckabee of 2012, methinks.
hmmm, yet he places second before he even starts running? I rather suspect that the opposite is in effect - that most Republican voters (like me) will see him as the NotRomney that can win (Romney would be hampered in attacking Obamacare, but Perry has the perfect mirror-image economic record to place against Obama's); whereas Bachmann probably couldn't.
Nice spin, however inaccurate. Paul said he understands why Iran wants nukes - hell most of Iran's neighbors have them. It is human nature to want to protect themselves. If they were to get a nuke it would be irrelevant anyway. It's not like they have an army/airforce/navy to use it.
Your argument is like saying that you are for the 2nd amendment except for your neighbor because you don't like him.
Michelle did a great job. I was impressed. .
Bachmann winning was expected, but I think she needed a bit more than what she got to really stand out. Paul always does well with these and never wins anything that counts, which should continue. Pawlenty I think did best out of the top 3, and finally looks like he might have a chance to go awhile once primary season starts. Really looking forward to seeing what the rest got. Newt is probably toast after this.
So how could the Iowa Straw Poll not be important?
The candidates pay people to attend the Straw Poll, thus calling the value of the event into question.
Iowa republicans haven't been great at predicting future winners of the GOP presidential nomination or election.
Not every Iowa Straw Poll winner goes on to capture the Iowa caucus.
The event dooms many GOP presidential hopefuls. So Straw Poll candidates may walk themselves into a campaign dead end.
The event this year has been "light" on candidate attendance.
Sarah Palin's appearance at the event this year has distracted attention from the Iowa Straw Poll to herself.
Rick Perry's official announcement of his presidential ambitions today did an end-run around the Iowa poll.
Nice spin, however inaccurate. Paul said he understands why Iran wants nukes - hell most of Iran's neighbors have them. It is human nature to want to protect themselves. If they were to get a nuke it would be irrelevant anyway. It's not like they have an army/airforce/navy to use it.
Your argument is like saying that you are for the 2nd amendment except for your neighbor because you don't like him.
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