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B.O. is Now Below 50% Approval...

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He's on his way to the Bottom.:lol:


Rasmussen Reports: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere


Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Today marks the first time his overall approval rating has ever fallen below 50% among Likely Voters nationwide. Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove.
 
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Realist1 said:
He's on his way to the Bottom.:lol:


Rasmussen Reports: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere


Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Today marks the first time his overall approval rating has ever fallen below 50% among Likely Voters nationwide. Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove.
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I suspect his ratings will dip further, and that all the polls will show his approvals under water, before too long. The immediate cause is this Gates' fiasco, but it will bleed away energy from the healthcare debate at a time when he can't afford to lose focus on that.

Folks are seeing that Dear Leader can't lead, and the polls are starting to show that.
 
Day-to-day tracking like this doesn't mean a whole lot, but I think it's fair surmising that his train-wreck of a presser on Wednesday did him a disservice.
 
Harshaw said:
Day-to-day tracking like this doesn't mean a whole lot, but I think it's fair surmising that his train-wreck of a presser on Wednesday did him a disservice.
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Day by day numbers are of only passing relevancy, that much is true, however....

It is also true that Dear Leader's approval numbers have been trending significantly downward since the beginning of July--the rate of decline has been noticeably greater than before. Nor is the trend merely an increase in the disapproval numbers--people aren't just moving from the sideline to the disapprove category, they are also moving out of the approve category.

There is a clear trend in the decline of his approval ratings. He's hemorrhaging political capital at a time when he needs all the capital he can muster. What's worse for him is that his signature tactic--the public appearance/speech/press conference has lost its potency for moving the opinion poll goalposts. He who campaigned on a platform of "change" is going to have to do some hella changing or his presidency will unravel in its entirety.
 
celticlord said:
I suspect his ratings will dip further, and that all the polls will show his approvals under water, before too long. The immediate cause is this Gates' fiasco, but it will bleed away energy from the healthcare debate at a time when he can't afford to lose focus on that.

Folks are seeing that Dear Leader can't lead, and the polls are starting to show that.
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Yep,,,when he stopped reading the Teleprompter and spoke on his own,,,he immediately "Crashed and Burned".:lol: Typical Liberal. He said he didn't know the details of what happened, but then called the Police stupid.:roll:
 
Well, do keep in mind that Clinton bounced back from about 36% approval to win re-election comfortably.
 
Harshaw said:
Well, do keep in mind that Clinton bounced back from about 36% approval to win re-election comfortably.
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I believe B.O. will be able to sink even lower than Bill. I have "Faith" in him.:lol:
 
Harshaw said:
Well, do keep in mind that Clinton bounced back from about 36% approval to win re-election comfortably.
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Keep in mind that Clinton was able to pivot and play to the right, passing NAFTA and co-opting a number of Republican agenda items.

Dear Leader needs to be able to do the same thing. He lacks the political arsenal to pursue the aggressively liberal/leftist agenda he has attempted thus far; he does not have the institutional knowledge of LBJ, nor does he have a moment of deep crisis like FDR (he comes into the economic crisis at a time and in a fashion more indicative of being a latter day Hoover).

I don't see where he has left himself that particular exit from the corner, however. He's indulged too much of his finger-pointing fetish to be able to credibly cozy up to the Republicans now.

Clinton's one great understanding of the Presidency is that it always stands apart from Congress, even when the same party dominates both the Congress and the White House. Dear Leader has shown none of that understanding.
 
Well, Clinton's political gift was in becoming -- not just talking about it, not just speaking vaguely so people can project whatever they want into it -- but actually becoming whatever it is the polls said people wanted him to be at that moment, no matter how contradictory to the past, no matter if it matched his supposed platform -- and convincing people that he had always been that way. Heck, he probably believed it himself, which made him appear more credible about it.

Obama doesn't have that gift. The best he appears able to do is convince people that he was NEVER there for any of the bad stuff, but ALWAYS instrumental in all of the good stuff. Easy to do in a campaign; not so easy to do when you have an actual record. (Which could explain the about-face on "transparency.")
 
Harshaw said:
Well, Clinton's political gift was in becoming -- not just talking about it, not just speaking vaguely so people can project whatever they want into it -- but actually becoming whatever it is the polls said people wanted him to be at that moment, no matter how contradictory to the past, no matter if it matched his supposed platform -- and convincing people that he had always been that way. Heck, he probably believed it himself, which made him appear more credible about it.

Obama doesn't have that gift. The best he appears able to do is convince people that he was NEVER there for any of the bad stuff, but ALWAYS instrumental in all of the good stuff. Easy to do in a campaign; not so easy to do when you have an actual record. (Which could explain the about-face on "transparency.")
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True...B.O. did promise to be the most "Open and Honest" President ever,,,didn't he? :lol:
 
celticlord said:
None of the polls you cite concluded after his foot-in-mouth performance of a press conference. Rasmussen is the most timely of the polls at the moment.
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But Rasmussen consistently gives Obama the lowest poll numbers, making it the anomaly, which is fine if all you care about is partisan hackery, otherwise the avergage of all polls (54% approval) is the best way to judge the Presidents approval.
 
Obama Approval Below 50%

According to the daily tracking poll conducted by Rasmussen Reports, the approval rating of President Barack Obama has fallen below 50% for the first time since his inauguration. In a short six months, Mr. Obama has sunk from a high of 65% on Inauguration Day to a low of 49% approval in today’s poll. The consequent 51% disapproval rate makes it the first time that a majority of likely voters give Obama a negative rating.

This development was foreshadowed by other indications in previous days. His Approval Index has been hovering around the -7 mark for some time. The Approval Index is computed by subtracting the number of likely voters who strongly disapprove from those who strongly approve. Today’s index for President Obama showed 30% strongly approving, while 38% strongly disapproved for a -8 score.
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Yup, he's still in the 50% range and the right wing lying machine has done its job as usual. But, there is bound to be a dip anyway. Yes, I believe he is doing a stellar job given what he was handed and what he faces.
 
formerroadie said:
Yup, he's still in the 50% range and the right wing lying machine has done its job as usual. But, there is bound to be a dip anyway. Yes, I believe he is doing a stellar job given what he was handed and what he faces.
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As one of the newest and most consistent Obama-can-do-no-wrong-under-any-circumstances apologists on the board, one thing you'd know about is lying machines, I guess.
 
Re: Obama Approval Below 50%

This was bound to happen. Obama came into office with a thousand promises and he has not been able to keep them. Despite his time in the Senate it appears he never learned that it takes time. Now Obama is in a rush to get his healthcare past because pretty soon it will be impossible, especially since his Democractic supporters are starting to turn against him. He is having trouble getting anything passed, because Democratic and Republican senators are questioning him.
 
formerroadie said:
Yup, he's still in the 50% range and the right wing lying machine has done its job as usual. But, there is bound to be a dip anyway. Yes, I believe he is doing a stellar job given what he was handed and what he faces.
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What exactly has he done that gives him a "stellar" rating? He hasn't done a thing except stand on the balcony playing his fiddle while Rome burns.
 
Don't Tase Me Bro said:
Zogby has Obama at 48% as of today.
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B.O. has a serious problem with the American People,,,every time he opens his mouth without a Script on a Telepromter feeding him his Lines.:lol: Even the Liberal Dems have taken notice. They're starting to run away from him in droves.
 
Rasmussen has always been criticized for over sampling toward the right; even more than FOX News. It's not a reliable indication on any issue I've ever examined them for. But whatever. If the right wants to prop up their hopes on phantom figures, let them.
 
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Joe1991 said:
But Rasmussen consistently gives Obama the lowest poll numbers, making it the anomaly, which is fine if all you care about is partisan hackery, otherwise the avergage of all polls (54% approval) is the best way to judge the Presidents approval.
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That's not how statistics work. If 5 people use inaccurate methodologies to get poll results while one uses an accurate methodology, the fact that the others are closer doesn't make them right.

Morality Games said:
Rasmussen has always been criticized for over sampling toward the right; even more than FOX News.
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I've never heard anyone claim this. Link?

It's not a reliable indication on any issue I've ever examined them for. But whatever. If the right wants to prop up their hopes on phantom figures, let them.
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Yea, their track record is just awful.

http://www.fordham.edu/images/acade...ccuracy in the 2008 presidential election.pdf

Pollster Accuracy in 2008 Election:

Four of these polls appear to have overestimated McCain support (indicated with a * below), while most polls (17) overestimated Obama strength. Pre-election projections for two organizations’ final polls—Rasmussen and Pew—were perfectly in agreement with the actual election result (**).

The following list ranks the 23 organizations by the accuracy of their final, national preelection polls (as reported on pollster.com).

1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23)
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RightinNYC said:
I've never heard anyone claim this. Link?
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He's mis-stating the situation.

Rasmussen uses "likely voters" in their polling samples, unlike organizations such as Gallup which uses registered voters or all adults. The "likely voter" sample set typically trends rightward by a few percentage points.

Obama UpsideDown - Real Clear Politics – TIME.com

The question mark that should be applied to all the major polling organizations are not that the polling methodologies are statistically invalid, but to what extent to the populations sampled reflect the broader American public. That's a qualitative discussion that the polls themselves can't answer, except to look at historical results (and even that fails to be a complete answer because demographics change).

Rasmussen and I believe Zogby show Dear Leader under water in the approval ratings. However, all the polls show a marked decline in his approval ratings since the healthcare debate was joined in earnest--and that is the truth of the Rasmussen poll that Dear Leader's supporters are loathe to admit.
 
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