Azerbaijan seeks 15-year jail terms for Israeli embassy plot

[gree0232]

The term "Israeli-Arab conflict" is a global term, not chosen by Israel.

Also, can you please explain what has happened in this war:
1948 Arab?Israeli War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your argument holds no water, really.

You are going to have to explain this one, as it literally makes no sense. That the Arab Israeli conflict was not chosen by Israel as a means of defining this conflict really doesn't matter. In general, it describes the situation.

In an Academic sense, The Arab-Israeli conflict ended with the signing of the Camp David Accords. At that point moderate Arab regimes sortta broke with the 'Arab' camp. The problem since then is generally described as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or simply as the confines are not nearly so well drawn as the Palestinian Question.

If Azerbaijan is linked as a participant to one side of the conflict simply by virtue of their being majority Muslim, with no consideration for the strategic goasl and interests, then we see the problem. That one that I call Arab/Muslim monolothicism.

It is very similiar to McCarthyism, in that no delinations were made between Chinese communism, Russia communism, and Yugoslavian communism, and by assigning the lot of them based solely on what we thought was ideological monolithicism was fundamentally counter-productive and that many opportunities were subsequently lost when we avoided looking for seams and gaps to exploit.

Israel is making that same mistake with its presentation of Islamic monolithicism, and in doing so it is missing many opportunities to engender the condition it desires above all else: security.

Being critical of such things does mean I am against Israel, merely that I striongly believe their strategic framework for action is fundamentally flawed. I am quite sure that Mrs. Livni would not be taking similiar approaches.

 

[Gardener]

Gentlemen, I will remind you once again that you are not debating. You are well outside the rules of this forum.

Can either of you two wonder boys actually make an arguement?

Can you 'prove' that Hezboallah and Al Qeada are deliberately cooperating in Azerbaijan?

What you are doing in the meantime is called harassment, not debating. It either bring it around or I will continue to publically demadn taht the rules of decorum be enforced in this format.

It's so cute how you accused Tashah of treating people as a monolith (which she hadn't), while you didn't even know that Azerbaijanis were not Arab, and now that your mistake has been pointed out, instead of manning up you go all dramatic about bringing in the mods to save you.

amazing.

 

[gree0232]

It's so cute how you accused Tashah of treating people as a monolith (which she hadn't), while you didn't even know that Azerbaijanis were not Arab, and now that your mistake has been pointed out, instead of manning up you go all dramatic about bringing in the mods to save you.

amazing.

Gardener, I will remind you once again that there is a place for your personal brand of mudslinging and innuendo: It is called the basement.

Continuing this debate when your points have been addressed in great detail above is nothing more than personal smear campaign that has nothing to do with this thread. Again, you are bringing in absolutely nothing that deals with arguementation or evidence, only accusations and innuendo.

In short, and as the rules of this forum indicate, if you are not bringing an arguement relevant to the subject but would rather engage in personal attacks, either head to the basement or put a sock in it.

I am sorry that you cannot bring yourself to conduct research to support your arguementation and actually deal in the factual realm. It is sad to seen fallacy and personalized attack as the sole basis of your arguementation.

Once again, your slander has nothing to do with this thread.

 

[Gardener]

Gardener, I will remind you once again that there is a place for your personal brand of mudslinging and innuendo: It is called the basement.

Continuing this debate when your points have been addressed in great detail above is nothing more than personal smear campaign that has nothing to do with this thread. Again, you are bringing in absolutely nothing that deals with arguementation or evidence, only accusations and innuendo.

In short, and as the rules of this forum indicate, if you are not bringing an arguement relevant to the subject but would rather engage in personal attacks, either head to the basement or put a sock in it.

I am sorry that you cannot bring yourself to conduct research to support your arguementation and actually deal in the factual realm. It is sad to seen fallacy and personalized attack as the sole basis of your arguementation.

Once again, your slander has nothing to do with this thread.

Factual realm? What a joke. Azerbaijanis are not Arabs.

Despite all your melodramatic antics.

 

[gree0232]

Factual realm? What a joke. Azerbaijanis are not Arabs.

Despite all your melodramatic antics.

Yep, Al Qaeda and Hezboallah are. That makes you 1/3 right and me 2/3's right. We were attempting to link these two groups to Azerbaijan right?

So, is Azerbaijan part of this hegemonic activity or not?

Despite your focus on minutia, you are still incapable of producing an arguement that is relevant to this thread. Instead of playing childish, 'gotcha games', please attempt to make an arguement about whether or not Azerbaijan was linked to these two predominantly Arab groups?

Please tell me whether this is part and parcel of the Israel presentation of the Arab monolith that is forever threatening Israel with extermination or not? Please bear in mind, that Iran, which is Persian is included in that block as well.

So can you stop with childish accussations about other posters behavior and man up to an arguement or not? If not, head down to the basement and feel free to call me anything you want.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

01 June 2009

BEIRUT: The closed-door trial of two Lebanese and four Azeris accused of plotting an attack on the Israeli Embassy in Baku to avenge the assassination of Hizbullah commander Imad Mughniyeh began in Azerbaijan last week, according to sources close to the investigation.
Xawya Link

Is this the same story?

In June there is a link to Lebanon (beyond the citizenship of two of the accused) in mentioning "Imad Mughniyeh" as being a prime reason for the proposed (revenge?) bombing of an Israeli Embassy.

Other articles clearly state the two lebanese are Hizballah militants - not being expert in Lebanon, Gaza and Israel there does seem a worrying link.

 

[Tashah]

Is this the same story?

In June there is a link to Lebanon (beyond the citizenship of two of the accused) in mentioning "Imad Mughniyeh" as being a prime reason for the proposed (revenge?) bombing of an Israeli Embassy.

Other articles clearly state the two lebanese are Hizballah militants - not being expert in Lebanon, Gaza and Israel there does seem a worrying link.

Imad Mughniyeh (Lebanese) was a Hizb'Allah commander and an extremely dangerous terrorist. He is suspected of masterminding the attack on the US Embassy and Marine barracks in Beirut that killed hundreds. He is also suspected of being the mastermind behind the 1992 bombing of the Israel Embassy and the Jewish Cultural Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina,

He was indicted by the US in 1985 for the hijacking of a TWA jetliner in which a US Navy diver was killed. Also suspected of being behind the kidnapping and murder of CIA Lebanon station chief William Buckley in Beirut in 1984.

Mughniyeh was supposedly killed by a car bomb in Damascus, Syria in 2008. Hizb'Allah blamed the Mossad, but nothing has ever been confirmed. Some Western analyists have speculated that he was murdered by the Pasdaran for continually planning and carrying out high-profile terrorist operations without Tehran's knowledge and approval.