Authoritarian Liberals

[CaptainCourtesy]

Your most prominent characteristics are your delusions.

Your most prominent characteristics are your denial and your whining when you get beat... which happens each time you debate.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

False fixed beliefs without evidence. Agreed.

I have provided evidence. You and "your side" have provided meaningless rhetoric. That's to be expected, of course.

 

[US Conservative]

Your most prominent characteristics are your denial and your whining when you get beat... which happens each time you debate.

Actually, he's correct. That must be frustrating.

 

[US Conservative]

I have provided evidence. You and "your side" have provided meaningless rhetoric. That's to be expected, of course.

Tell me more about "my side". Reflect upon the thread title while you do.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Actually, he's correct. That must be frustrating.

Actually, he is incorrect. And that frustrates the both of you it seems.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Tell me more about "my side". Reflect upon the thread title while you do.

I don't have to tell you about "your side". "Your side" has presented all the information needed. All I have to do is point it out. You all always do all my work for me.

 

[US Conservative]

Actually, he is incorrect. And that frustrates the both of you it seems.

You aren't exactly disproving the thread premise, are you?

 

[Linc]

But its the same effect-an executive order is a de facto law-
and what you are saying is tyranny is ok if you support it-the ends justify the means.

Why are Boehner and the GOP House cowards like I$$A afraid to vote on a war resolution before the election?
Could it be their foot-in-mouth disease?
It seems executive actions are okay when they're trembling beind the Manly Obama .

 

[US Conservative]

Why are Boehner and the GOP House cowards like I$$A afraid to vote on a war resolution before the election?
Could it be their foot-in-mouth disease?
It seems executive actions are okay when they're trembling beind the Manly Obama .

Are you suggesting the Dems DO want that vote? Please, you know they dont.

 

[Linc]

When the left comes to the 50-yard line line, your team only comes to your 45.
As the left crosses over to the center right, you guys keep baqcking up to the goal line.

The left has drifted, not me. :2wave:

It's like a marriage--if both partners think they're giving 50%, they'll never meet in the middle and be happy.
You must always give more than what you consider half due to the perspective of the other person.

You'll learn these life lessons as you get older .

 

[Linc]

Are you suggesting the Dems DO want that vote? Please, you know they dont.

Still deflecting from the only person who can call both chambers into emergency session--the Speaker of the House?
I didn't know you did deflect.
I thought you were all about supporting the troops by showing them how United the Congress was behind them .

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

You aren't exactly disproving the thread premise, are you?

Actually, I am. I've been demonstrating how the authoritarianism applies to conservatives quite easily. As have many others. The response have been many conservative tears.

 

[US Conservative]

Still deflecting from the only person who can call both chambers into emergency session--the Speaker of the House?
I didn't know you did deflect.
I thought you were all about supporting the troops by showing them how United the Congress was behind them .

Like I said, they dont want the vote. In fact the dems dont want to bring up either before the election-and its for votes.

 

[US Conservative]

Actually, I am. I've been demonstrating how the authoritarianism applies to conservatives quite easily. As have many others. The response have been many conservative tears.

Thats the response I was looking for. Thank you.

 

[Misterveritis]

Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
It is authoritarian to propose a constitutional amendment to regulate people's personal lives.



"au·thor·i·tar·i·an
adjective \ȯ-ˌthär-ə-ˈter-ē-ən, ə-, -ˌthȯr-\

: expecting or requiring people to obey rules or laws : not allowing personal freedom"
Authoritarian - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

I think the right and ability of the majority to make laws affecting a minority needs to be limited with protections for everyone's basic civil rights. It is proper for courts to rule a law unconstitutional when it violates people's basic civil liberties. The right to choose one's romantic, sexual partners or room-mates is protected by the Bill of Rights among other parts of the constitution and ratified international treaties.

You are not really familiar with the idea of the consent of the governed are you? If 3/4ths of the states ratify it that is a clear indicator of the consent of the governed.The courts cannot rule a Constitutional Amendment unconstitutional.

Nice try though.

 

[Misterveritis]

Re: Authoritarian Liberals: A window into the soul of a Leftist

"I gave you the most important flaw already. He defined away the left wing and named his ranking scale right wing authoritarian. He perpetrates his fraud from the beginning.

You, based on his right wing authoritarian scale, would be in the mid to high range as a right wing authoritarian because you fall in line with this regime.

He is a propagandist. And look, it worked on you."

Not at all. He dismissed it because it was unproven in his research. You're just upset because he proved that right wingers are the authoritarians, destroying your rhetoric.

He defined it away. He is a propagandist and he convinced you. You are the kind of person he was targeting. You have proven that propaganda will still work just fine on the ones who want to be deceived.

There will always be plenty of willing dupes.

 

[iliveonramen]

But its the same effect-an executive order is a de facto law-and what you are saying is tyranny is ok if you support it-the ends justify the means.

So tyranny is the government establishing hiring practices for government jobs?

You want some to receive special treatment as you subjectively determine, and disregard the others as irrational racists, bigots, etc.
Lets just say thats tyranny, and you are in the drivers seat.

I haven't disregarded you. In fact I actually pointed out that there is some merit in the argument that affirmative action may not be as relevant now-a-days. Of course you want to be the martyr so badly you seem to be making some drastic jumps in what I wrote.

We gotcha, being a conservative is tough in today's world. Everybody is against you. You're such a brave person! Feel better?

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Its funny stuff, coercing people through govt force, isn't it comrade?

See the thing is, its no coercion...

 

[Hard Truth]

You are not really familiar with the idea of the consent of the governed are you? If 3/4ths of the states ratify it that is a clear indicator of the consent of the governed.The courts cannot rule a Constitutional Amendment unconstitutional.

Nice try though.

I am well aware that courts cannot rule a Constitutional Amendment unconstitutional. It is still authoritarian (and wrong) to regulate people's personal lives even if it is done legally with the consent of the majority because it infringes on personal freedom.

 

[US Conservative]

So tyranny is the government establishing hiring practices for government jobs?



I haven't disregarded you. In fact I actually pointed out that there is some merit in the argument that affirmative action may not be as relevant now-a-days. Of course you want to be the martyr so badly you seem to be making some drastic jumps in what I wrote.

We gotcha, being a conservative is tough in today's world. Everybody is against you. You're such a brave person! Feel better?

Thank you for demonstrating my point in this thread!

 

[US Conservative]

See the thing is, its no coercion...

Ah thats right, taxation, govt mandates, etc, are voluntary. Why dont you try that and tell us how it works out.

co·er·cion
kōˈərZHən,kōˈərSHən/Submit
noun
the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.

Did you learn this from the politburo?

 

[Donc]

Re: Authoritarian Liberals: A window into the soul of a Leftist

"I gave you the most important flaw already. He defined away the left wing and named his ranking scale right wing authoritarian. He perpetrates his fraud from the beginning.

You, based on his right wing authoritarian scale, would be in the mid to high range as a right wing authoritarian because you fall in line with this regime.

He is a propagandist. And look, it worked on you."

He defined it away. He is a propagandist and he convinced you. You are the kind of person he was targeting. You have proven that propaganda will still work just fine on the ones who want to be deceived.

There will always be plenty of willing dupes.

Hhmmm...If you had read past page eight, you woulda found this little gem in chapter six. Are you now contending that one’s constituents elect those that don't agree with their beliefs?:doh

< I sent the thirty-item RWA scale I was using in my research then to fifty legislative chambers, and in every single one except the Louisiana House, the Republicans scored higher overall than the Democrats >

 

[Misterveritis]

I am well aware that courts cannot rule a Constitutional Amendment unconstitutional. It is still authoritarian (and wrong) to regulate people's personal lives even if it is done legally with the consent of the majority because it infringes on personal freedom.

We can agree to disagree. People at the lowest levels of government must have the right to choose the rules they shall live under. If enough people believe that the government has overstepped the Constitution and respond with an Amendment who can blame them?

Nearly all social policy should be decided at the lowest levels by voters or representatives. They should not have rules imposed upon them by unaccountable rabble in black robes. Since that is happening one should not be surprised by a response.

 

[Misterveritis]

Re: Authoritarian Liberals: A window into the soul of a Leftist

Hhmmm...If you had read past page eight, you woulda found this little gem in chapter six. Are you now contending that one’s constituents elect those that don't agree with their beliefs?:doh

< I sent the thirty-item RWA scale I was using in my research then to fifty legislative chambers, and in every single one except the Louisiana House, the Republicans scored higher overall than the Democrats >

There is no point in reading further given the start where he defined out left wing authoritarianism.

I read to the point where he admits that the majority of people on his right wing authoritarian scale would simply be called law abiding. No wonder democrats are on the low end of the scale. Many of you are lawless.

It is hard to defeat an incumbent. Sometimes they lie to get elected. And sometimes they change. Once in they are hard to get rid of.

 

[Jack Hays]

Your most prominent characteristics are your denial and your whining when you get beat... which happens each time you debate.

Keep up the good work.