Not quite. Hobby lobby pays their employees a salary. They are free to do with that salary what they wish. They could buy large, spinning, riveted dildos with it, that's their choice. The company providing the large, spinning, riveted dildos is a completely different story.
How is your free exercise of religion not impacted if you, as an employer must provide a benefit against your religious beliefs to others, or pay a fine not to do so? The SCOTUS will hear this case and that fine will never be paid. Giving the gov't power to order anyone to pay for a private service that they do not wish to offer, or to buy a private product that they do not wish to have should be unconstitutional. The silly opinion of 5/4 of our nine robed umpires that the income tax law allows for added taxation based upon what you did not "voluntarily" spend your income on is absurd. Today that may be only private medical care insurance (details to be specified later), tomorrow it might be little "green" electric carts and solar/wind chargres. Allowing the gov't to mandate personal or business income allocation for any private product/service is way out of Constitutional bounds.
The company is providing health care, and I don't know any religion that considers health care a violation. The morning after pill is a pill to cure the "pregnancy disease" in their minds, which violates their religion. I am absolutely baffled as to why the hobby lobby workers can't simply buy it for themselves in the off chance that they need it.The company is providing health care. What if that is against their religion too?
That begs the question of what counts as a religion or a religious belief for policy purposes. The Romans judged such things based on the antiquity of the tradition. If the United States defines any belief a person asserts is religious to count as a religious belief, than any number of bizarre or unethical behaviors may receive constitutional protection.
The company is providing health care. What if that is against their religion too?
If you are forcing me to cover your birth control that puts me firmly in your bedroom. Practice some logic, ok?
The company is providing health care. What if that is against their religion too?
The company is providing health care, and I don't know any religion that considers health care a violation. The morning after pill is a pill to cure the "pregnancy disease" in their minds, which violates their religion. I am absolutely baffled as to why the hobby lobby workers can't simply buy it for themselves in the off chance that they need it.
These churches and movements have religious beliefs against some or most forms of medical care:
■Followers of Christ
■Faith Assembly
■Church of the Firstborn
■Christian Science
■Faith Tabernacle
■End Time Ministries
■The Believers’ Fellowship
■Jehovah’s Witnesses
■Church of God of the Union Assembly
■Church of God (certain congregations)
■First Century Gospel Church
■Full Gospel Deliverance Church
■Faith Temple Doctoral Church of Christ in God
■Jesus through Jon and Judy
■Christ Miracle Healing Center
■Northeast Kingdom Community Church
■Christ Assembly
■The Source
■“No Name” Fellowship
■The Body
■1 Mind Ministries
■Twelve Tribes
■Born in Zion Ministry
Since 1980 children have died in these sects without medical attention for:
■pneumonia
■meningitis
■diabetes
■diphtheria
■appendicitis
■measles
■gangrene
■dehydration
■blood poisoning
■Wilm’s tumor and other cancers
■perinatal suffocation or strangulation
■diarrhea
■respiratory infections
■kidney infections
■Rocky Mountain spotted fever
■epilepsy
■pericarditis
■strangulated hernia
■bowel obstruction
■sepsis
■thalassemia
Part of many women's healthcare includes using birth control. Why should a company choose for them? Especially since it is a cost saving benefit. Hobby Lobby does not pay one extra dime for it. It is also a purely religous issue that is subject to seperation of church and state. A company may not impose their religous views on their employees.
Part of many women's healthcare includes using birth control. Why should a company choose for them?
Especially since it is a cost saving benefit. Hobby Lobby does not pay one extra dime for it.
It is also a purely religous issue that is subject to seperation of church and state.
A company may not impose their religous views on their employees.
Part of many women's healthcare includes using birth control. Why should a company choose for them? Especially since it is a cost saving benefit. Hobby Lobby does not pay one extra dime for it. It is also a purely religous issue that is subject to seperation of church and state. A company may not impose their religous views on their employees.
I have 2 statements to make here:
1) Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to impose your religious views on others. Your freedom of religion stops where my own freedom of religion begins.
2) If Hobby Lobby wants to pay 1.3 million in fines per day, then by all means let them. It will help reduce our deficit a tiny bit. Thank you, Hobby Lobby, for volunteering to pay a little more.
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I'm Christian Scientist. We aren't providing anything close to the coverage Obamacare calls for my auto parts company employees because my religion strictly regulates my going to doctors and what I can go to them for.
That's what they're trying to do, but the governement wants to require the business to fund those bedroom activities.
Why is that a good question? There is no justifiable reason to compel them to provide it.
What I don't understand is why it doesn't violate their religion when somebody purchases a morning after pill themselves. After all the company paid the salary that paid for the purchase. It is still their money that bought the thing.
And you are wrong..there are many religions that forbid medical treatment.
Churches with religious beliefs against medical care |
Except that's not how it works. The employer pays a flat fee per month per employee. They are not paying any more to pay for contraceptives than they would be not to. It is then up to the employee whether or not they want to take advantage of the contraceptive coverage or not. What's really happening here is that the employer wants to tell the employee what they can and cannot do in their off-hours, in a bedroom which is none of the employer's damn business.
That's the reality.
Part of many women's healthcare includes using birth control. Why should a company choose for them?
Except that's NOT the reality. If it were, the employer would have a choice to choose a plan that doesn't include the funding of private sexual activity. Want to hold your bedroom activities private? - pay for them yourself.
Then they have the freedom to structure said company so they don't have to provide health insurance.
Nonsense. Dental and vision are more legitimately a part of everyone's health care need, and yet there is no requirement to provide either.
Part of any persons healthcare is personal hygiene. Should the employer have to pay for soap, toothpaste , etc.?
When did personal responsibility end?
But they don't. Deal with it. These are the plans that are available. Pick one. An employer should no more be able to pick and choose whether contraceptive coverage is available than they should be able to cover whether lung cancer treatment is available.
I sometimes want to be not-sober as a personal choice.
The government should mandate free booze for me.
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