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Atheists Seek Chaplain Role in the Military

Bigfoot 88 said:
Athiesm is a religion that worships the belief that there is no God
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Barbecue competitions are a religion that worship briscuit.

You know it's a worthless comment when it can be said about anything and it doesn't make any less sense.
 
Athiesm is a religion that worships the belief that there is no God

amen .. YOU GOT THAT ONE RIGHT

Liberals - Socialists - Atheists - Moral relativists - Environmentalists - Secular Humanists - Anarchists - Unitiarians - New Agers - progressives etc etc .. are just as 'religious' as anyone else ( if not more ) . . . . sorry . . but you can't divorce yourself from religion . . .
It's what you believe .. IT'S YOUR IDOLOGY .. and simply needs to be defined
 
dadman said:
Athiesm is a religion that worships the belief that there is no God

amen .. YOU GOT THAT ONE RIGHT

Liberals - Socialists - Atheists - Moral relativists - Environmentalists - Secular Humanists - Anarchists - Unitiarians - New Agers - progressives etc etc .. are just as 'religious' as anyone else ( if not more ) . . . . sorry . . but you can't divorce yourself from religion . . .
It's what you believe .. IT'S YOUR IDOLOGY .. and simply needs to be defined
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It's like you're mad at the atheists so you're trying to insult them by saying "see! you're just as silly as I am!"

Very funny to watch. Good going dude.
 
It's like you're mad at the atheists so you're trying to insult them by saying . . . la-de-da !!

Nope .. not mad at anyone . . .
just kickn the barrel away from those hiding behind it ..
"we're not religious .. we're not religious" . . . r i i i i ght !!
 
As an atheist I generally do what actual atheists do and that is to rarely ever think about religion or anything associated with it. The few times religion is brought back to my attention, it's invariably the result of a group of "atheists" doing something stupid like this. No wonder some people think atheism is a religion.
 
LuckyDan said:
What is the difference between atheist counseling and any old secular counselor?
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Are counselors even available for soldiers except for medical reasons?

Will going to a conselor put a black mark on your record like those who go for PTSD?
 
scourge99 said:
Are counselors even available for soldiers except for medical reasons?

Will going to a conselor put a black mark on your record like those who go for PTSD?
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I've never been in the service, but I would think anyone who needed to talk about anything spiritual could seek out the chaplain, including those who may not consider themselves religious but are still wrestling with a moral question, or even a non-religious concern, like marital troubles.

Can't see a reason to be marked for it in any case.
 
X Factor said:
Many atheists are quite judgmental of people who have religious beliefs. Can you imagine what would happen if the chaplain was Scourge and a Christian soldier went to him for spiritual advice?
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If I was a chaplain my job wouldn't be to chastise, question, or critique others beliefs. Rather I'd be offering pastoral care to individuals, and supporting their religious rights and needs

However, this is a public debate forum, I am not a chaplain, and you are not a soldier. This is a place where people such as yourself are often caught making silly claims they can't show as true. And its usually individuals such as myself calling you out out on your ignorance, mistakes, lies, and misrepresentations.

And FYI, I'm married to a Christian and my mother-in-law is a pastor. Mull that one over for awhile.
 
iamitter said:
The same one between religious counseling and any old religious counselor.


Having said that, I really don't think this is necessary. Atheism isn't a religion, it's merely a lack of a belief in a god - why should it be treated as more than it is?
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A lack of god is equal to a belief in god, a balance of the Universe. There is no ying without a yang.
 
shintao said:
A lack of god is equal to a belief in god, a balance of the Universe. There is no ying without a yang.
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That makes no sense. Does that analogy apply to everything?
ie. A lack of _ is equal to a belief in _ .
Try putting in random things in there.
 
X Factor said:
Many atheists are quite judgmental of people who have religious beliefs. Can you imagine what would happen if the chaplain was Scourge and a Christian soldier went to him for spiritual advice?
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As an atheist recently said, 'welcome to my world.'
 
dadman said:
I don't get it either . . . what does an atheist have to offer . . .
eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow you die ??
PS: how many toys have you collected ??



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Funny, I don't believe in any gods but think I have a lot to offer.
 
scourge99 said:
If I was a chaplain my job wouldn't be to chastise, question, or critique others beliefs. Rather I'd be offering pastoral care to individuals, and supporting their religious rights and needs

However, this is a public debate forum, I am not a chaplain, and you are not a soldier. This is a place where people such as yourself are often caught making silly claims they can't show as true. And its usually individuals such as myself calling you out out on your ignorance, mistakes, lies, and misrepresentations.

And FYI, I'm married to a Christian and my mother-in-law is a pastor. Mull that one over for awhile.
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I actually laughed at the thought of you "offering pastoral care to individuals, and supporting their religious rights and needs". :lamo

Somehow I doubt you'd be able to be able to suppress your obvious contempt. Your justifications seem hollow. There are atheists here who can have a respectful discussion about religion, even recognizing where it has done some good even if they don't agree with the beliefs themselves. You are so not one of those atheists, I don't care who you're married to.
 
X Factor said:
I actually laughed at the thought of you "offering pastoral care to individuals, and supporting their religious rights and needs". :lamo

Somehow I doubt you'd be able to be able to suppress your obvious contempt. Your justifications seem hollow. There are atheists here who can have a respectful discussion about religion, even recognizing where it has done some good even if they don't agree with the beliefs themselves. You are so not one of those atheists, I don't care who you're married to.
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scourge has always afaik been supportive of religious freedom on this forum, and has been as been as respectful of religious opinion as any other opinion. You might not care who he's married to, but the fact that he's married to a Christian makes your assertion that he is full of contempt pretty ridiculous.
 
Anarcho-fascist said:
scourge has always afaik been supportive of religious freedom on this forum, and has been as been as respectful of religious opinion as any other opinion.
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ROFLMAO *wipes tears from eyes* Good one.

You might not care who he's married to, but the fact that he's married to a Christian makes your assertion that he is full of contempt pretty ridiculous.
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What's ridiculous is that he's obviously full of contempt and you're like the only one who can't recognize it.
 
X Factor said:
ROFLMAO *wipes tears from eyes* Good one.

What's ridiculous is that he's obviously full of contempt and you're like the only one who can't recognize it.
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What's so funny? Don't you have anything to back up your claims? Just because someone thinks you are wrong about something doesn't mean they have contempt for you. I don't feel contempt for religious persons (unless they happen to consistently be an asshole or dishonest etc.).
 
Anarcho-fascist said:
What's so funny? Don't you have anything to back up your claims? Just because someone thinks you are wrong about something doesn't mean they have contempt for you.
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There's ways to say that someone is wrong without being a disrespectful snot about it (I mean that generally, not referring to any particular person).

I don't feel contempt for religious persons (unless they happen to consistently be an asshole or dishonest etc.).
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I feel the same way about atheists. ;)
 
X Factor said:
There's ways to say that someone is wrong without being a disrespectful snot about it (I mean that generally, not referring to any particular person).
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By "disrespectful snot" you mean "a bit abrasive" and "not giving deference to".
 
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