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Atheists, lets get real

Quag said:
They are defined and according to you (a guy with clearly no knowledge of philosophy) that means they exist

So get on your knees and pray to FSM
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lol i do know philopshipy, you define an argument and thats that
 
Deuce said:
Then who did? Because maybe we should worship that being.

There’s only two possibilities: god was unwilling to stop the creation of smallpox, or god was unable to stop the creation of smallpox.

The first possibility invalidates the “all-good” concept, the second invalidates the “all-powerful” concept. Both of which invalidate central claims of the Bible.
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And the Bible explains that, also...when Satan challenged God's right to rule man, God allowed him the freedom to prove himself...Satan is the ruler of this world...how is he doing so far?

"We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." 1 John 5:19
 
Elvira said:
And the Bible explains that, also...when Satan challenged God's right to rule man, God allowed him the freedom to prove himself...Satan is the ruler of this world...how is he doing so far?

"We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." 1 John 5:19
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That's a long assss game God's is playing. So, what about all the good crap happening, Satan? Just asking.
 
TypicalRussian said:
Lets assume at some point you were a Christian,Muslim, or Jew

Why did you switch to atheism?

Be Honest, hence why I said lets get real, no more stupid questioning, no more debating or dancing around, explain to ME why you are an atheist

I am nit trying to convert you either, all I want is for you to explain your position
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I think it's up to the Religious to explain because they're the ones believing in something. Not to mention, those beliefs vary by a lot. I would want individual explanations personally.
 
Ginger Ale said:
That's a long assss game God's is playing. So, what about all the good crap happening, Satan? Just asking.
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That's just too dumb to answer, but I will...not everyone gives in to Satan's tactics...SMH...there are people in this world striving to do the right thing, believers and non-believers, alike...

And to God, it's merely a few day's time, compared to all eternity...
 
Ginger Ale said:
I think it's up to the Religious to explain because they're the ones believing in something. Not to mention, those beliefs vary by a lot. I would want individual explanations personally.
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thats a whole different thing, this is more of a exploring the atheist thinker type experiment
 
TypicalRussian said:
how is he responsible for evil? full stop.
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God killed entire nations, and once even killed all but a dozen people on the planet.

The devil killed a dozen or so people (Job's family) and only after God said it was okay to do so.
 
Luce said:
God killed entire nations, and once even killed all but a dozen people on the planet.

The devil killed a dozen or so people (Job's family) and only after God said it was okay to do so.
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Satan is responsible for all our deaths...if Adam and Eve had not listened to him and disobeyed, they would still be here...

"For the wages sin pays is death..." Romans 6:23
 
Elvira said:
Satan is responsible for all our deaths...if Adam and Eve had not listened to him and disobeyed, they would still be here...

"For the wages sin pays is death..." Romans 6:23
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That sounds like "I didn't want to kill him, but he wouldn't listen."
 
Luce said:
That sounds like "I didn't want to kill him, but he wouldn't listen."
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They were told that disobedience would lead to death...they were warned...
 
Elvira said:
They were told that disobedience would lead to death...they were warned...
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So it's "do as I say, or I kill everyone."

That's not a god.
 
Luce said:
So it's "do as I say, or I kill everyone."

That's not a god.
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God is our source of life...literally...we were created to lean upon Him and not our own understanding...outside of that, we die, plain and simple...

"I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him.
It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step." Jeremiah 10:23

“Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding.”​ Proverbs 3:5
 
Elvira said:
God is our source of life...literally...we were created to lean upon Him and not our own understanding...outside of that, we die, plain and simple...

"I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him.
It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step." Jeremiah 10:23

“Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding.”​ Proverbs 3:5
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Well, so much for free will, eh?
 
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