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... and liberals oppose the relaxed regulations, what a surprise...
... and liberals oppose the relaxed regulations, what a surprise...
Yes, something about needing a travel ban to supposedly protect American citizens while allowing paranoid schizophrenics to purchase assault weapons and unlimited ammo not making a whole lot of sense.
Yes, something about needing a travel ban to supposedly protect American citizens while allowing paranoid schizophrenics to purchase assault weapons and unlimited ammo not making a whole lot of sense.
Yes, something about needing a travel ban to supposedly protect American citizens while allowing paranoid schizophrenics to purchase assault weapons and unlimited ammo not making a whole lot of sense.
BWhahaahahaha.
You can't purchase an actual 'assault weapon' without a Class III license. While it might be theoretically possible for a paranoid-schitz to get a Class III, it isn't likely.
And anyone can already purchase unlimited ammo.
Neither of these things you're whining about would be changed under the white paper recommendations. I'm guessing you didn't read it.
what stupid nonsense. if someone has been adjudicated mentally incompetent they cannot buy or own weapons. what else do you left-wingers want?
The EO from Obama protected no one, as everyone that would have been affected was already a prohibited person, which means that the Congressional didn't put us anymore at risk.
Actually they did because now we're going back to relying on mentally deranged people attempting to purchase a weapon with the intent of using it in the commission of a crime to be honest and tell the dealer they are a prohibited person themselves rather than providing dealers that information in the background check results. The rule was implemented precisely because mentally deranged people were lying (surprise!) and able to purchase guns that were used to commit murder because they otherwise passed their background checks.
Um, bud, that whole thing apparently wasn't working worth a darn already....
We want the rule that includes that information in background check results that House Republicans rolled back several days ago with Trump's support. That information is not otherwise independently available to dealers - which is why insane people can and have easily acquired the weapons they've used to commit homicide.
Actually they did because now we're going back to relying on mentally deranged people attempting to purchase a weapon with the intent of using it in the commission of a crime to be honest and tell the dealer they are a prohibited person themselves rather than providing dealers that information in the background check results. The rule was implemented precisely because mentally deranged people were lying (surprise!) and able to purchase guns that were used to commit murder because they otherwise passed their background checks.
The rule only affect SSID and SSI recipients with designated payees due to court-declared mental incompetence.
Yes, which is huge step in the right direction. Unless you actually believe that we should just trust mentally deranged people intent on committing homicide to self-report their prohibited person status to dealers instead of notifying dealers that they are a prohibited person through the background check system.
Did you miss the part where anyone on the list had to have been already declared mentally incompetent and thus a prohibited person? They would have already been reported to NICS.
Here's the funny part: https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.NSF/lnx/0200502020
It only assigns representative payees to those who can't manage their finances due to mental incompetence. Nothing in there says that a schizophrenic, sadist, manic/depressive or other mentally ill people aren't capable of managing their own SSID and SSI funding. This "rule" wouldn't actually catch anyone capable of using a gun.
We want the rule that includes that information in background check results that House Republicans rolled back several days ago with Trump's support. That information is not otherwise independently available to dealers - which is why insane people can and have easily acquired the weapons they've used to commit homicide.
It would catch people such as Colby Delana, a paranoid schizophrenic who purchased a gun with money from her social security disability checks and was able to do so because she otherwise passed the background check. She used it to murder her father before attempting suicide with it.
It would catch people such as Colby Delana, a paranoid schizophrenic who purchased a gun with money from her social security disability checks and was able to do so because she otherwise passed the background check. She used it to murder her father before attempting suicide with it.
You mean you want to violate patient-doctor privilege and allow people to be barred of their constitutional rights with something less than due process and a court adjudication?
1) There is no violation of doctor-patient privilege. The person in question or their legal guardian voluntarily reveals that information to the government when they apply for social security disability benefits and the rule does not reveal the reason for the prohibited person status in the background check results. NICS is provided only with a name, dob, sex, and social security number in these cases.
2) No constitutional right is open-ended and rule requires the impacted persons to be notified and appeal with adjudication. Due process is satisfied.
1) There is no violation of doctor-patient privilege. The person in question or their legal guardian voluntarily reveals that information to the government when they apply for social security disability benefits and the rule does not reveal the reason for the prohibited person status in the background check results. NICS is provided only with a name, dob, sex, and social security number in these cases.
the question I ask is what level of mental illness should be required to strip someone of their rights. and some forms of mental illness DO NOT increase any propensity for violence. Seems to me what is happening is those who don't want legal gun ownership are using any means available to strip people of their ability to own firearms
If the name comes from the SSA, are they reporting felons on their list, or domestic violence offenders?
Why aren't you getting that to even get on the SSA's list to be reported to NICS they would have to have been adjudicated mentally incompetent by a court and already reported to NICS, legally?