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At least 32 Palestinians killed in Gaza as IDF fires on crowds seeking food

Phys251 said:
You are condoning firing into a crowd of unarmed civilians.
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Is it anarchy... like Stop Oil or these street takeovers that lead to riots? If it is then why not?


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Tigerace117 said:
If I was starving to death and desperate I would absolutely take risks in hopes of getting food, regardless of how utterly vicious the IDF has shown itself to be.
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That's all I need to know.
 
Bodi said:
It could be if it will lead to stealing food or a riot, or something, that is contrary to the greater good.
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Could have been a Hamas member among them with a bomb giving them reason not to retreat.
 
Individual said:
Could have been a Hamas member among them with a bomb giving them reason not to retreat.
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It could be. Out of the many wars that there have been, this one is pretty screwy.

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Cosmo said:
Oh wow so suddenly they're so concerned with not dying? What about the last 20 years they spent squandering every single resource to go to war with their numerically and technologically superior neighbor?
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Who's they? It's easy to lump in civilians with a terror group like Hamas. Then we can gun them down guilt free. Even more if they're brown.

They shot starving civilians. On purpose. While withholding food.

That's a war crime. As bad as what Hamas did on Oct 7. But it's okay when "our side" does it, right?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Israel spending seventy plus years trying to steal their neighbors’s land and throwing a pathetic tantrum every time those neighbors dared fought back not ringing a bell?
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Nope. I prefer history to your fairy tales.
Tigerace117 said:
Pretending like Israel hasn’t spent decades desperately trying to keep the Palestinians from being able to exercise their autonomy— and still failed— is pathetic.
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uptower said:
Who's they? It's easy to lump in civilians with a terror group like Hamas.
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Hamas isn't just a terror group. It's a widely supported political party leading Gaza. There are others, but my understanding is they hold similarly self-destructive beliefs.
uptower said:
Then we can gun them down guilt free. Even more if they're brown.

They shot starving civilians. On purpose. While withholding food.

That's a war crime. As bad as what Hamas did on Oct 7. But it's okay when "our side" does it, right?
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You really think the IDF guards had enough loaves of bread up their asses available to feed the entire crowd at a moment's notice? Don't you think a more realistic scenario is they were guards stationed to guard a checkpoint, had little to no idea as to the food inventory of the facility, and knew little more than angry mob charging at us, now what?
 
Cosmo said:
Hamas isn't just a terror group. It's a widely supported political party leading Gaza. There are others, but my understanding is they hold similarly self-destructive beliefs.

You really think the IDF guards had enough loaves of bread up their asses available to feed the entire crowd at a moment's notice? Don't you think a more realistic scenario is they were guards stationed to guard a checkpoint, had little to no idea as to the food inventory of the facility, and knew little more than angry mob charging at us, now what?
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Oh should the people of Gaza be shot for not liking Israel? Ony one of those is a war crime, I'll leave you to guess which.

And yes after we've seen the state of Israel deliberately starve Palestinians and heard whistle-blowers from the IDF tell us civilians are treated as targets, that's exactly what I think.
 
uptower said:
Oh should the people of Gaza be shot for not liking Israel?
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They didn't get shot for not liking Israel. They got shot because war zones are dangerous and shit happens there, especially when you aggressively charge at a checkpoint. Yes, even if you do it while you're tragically hungry today after spending 20 years being fine with squandering every resource to murder the Jew.
uptower said:
Ony one of those is a war crime, I'll leave you to guess which.

And yes after we've seen the state of Israel deliberately starve Palestinians and heard whistle-blowers from the IDF tell us civilians are treated as targets, that's exactly what I think.
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Cosmo said:
They didn't get shot for not liking Israel. They got shot because war zones are dangerous and shit happens there, especially when you aggressively charge at a checkpoint. Yes, even if you do it while you're tragically hungry today after spending 20 years being fine with squandering every resource to murder the Jew.
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If you think that, you should also think the victims of October 7 were legitimate targets as well for occupying stolen land.

I don't.
 
Cosmo said:
Hamas isn't just a terror group. It's a widely supported political party leading Gaza. There are others, but my understanding is they hold similarly self-destructive beliefs.

You really think the IDF guards had enough loaves of bread up their asses available to feed the entire crowd at a moment's notice? Don't you think a more realistic scenario is they were guards stationed to guard a checkpoint, had little to no idea as to the food inventory of the facility, and knew little more than angry mob charging at us, now what?
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There is an excuse for anythink. You only have to seek hard enough.

All Nazi terror btw only happened because of the treaty of Versailes, did you know that? The allies fault!
 
Australia condemns Israel's 'indefensible' actions in Gaza as calls for sanctions grow louder

“The Israeli government’s aid delivery model is dangerous, fuels instability and deprives Gazans of human dignity. We condemn the drip feeding of aid and the inhumane killing of civilians, including children, seeking to meet their most basic needs of water and food. It is horrifying that over 800 Palestinians have been killed while seeking aid.”

Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke told ABC News Breakfast the “images of children being killed, of horrific slaughter, of churches being bombed” were “indefensible.”
 
Cosmo said:
Hamas isn't just a terror group. It's a widely supported political party leading Gaza. There are others, but my understanding is they hold similarly self-destructive beliefs.

You really think the IDF guards had enough loaves of bread up their asses available to feed the entire crowd at a moment's notice? Don't you think a more realistic scenario is they were guards stationed to guard a checkpoint, had little to no idea as to the food inventory of the facility, and knew little more than angry mob charging at us, now what?
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Gee, it’s almost like Israel brutally murdering innocent people time and again and constantly stealing other people’s land empowers extremists. Who knew?

Oh, a more realistic scenario is they knew they wouldn’t get in trouble for gunning down innocent Palestinian civilians, so they did so without the slightest bit of hesitation .
 
uptower said:
If you think that, you should also think the victims of October 7 were legitimate targets as well for occupying stolen land.

I don't.
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Oh please! Not the "stolen land" bullshit again...
 
german hick said:
There is an excuse for anythink. You only have to seek hard enough.

All Nazi terror btw only happened because of the treaty of Versailes, did you know that? The allies fault!
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You trying out the just post some irrelevant stupid shit approach to debate?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Gee, it’s almost like Israel brutally murdering innocent people time and again and constantly stealing other people’s land empowers extremists. Who knew?
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Oh good another poster with the "stealing land" bullshit.
Tigerace117 said:
Oh, a more realistic scenario is they knew they wouldn’t get in trouble for gunning down innocent Palestinian civilians, so they did so without the slightest bit of hesitation .
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uptower said:
Yeah again. And it's true. They're trying to take more even more right now, by starving them out; and starving civilians are targets.
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What makes you think they "stole" the land?
 
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