At least 10 dead in Paris shooting[W:163]

[Lutherf]

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Two men that walk into a building armed with automatic weapons and only kill ten were not well trained.

They did the job, left and weren't caught. That actually shows quite a bit of discipline.

These weren't "kill 'em all" rampage shooters like we see in school shootings. These were people with a very specific agenda and a properly executed plan.

 

[L0neW0lf]

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What is offensive?

Anything could be offensive.

And each publication has the right to decide to censor what it deems offensive and not censor what it doesn't.

 

[Grant]

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This is shocking.

It looks like freedom of speech is officially dead in Europe.

It has been for a while. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...ate-any-offensive-comments-social-media.shtml

 

[youngturk]

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It has been for a while. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...ate-any-offensive-comments-social-media.shtml

Europeans are out of their minds.

 

[Grant]

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And each publication has the right to decide to censor what it deems offensive and not censor what it doesn't.

And be slaughtered by Muslims if they deem it offensive.

 

[Jack Hays]

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And each publication has the right to decide to censor what it deems offensive and not censor what it doesn't.

Especially if they are intimidated by terrorists.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

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And be slaughtered by Muslims if they deem it offensive.

Considering how many countries in North Africa, the Middle East, and south east Asia are in a state of chaos and near anarchy, it is no surprise that Europe is suffering collatoral damage

 

[Lutherf]

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Especially if they are intimidated by terrorists.

That would be the important distinction. Is it simple self censoring due to a sense of moral obligation or is it a decision made due to fear of retribution?

 

[Jack Hays]

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That would be the important distinction. Is it simple self censoring due to a sense of moral obligation or is it a decision made due to fear of retribution?

Bingo.

 

[Grant]

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Considering how many countries in North Africa, the Middle East, and south east Asia are in a state of chaos and near anarchy, it is no surprise that Europe is suffering collatoral damage

It's not 'collateral damage'. It is direct and deliberate.

 

[Jack Hays]

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It's not 'collateral damage'. It is direct and deliberate.

Yup. This was premeditated assassination.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

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Some feel we should not see either. https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/552814280471367680/photo/1

-- It looks like freedom of speech is officially dead in Europe.

There isn't a direct link showing this image on the Daily telegraph. You can use google image search and that image does not appear anywhere on the Daily Telegraph site.

What you will find however are these tweets on the Telegraph Website.

Tonight, I am Charlie.

 

[Declan]

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And each publication has the right to decide to censor what it deems offensive and not censor what it doesn't.

And those decisions have consequences. A racist troll got himself and a bunch of other people killed because of his decision to continue trolling the xenophobes he knew wanted him dead. A drug killer can be a murder victim of another drug dealer, but that doesn't make it any less foreseeable and avoidable with the decision to stop being a drug dealer while you still can, nor does it make the crime any less a murder.

 

[Jack Hays]

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And those decisions have consequences. A racist troll got himself and a bunch of other people killed because of his decision to continue trolling the xenophobes he knew wanted him dead. A drug killer can be a murder victim of another drug dealer, but that doesn't make it any less foreseeable and avoidable with the decision to stop being a drug dealer while you still can, nor does it make the crime any less a murder.

But why should you conflate the legitimate exercise of free speech with racist or criminal activity?

 

[Ockham]

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And those decisions have consequences. A racist troll got himself and a bunch of other people killed because of his decision to continue trolling the xenophobes he knew wanted him dead. A drug killer can be a murder victim of another drug dealer, but that doesn't make it any less foreseeable and avoidable with the decision to stop being a drug dealer while you still can, nor does it make the crime any less a murder.

Islam is not a race. Inferred in your post is "well, they had it coming" type of attitude, which is very disturbing.

If you do something that angers someone else and they kill you - whether your actions were proper or not - it seems your demise and the killers actions are fully justified. :shrug:

 

[Lutherf]

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And those decisions have consequences. A racist troll got himself and a bunch of other people killed because of his decision to continue trolling the xenophobes he knew wanted him dead. A drug killer can be a murder victim of another drug dealer, but that doesn't make it any less foreseeable and avoidable with the decision to stop being a drug dealer while you still can, nor does it make the crime any less a murder.

Interesting how you equate the free expression of political satire to crime.

 

[Wiggen]

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I always remember the unprecedented marches against the Iraq war, in the UK. Where the f... are the marches against the actions of ISIS ?

Paul

But that was different, Paul. You see you can always get protest marches against the 'evil' Americans. Against the beheaders and crucifiers? Not so much.

 

[Wiggen]

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Two men that walk into a building armed with automatic weapons and only kill ten were not well trained.

Who cares?

 

[Wiggen]

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Because a newspaper does not want to publish or spread offensive comics does not mean "freedom of speech" is dead.

Yes, in fact that's exactly what it means.

 

[Jack Hays]

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Two men that walk into a building armed with automatic weapons and only kill ten were not well trained.

They killed twelve. And how do you know they did not have a list? And were not interested in killing any but those on the list?

 

[Captain America]

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Two men that walk into a building armed with automatic weapons and only kill ten were not well trained.

Depends on how many people are in the building I suppose.

 

[Wiggen]

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Where's Pete EU to post some atrocity committed by Jews or Christians who didn't like a cartoon being published? Come on, Pete!

 

[matchlight]

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I wonder if some people in France aren't thinking of the way their country dealt with Algerian terrorists in the 1950's. French forces used far harsher methods than anything America-hating leftist limpwrists are whining about our interrogators having used--and they got very good results. We will see what French counter-terrorist experts can find out about what organization the bastards who did this are part of. If they catch them, I hope they take the gloves off and make them tell everything they know. Only too bad they did away with the guillotine.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

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In honour of the artists killed today and for those cartoonists expressing solidarity.

 

[Flamethrower]

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Terrorism strike again in the heart of Paris, here video from the guns fight- VIDEO. Des images de l'attaque au siège de "Charlie Hebdo"

If the terrorits tried that here in my area, they'd have ended up like the James Gang at Northfield, and the Dalton Gang in Coffeyville.

Mostly dead at the hands of armed citizens.