Arpaio admits he hired PI to investigate judge's wife

[beefheart]

Arpaio admits he hired PI to investigate judge's wife

Sheriff Joe Arpaio knew that private agents had investigated U.S. District Judge G. Murray Snow's wife, the six-term lawman admitted under oath Thursday in an explosive diversion from this week's contempt of court proceedings.

It was Arpaio's second day on the stand in a civil contempt of court hearing, where he and a handful of his top aides are facing three broad allegations of defying Snow's orders, stemming from a racial-profiling suit.

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News that Arpaio, an elected official who was once the subject of an FBI investigation that he abused his law-enforcement power, decided to have someone investigate a federal judge who is overseeing efforts to reform the Sheriff's Office was met with gasps and murmurs in the downtown Phoenix courtroom.

Arpaio made the confession to Snow himself, after the judge questioned him about allegations made in a New Times article in June.

Snow took center stage after plaintiffs' and defense attorneys finished their examinations with Arpaio on civil-contempt of court allegations.

After a few questions on the contempt and immigration matters, Snow shifted his focus to some of Arpaio's more unorthodox operations.

Arpaio carefully skirted Snow's line questioning at the beginning, and only under intense scrutiny provided detail of the covert mission.

Arpaio said he that he had come into the possession of an email from a tipster who said he had met Snow's wife at a restaurant, and that she said Snow "wanted to do everything to make sure I'm not elected."

Arpaio said his counsel then hired a private investigator to look into the matter.

"Results confirmed that your wife was in that restaurant," Arpaio told Snow. "I guess (the investigator) talked to the witness, confirmed that that remark was made."

Snow additionally questioned Arpaio about county funds being paid to posse members conducting private investigations, and investigations into the Department of Justice, who is heading an ongoing racial-profiling lawsuit against the Sheriff's Office.

The answers to those questions are at this point unclear, based on Arpaio's responses.

This is the kind of crap Arpaio has done for over 20 years. Add to it all the lost lawsuits over deaths in his jails, and for using his office for vendetta politics (like arresting the owners of a newspaper in the middle of the night, in front of cameras to intimidate them...that cost 4 million bucks) and all the other nonsense (birther posse), and finally, people are beginning to see this corrupt fraud for what he is.

He has cost my county dozens of millions of dollars, he is finding out now that you actually have to follow the law yourself. This is a civil hearing to determine if a criminal hearing is needed, appears to be a slam dunk. Then the fun begins, hopefully they toss this POS in prison.

 

[azgreg]

He announced the other day he will seek re-election next year. Has anybody ever ran for Sherriff from prison before?

 

[beefheart]

He announced the other day he will seek re-election next year. Has anybody ever ran for Sherriff from prison before?

When he ran last time, I was working at the place where his opponent Penzone used to work, his goons tried to get private info on him from us, because Arpaio was a good friend of the head of the BOD and the founders of the non profit. Which is about par, it was a very very corrupt and sleazy non profit. Place was losing millions each year, but the millionaire founders each took a $250,000 salary, and they barely even worked.

It will be a good day when he gets tossed in prison, then he won't have the power to blackmail anyone, and the stories that come out will astound and amaze.

 

[Lutherf]

Arpaio admits he hired PI to investigate judge's wife




This is the kind of crap Arpaio has done for over 20 years. Add to it all the lost lawsuits over deaths in his jails, and for using his office for vendetta politics (like arresting the owners of a newspaper in the middle of the night, in front of cameras to intimidate them...that cost 4 million bucks) and all the other nonsense (birther posse), and finally, people are beginning to see this corrupt fraud for what he is.

He has cost my county dozens of millions of dollars, he is finding out now that you actually have to follow the law yourself. This is a civil hearing to determine if a criminal hearing is needed, appears to be a slam dunk. Then the fun begins, hopefully they toss this POS in prison.

So he hired a PI to see if the judge was actually using his authority to influence a political campaign? That seems pretty reasonable to me.

 

[beefheart]

So he hired a PI to see if the judge was actually using his authority to influence a political campaign? That seems pretty reasonable to me.

No, he used county money to spy on a judge's family to find blackmail material. This is the crap Arpaio does. He needs to be tossed in prison.

And, today, a whole new lawsuit. He raided a business and had the owners arrested, saying they were hiring illegals and getting them fake ID's. Except they weren't, and all charges dropped against them. This one will cost a few million more.

 

[mike2810]

No, he used county money to spy on a judge's family to find blackmail material. This is the crap Arpaio does. He needs to be tossed in prison.

And, today, a whole new lawsuit. He raided a business and had the owners arrested, saying they were hiring illegals and getting them fake ID's. Except they weren't, and all charges dropped against them. This one will cost a few million more.

Do you have a source that states "county money" was used?

From the article, "Arpaio said his counsel then hired a private investigator to look into the matter." , Now what the article doesn't state is if the counsel is his private counsel or the MCSO counsel.

 

[beefheart]

Do you have a source that states "county money" was used?

From the article, "Arpaio said his counsel then hired a private investigator to look into the matter." , Now what the article doesn't state is if the counsel is his private counsel or the MCSO counsel.

Not sure, we will find out, but honestly, it doesn't matter, he has admitted guilt, and there are some more bombshells coming out. This clown needs to be thrown in prison.

 

[VanceMack]

Its funny how desperate people are to make this mean something. Yet...from the article...

"The significance of Arpaio's revelation about the private investigator remains to be seen."

In other words...Snow can attack Arpaio...Arpaio cant defend himself. Sheriff Joe isnt very popular among liberals. Course...thats what happens when you dare to actually enforce the law.

 

[Kobie]

Its funny how desperate people are to make this mean something. Yet...from the article...

"The significance of Arpaio's revelation about the private investigator remains to be seen."

In other words...Snow can attack Arpaio...Arpaio cant defend himself. Sheriff Joe isnt very popular among liberals. Course...thats what happens when you dare to actually enforce the law.

Enforce, break ... same difference, right?

DOJ Uncovers Rampant Lawbreaking By Sheriff Joe Arpaio Despite His Stonewalling | ThinkProgress

 

[beefheart]

Its funny how desperate people are to make this mean something. Yet...from the article...

"The significance of Arpaio's revelation about the private investigator remains to be seen."

In other words...Snow can attack Arpaio...Arpaio cant defend himself. Sheriff Joe isnt very popular among liberals. Course...thats what happens when you dare to actually enforce the law.

I live in Maricopa county, he has cost us dozens of millions, and more coming. Means something to me, he is a piece of waste. He is corrupt, you don't know the full story, and there are lots of stories. He thinks he is above the law, people have died in tent city (denied insulin, beaten by guards, choked to death) and it has cost us millions of dollars. He is a slimy goon. You just eat the PR he feeds you, but, if you read up, you will learn.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Its funny how desperate people are to make this mean something. Yet...from the article...

"The significance of Arpaio's revelation about the private investigator remains to be seen."

In other words...Snow can attack Arpaio...Arpaio cant defend himself. Sheriff Joe isnt very popular among liberals. Course...thats what happens when you dare to actually enforce the law.

You really don't understand it, Vance. We live it. We pay for it. Arpaio is costing us tens of millions of dollars. He is an embarrassment to Maricopa. What you are reading and likely what you know is a smidgeon of the story.

 

[beefheart]

You really don't understand it, Vance. We live it. We pay for it. Arpaio is costing us tens of millions of dollars. He is an embarrassment to Maricopa. What you are reading and likely what you know is a smidgeon of the story.

Yep, remember when he had his opponent Nick Tarr arrested for impersonating a police officer? Nick was wearing pink underwear, a fake deputy shirt and a cowboy hat, and a stage badge. Oh, and it was on Halloween....that was a few hundred thousand bucks.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Yep, remember when he had his opponent Nick Tarr arrested for impersonating a police officer? Nick was wearing pink underwear, a fake deputy shirt and a cowboy hat, and a stage badge. Oh, and it was on Halloween....that was a few hundred thousand bucks.

I remember when he got a butt whipping by a hair dresser in a restaurant parking lot.

 

[beefheart]

I remember when he got a butt whipping by a hair dresser in a restaurant parking lot.

LOL

And the random police stops he wanted to put in at all entry points into the county, and how he wanted the New Times to give him a list of every single IP address and name of anyone that read the story that published his home address, or when he set up that dumb kid and made it look like he was going to kill him with a pipe bomb..his agents gave him the pipe bomb parts and talked him into it...that cost us a lot of $$$ etc, etc, etc.

He is a disgrace.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Don't forget Arpaio and Steven Seagal using a tank to arrest a **** fighter. The county damn sure couldn't have done it without Seagal. And the tank? Get outta here! Who would arrest a chicken fighter without a tank? Are you kidding? The entire county was afraid to go outside until that dangerous sumbitch was off the street. :lamo

 

[beefheart]

And the time Scott Norberg got choked to death, and his larynx went missing after the autopsy? Or Charles Agster, a mentally retarded adult who was choked to death in the restraint chair, or Brian Crenshaw, in for shoplifting who was found in his cell with a broken neck, Arpaio said he fell off his bunk, a whole 4 foot drop.

So many Arpaio horror stories. People are finally seeing the monster that he is.

 

[Risky Thicket]

I don't know about you, but I am damn sure glad he raided Chuy's and arrested all the illegals. It was getting to the point where the only place in Phoenix where anglos could get a decent $75 lunch was the Phoenician and Durant's.

Imagine eating in a restaurant with illegals cooking food! Sheriff Joe sure knew where to look and didn't bother wasting his time raiding eateries in the Biltmore or downtown Scottsdale where the high rollers eat and play. :roll:

 

[winston53660]

I don't know about you, but I am damn sure glad he raided Chuy's and arrested all the illegals. It was getting to the point where the only place in Phoenix where anglos could get a decent $75 lunch was the Phoenician and Durant's.

Imagine eating in a restaurant with illegals cooking food! Sheriff Joe sure knew where to look and didn't bother wasting his time raiding eateries in the Biltmore or downtown Scottsdale where the high rollers eat and play. :roll:

Chuy's Tex-Mex?

 

[Risky Thicket]

Chuy's Tex-Mex?

Yes. As far as I know Arpaio's raids closed all the Chuy's in Phoenix.

 

[beefheart]

Yes. As far as I know Arpaio's raids closed all the Chuy's in Phoenix.

Well, he is going to cost us millions with the Uncle Sam's restaurant case.

 

[winston53660]

Yes. As far as I know Arpaio's raids closed all the Chuy's in Phoenix.

What a dick. I love Chuy's there is one down the street from me here in Dallas. It started in Austin.

 

[Risky Thicket]

I was incorrect. Arpaio did not raid Chuy's, it was the feds.

 

[PoS]

My aunt (who sends me care packages and carries two Glocks) is a member of his volunteer posse so I wont say anything bad about him.

 

[joko104]

From the article:

"Arpaio said he that he had come into the possession of an email from a tipster who said he had met Snow's wife at a restaurant, and that she said Snow "wanted to do everything to make sure I'm not elected."

Arpaio said his counsel (attorney) then hired a private investigator to look into the matter.

"Results confirmed that your wife was in that restaurant," Arpaio told Snow. "I guess (the investigator) talked to the witness, confirmed that that remark was made."


The Sheriff did not use a deputy. He didn't do anything. His lawyer did. The lawyer PROPERLY had a private investigator investigate the accusation against the judge and that was ENTIRELY legitimate to do. He had been informed that the Federal judge's wife had told someone the Judge is has pre-decided to try to get the Sheriff removed from office. That indicates both gross misconduct by the judge AND is absolute grounds for recusal - forced if need be - of that federal judge.

The article goes on to say that the private investigator confirmed the federal judge's wife was there and confirmed the witness claims that is what the federal judge's wife said. Accordingly, the correct next step is to call that person and the judge's wife as witnesses in a motion for the federal judge to recuse himself or be forcibly removed from the case if not.

 

[mike2810]

Not sure, we will find out, but honestly, it doesn't matter, he has admitted guilt, and there are some more bombshells coming out. This clown needs to be thrown in prison.

News report I heard was the reason he hired the PI was someone overheard the judges wife state at a restaurant that her husband was going to do everything in his power to ensure Arpaio is not reelected. The PI did confirm the wife was there.

Now if the story is true, then the judge has some explaining to do. Possible recluse himself.

I do think its time Joe retires. But hey, so should a great number of the county politicians. (thank God , Mary Rose Wilcox is out, never met an illegal she didn't support or like).

Here is a prediction for you. Arpaio retires, resigns, is not reelected in the near future. New sheriff closes tent city. Ask the county supervisors where they want the inmates housed. Oh by the way, MCSO needs millions for a larger new prison, more guards, taxes in Maricopa will go up to fund MCSO.

I disagree with you that it doesn't matter how is paying the PI. If its tax dollars then I think JA is totally wrong. if its from his re-election funds, that may be a violation. Don't know enough of what the money can be used for . If its his own money. it is no different than you hiring a PI to investigate something.