Arizona voting data taken to so-called 'lab' in remote Montana

[j-mac]

I thought of that, so I had them all replaced with carbon steel.

Lol...Aren't you a pretty girl?...

 

[Luce]

Lol...Aren't you a pretty girl?...

What's it like being so petty?

 

[j-mac]

What's it like being so petty?

IDK...Find a mirror.. lol

 

[Rogue Valley]

As I say, I wouldn't believe them no matter what they say.

This has been a farce all along.

Agreed. "Chain of Custody" best practices has not been followed.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Bamboo ballots don't exist, manufacturer says, as Arizona auditors search for "watermarks"

https://www.salon.com/2021/06/23/bamboo-ballots-dont-exist-manufacturer-says-as-arizona-auditors-search-for-watermarks/ 6/23/21 On Tuesday night, CNN reporter Kyung Lah interviewed the chief executive behind the company tasked with producing the ballots for Maricopa County, Arizona, who...

debatepolitics.com

 

[post]

They are examining ballots for indications that they could be forgeries. Wouldn't that be a good thing to check? If nothing else, they can definitively state 'the paper used for ballots was not consistent with paper imported from China' and put the theory to bed. What's wrong with that?

They don't do this by 'sniffing' the ballots.

What they're doing is undermining faith in U.S. election integrity in exchange for conning those who have rejected all but RWE information sources, out of their money. They are successfully raising more funds than they are expending... that's it, "that's all, volks!"

You're in a sealed bubble, AFA information non-cultists are exposed to. All of this is a continuation of the Cons of the confidence men you've given yourself over to. Normal people notice that "the con" always is executed in similar fashion, "Trump University, "Build that Wall", "Stop the Steal"!

You're convinced cyber ninjas' "audit" is different. You're willing to carry out Putin's playbook by supporting this grifter nonsense.

Fact check: QAnon watermarked ballot conspiracy theory is ...

Fact check: False QAnon-related conspiracy theory claims Arizona ballots are secretly watermarked

Social media users resurrected the QAnon-related watermarked ballot claim amid an audit in Arizona. This conspiracy theory is still false.

www.usatoday.com

Apr 28, 2021; In November USA TODAY interviewed Jeff Ellington, president and chief executive officer of Runbeck Election Services, the printing company that produced the most ballots for the 2020 election...

Arizona auditors near finish of hand recount as ... - cnn.com

Arizona auditors near finish of hand recount as out-of-state GOP pilgrimages continue

Arizona's problem-plagued audit has finished its hand recount of most of the 2.1 million ballots cast in Maricopa County last November, with just braille ballots and those that had to be duplicated because they were damaged left to count, an audit spokesman said Monday.

www.cnn.com

Jun 14, 2021 Jeff Ellington, the CEO of Runbeck Election Services, the company that manufactured Maricopa County's ballots, said in an interview Monday that he has no idea what auditors are looking for on the ...

MSN

June 24, 2021
A report released by a Republican-led committee in the Michigan Senate dismissed baseless conspiracy theories about the 2020 election promoted by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, saying the conservative businessman's claims were beyond "reasonable credulity."

Who is the Chinese mogul who owns the boat Steve Bannon ...

Who is the Chinese mogul who owns the boat Steve Bannon was busted on?

Multiple people familiar with the matter told NBC News there is a separate federal inquiry involving a company linked to both men, GTV Media Group.

www.nbcnews.com

On Thursday, Bannon was arrested by federal agents on that same yacht off Westbrook, Connecticut, and booked into jail on fraud charges. Though the charges appear to have nothing to do with the ...

Trump agrees to pay $25 million to settle Trump University ...

Trump agrees to pay $25 million to settle Trump University lawsuits

Donald Trump agreed on Friday to pay $25 million to settle fraud lawsuits over his Trump University real estate seminars, in what New York's attorney general called a "stunning reversal" for the U.S. president-elect.

www.reuters.com

Donald Trump agreed on Friday to pay $25 million to settle fraud lawsuits over his Trump University real estate seminars, in what New York's attorney general called a "stunning reversal" for the U ...

Trump Spins Court Ruling on Trump Foundation - FactCheck.org

Trump Spins Court Ruling on Trump Foundation - FactCheck.org

President Trump downplayed the findings in a case against his namesake charitable foundation, claiming the judge had found only “some small technical violations.” Actually, the judge ruled that Trump "breached his fiduciary duty" to the Donald J. Trump Foundation in service of his 2016...

www.factcheck.org

Trump Spins Court Ruling on Trump Foundation. President Donald Trump downplayed the findings in a case against his namesake charitable foundation, claiming the judge had found only "some small ...[/B]

 

[TimPatriot]

You do know the definition of "evidence", right? It's not the same as innuendo.

Evidence is not proof. Seems you are the one who is confused.

 

[Luce]

Evidence is not proof. Seems you are the one who is confused.

Hahahahahaha.

 

[Luce]

 

[dcsports]

What they're doing is undermining faith in U.S. election integrity in exchange for conning those who have rejected all but RWE information sources, out of their money. They are successfully raising more funds than they are expending... that's it, "that's all, volks!"

You're in a sealed bubble, AFA information non-cultists are exposed to. All of this is a continuation of the Cons of the confidence men you've given yourself over to. Normal people notice that "the con" always is executed in similar fashion, "Trump University, "Build that Wall", "Stop the Steal"!

You're convinced cyber ninjas' "audit" is different. You're willing to carry out Putin's playbook by supporting this grifter nonsense.

{CT items removed}

Actually, you are embracing the conspiracy theories here, and throwing in a lot of other unrelated items to try to deflect. Those on the fringe left who are embracing "there was nothing wrong! It was perfect! Don't check anything!" are just as nutty as some of the fringe items on the other side. Conducting an audit is a good thing - it helps support confidence in the election process, and is an important part of a process to ensure the process is transparent and secure for the next election

 

[post]

Actually, you are embracing the conspiracy theories here, and throwing in a lot of other unrelated items to try to deflect. Those on the fringe left who are embracing "there was nothing wrong! It was perfect! Don't check anything!" are just as nutty as some of the fringe items on the other side.

We'll just make believe it is somehow reasonable to ignore that Trump's campaign mngr, Manafort is a convicted felon, Bannon's (Trump campaign CEO and White House advisor attempting to attend NSC meetings!) fraud arrest, his judge said his acceptance of (a corrupt) pardon was admission of guilt, Trump's asst campaign mngr, Rick Gates's guilty plea, the successful fraud lawsuit against Trump University, the forced closing of "the Trump Foundation" Sidney Powell's answer to recent Voting System vendor's lawsuit,

Ukraine's Tymoshenko: 'gas princess', prisoner, and next ...
https://www.reuters.com ›
Mar 3, 2019 — Yulia Tymoshenko has been Ukraine's prime minister twice, was the ... president, Yanukovich jailed her and with the help of Paul Manafort, who ...

US judge dismisses indictment against ex-Trump ...​

https://www.reuters.com ›
"May 25, 2021 — But the judge said the pardon was valid, and that even if Bannon did not formally admit guilt "the issuance of a pardon may carry an imputation ..."

Sidney Powell acknowledges the “big lie” ...​

https://www.vox.com › sidney-powell-dominion-defam...
Mar 23, 2021 — In response to Dominion's defamation lawsuit, Powell's lawyers say "reasonable people" wouldn't buy her claims.

Michigan Republicans Call Mike Lindell Election Claims Beyond 'Reasonable Credulity'
June 24, 2021
A report by a Republican-led committee in the Michigan Senate dismissed baseless conspiracy theories about the 2020 election promoted by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, saying the conservative businessman's claims were beyond "reasonable credulity."

Editor's Thought Bubble: The #StopTheSteal audit was always going to be this way

Of course Senate Republicans hired a #StopTheSteal proponent to audit the election. This is a feature, not a bug, of the whole charade.

www.azmirror.com

April Fool's Day, 2021
" took less than an hour to find the multitude of tweets that the lead auditor, a Florida man named Doug Logan, had sent from a Twitter account that he deleted sometime in January. He frequently interacted with Big Lie hucksters of the highest order, including Sidney Powell, L. Lin Wood and Ron Watkins — a man so closely tied to QAnon and the websites that pushed the dangerous theory that many experts believe he likely was behind the whole thing. He repeatedly posted his own thoughts on the election being stolen and reposted others who asserted the same things.

He’ll now be paid $150,000 to “audit” an election he’s already concluded was stolen as part of a vast conspiracy. Senate Republicans are inviting this man, and what appears to be a cadre of like-minded fraudsters and liars, to spend 60 days with our ballots and voting machines so they can prove their case.

What will happen is a repeat of what this whole exercise in election conspiracies has been about: They will inevitably find something that is perfectly normal in election procedures, and then either misunderstand or misrepresent it so that it backs up the story they’ve told themselves about how Trump didn’t really lose. It will be done purely in bad faith and it will serve to undermine elections in Arizona and nationwide, hastening our nation’s fall into authoritarianism.

I hope every single Senate Republican can sleep at night knowing what they are doing. "

..and just crap all over your own reputation as you post empty criticism of those holding up your nonsense for
all readers to consider!

 

[dcsports]

We'll just make believe it is somehow reasonable {deflection to other topics removed}
{CT Items and unrelated links removed}

As I said. The CT position that there were no issues is just as nutty as some from people like Sydney Powell. We had a pandemic that resulted in a LOT of changes and moving pieces in this election. It would be irresponsible to not take a look at the process, identify where there were issues, and make improvements for the next one. That includes taking steps to reassure the public that any accusations have been reviewed and were unfounded. Why would the left be so resistant to that?

 

[mrjurrs]

This is actually a very interesting site - thanks for posting. I particularly was interested in the comments and seeing how the author responded. Seems to have some genuine interest in getting to the truth. Some of the commenters posted links to information refuting the author and supporting Frank's work.

I will dig into this more.

Thanks, looking forward to more info.

 

[post]

As I said. The CT position that there were no issues is just as nutty as some from people like Sydney Powell. We had a pandemic that resulted in a LOT of changes and moving pieces in this election. It would be irresponsible to not take a look at the process, identify where there were issues, and make improvements for the next one. That includes taking steps to reassure the public that any accusations have been reviewed and were unfounded. Why would the left be so resistant to that?

Because it isn't "the public' who need reassurance. The attack on the integrity of election results is obvious, corrupt, partisan, relentless, and Trump launched it well before the 2016 election and has never stopped!

US election 2016: Trump says election 'rigged at polling ... - BBC​

https://www.bbc.com › news › election-us-2016-37673...
Oct 17, 2016 — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says those who cast doubt on his claims that next month's US elections will be rigged are "so ...

Inside the ‘shadow reality world’ promoting the lie that the presidential election was stolen
Wealthy allies of former president Donald Trump have spent millions on films, rallies and other ... “The Deep Rig,” a film financed by former Overstock.com chief executive Patrick Byrne ... “I don't know if the November 2020 election will ever be gone,” said Houghton County ..
1 hour ago

Confidence man, Trump pisses all over the sidewalk, declares the liquid is lemonade and it becomes the task of reasonable people familiar with the obvious smell of piss and where it comes from, to taste the liquid, just to be sure, have it analyzed by a lab, just to be very, very sure.

Reuters
Rudy Giuliani is suspended from law practice over Trump ...
, June 24 - Rudy Giuliani's law license in New York state was suspended on Thursday, as a state appeals court found he had ... "We conclude that respondent's conduct immediately threatens the public interest and ... The court said Giuliani made numerous false statements about the ...
16 mins ago

If Trump and all those around him had any past history of spraying lemonade instead of urine, maybe your request would be reasonable, There is no predicate for your suspicions and the "burden" you describe to satisfy the concerns of those similarly troubled as you, aside from Trump and his team of liars to justify your concerns and certainly none to further inquire into certified election results. When there is any actual predicate, author a new thread linking the facts that demand further investigation.

It's spelled, "Sidney". Post a link to the background of who you consider the most credible and influential person who agrees with you.

 

[dcsports]

It's spelled, "Sidney". Post a link to the background of who you consider the most credible and influential person who agrees with you.
Quoting you to lessen the odds anyone will miss seeing how deep in it you are.

lol. You are trying very hard to deflect. Why is that?

To answer your question, we can start with Joe Biden, who recently released a plan to add $80 billion to the IRS to beef up their audit process for tax records. Nancy Pelosi - the "for the people act" "encourages risk limiting audits".

Seriously - audits are a part of life. Every reputable business conducts them. Why would we not conduct a review of such an important process?

 

[Brack]

So, if they find that the vote in that county was bogus, that’s proof to you that they are frauds? Who’s the cultist now?

Maricopa County had fair and honest election.
Our GOP Governor signed a bill into law back in March of 2019 expanding the voter ID law, which was in effect within this state for the 2020 election. Link
The Republicans won five of the six countywide seats within this county. The one Democrat who won countywide (Sheriff Penzone) received about 55,000 more votes than President Biden within this county. Dem Senator Kelly received 23,622 more votes than President Biden within this county.

 

[post]

lol. You are trying very hard to deflect. Why is that?

To answer your question, we can start with Joe Biden, who recently released a plan to add $80 billion to the IRS to beef up their audit process for tax records. Nancy Pelosi - the "for the people act" "encourages risk limiting audits".

Seriously - audits are a part of life. Every reputable business conducts them. Why would we not conduct a review of such an important process?

More projection from you.

January, 2021 :

Proposed law would allow Arizona Legislature to overturn ...​

https://tucson.com ›
Republican's proposal would allow Arizona Legislature to overturn presidential election results even after they are formally certified by the governor and ...

Shawnna Bolick, author of bill to reject voters' presidential choice, running to be top elections official

State Rep. Shawnna Bolick, who sponsored legislation earlier this year that would have allowed the legislature to reject voters’ selection in presidential races, is running to become Arizona’s top elections official.

www.azmirror.com

Shawnna Bolick, author of bill to reject voters’ presidential choice, running to be top elections official​

-June 22, 2021
https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php...-choice-running-to-be-top-elections-official/
Reuters
Rudy Giuliani is suspended from law practice over Trump ...
, June 24 - Giuliani's law license in New York state was suspended on Thursday, as a state appeals court found he had ... "We conclude that respondent's conduct immediately threatens the public interest and ... The court said Giuliani made numerous false statements ...
16 mins ago

US election 2016: Trump says election 'rigged at polling ... - BBC​

https://www.bbc.com ›
Oct 17, 2016 — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says those who cast doubt on his claims that next month's US elections will be rigged are "so ...

Inside the ‘shadow reality world’ promoting the lie that the presidential election was stolen
Wealthy allies of former president Donald Trump have spent millions on films, rallies and other ... “The Deep Rig,” a film financed by former Overstock.com chief executive Patrick Byrne ...
1 hour ago

 

[Brack]

Question - why not get behind the audit? If Biden is legit, it would be in your interest to prove it to the 50% plus of the country that questions it.

Previous real audits confirmed that President Biden's win within Maricopa County was legit. The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors did the right thing for refusing to let the conspiracy theorists and grifters hired by Fann use their facility to perform their bogus audit.

 

[dcsports]

More projection from you.

{non-answers removed}​

lol. So you are going to do the rubber band defense? I actually answered your question. Can you do the courtesy of answering mine?

 

[post]

As I said. The CT position that there were no issues is just as nutty as some from people like Sydney Powell. We had a pandemic that resulted in a LOT of changes and moving pieces in this election. It would be irresponsible to not take a look at the process, identify where there were issues, and make improvements for the next one. That includes taking steps to reassure the public that any accusations have been reviewed and were unfounded. Why would the left be so resistant to that?

https://www.mediaite.com › oan-host-calls-for-executio...​

3 hours ago — OAN's Pearson Sharp called for the execution of any “traitor” involved with what he described as a “carrying out a coup against the presidency.

Meet the propagandists and conspiracy theorists behind OAN

The president has taken a shine to the far-right network's fictional pro-Trump reports.

www.motherjones.com

"HONORABLE MENTIONS​

---

Pearson Sharp​

Sharp doesn’t have the same hoax spreading bonafides as some of his colleagues but has at least made himself, in propaganda parlance, a “useful idiot,” which counts for something..."

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

No matter how much you beg, none of us want to move to Canada….

Actually there wouldn't be any jobs for an additional 330,000,000 people.

However, if you prefer to have an electoral system that is characterized by blatant gerrymandering and not quite so blatant manipulation of the voters lists and slightly less blatant diddling with the mechanics of conducting the actual vote - all in order to try to ensure that "The Right Party" ALWAYS wins rather than changing the way that elections are conducted so as to ensure that the general populace has confidence that they are actually "free, fair, open, and honest elections" - fill your boots.

 

[dcsports]

{more unrelated links / CT stuff removed}​

Obviously you'd rather not have a conversation about this. Take care.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

In theory, that's done here. The reality is though that anyone invested enough in society to facilitate elections probably has some bias.

Absolutely agree that we need clear policies and procedures, with layers of transparency and accountability. That's what made many of the actions in the 2020 elections to limit (or prevent) meaningful observation so troubling. Secondarily, many of the changes to the rules 'on the fly' shouldn't have happened. And third - it absolutely makes sense that the legislatures are taking time now to clarify those procedures so we have a clear process going into 2022 and beyond.

Ideally, I think all the ballot counting should be like vegas - one person 'neutral' counting, and observers from both sides watching the process. That way people are limited in their ability to complain afterwards.

I'm not sure what you mean by "meaningful observation". As far as I know it does NOT include allowing "observers" to wander freely around the voting booths and actually watch the way that people vote - which is what "The Conservatives" appear to want.

Your last paragraph makes eminent sense (that's the way they do it in Canada). The observers MAY "challenge" any ballot and that ballot is set aside for review by others IMMEDIATELY. There is NEVER any discussion between the observer(s) and the counter(s) over WHY a ballot is "challenged" - nor, when the ballot is reviewed, is the reason for its challenge given to the reviewer(s).

 

[CaughtInThe]

Oh brother!... People are free to give their money to whomever they wish... Or, would you like to control that too?

oh, i love when dumbasses give their money to conmen.

 

[CaughtInThe]

God. I knew there were a ton of dumbasses and confederates in our country.

I didn't think they'd willingly marry themselves to our most famous yankee con man and crook (so he could make off with more of their $$$$).