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Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

Chappy

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Wow! Just, wow! This bill is a colossal error.
 
Chappy said:
Wow! Just, wow! This bill is a colossal error.
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Well, if the Democrats get a pass for the healthcare turd then Az. gets a pass on this IMO. It's a bad law but "something needed to be done", yall remember that right?
 
Early Arizonan reaction to the bill signing is dismay and vows to take the state to court.

 
You can't blame Arizona at all on this. I don't see the problem with it. If you are here illegally, what is wrong with a state picking up the slack for the federal government? After all, the costs for medical care, housing, crime, and public education associated with those that come here illegally is primarily born by the states, so why not let the states help enforce immigration law?

I am left of center on a lot of issues. But the fact is, we can't afford to provide education and healthcare for the kids of every illegal that makes it across the Sonora Desert.
 
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From what I understand about the bill I support it. Why not have a law to enforce laws? Arizona made a smart decision in passing this legislation. Crack down on illegal immigration and charge them with their crimes.
 
FANTASTIC!

Finally someone standing up to criminals!
 
Most voting Arizonans want the Mexicans to go home....so she didn't have much choice but to sign in. She would never retain office any other way.
 
I believe we will see massive displays of direct action against this law in the form of demonstrators refusing to hand over their papers. There will be boycotts and conferences and conventions will be canceled. This will be 1990 all over again.
 
Chappy said:
I believe we will see massive displays of direct action against this law in the form of demonstrators refusing to hand over their papers. There will be boycotts and conferences and conventions will be canceled. This will be 1990 all over again.
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Oh yes. We should just let people break our laws and to hell with the people who die along the way.
 
Chappy said:
I believe we will see massive displays of direct action against this law in the form of demonstrators refusing to hand over their papers. There will be boycotts and conferences and conventions will be canceled. This will be 1990 all over again.
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Great, they can go to jail for breaking the law and be exposed as people who support breaking immigration laws. Let them protest, I have no sympathy for them. What about the law abiding citizens or legal immigrants in Arizona? All Arizona is doing is making it a state offense to commit a federal crime, they are also taking measures to enforce the law. Is this a bad thing? If anything it's a wonderful thing. I applaud Arizona for passing this bold legislation :applaud
 

Law abiding citizens don't count. If they are robbed or killed thats just something you are going to have to accept. Didn't you get the memo?
 

This is why I find it hilarious when pro-illegals say illegal immigration a federal issue.If it was a federal issue then the federal should be picking up the tab for those things. But then again even if it is the feds picking up the tab it is still tax payer money which comes form the states. So illegal immigration is a state problem.
 
Chappy said:
Wow! Just, wow! This bill is a colossal error.
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How is it a colossal error? And please none of that pro-illegals propaganda.
 
The issue is that in Arizona, you are now required by law to carry with you at all times proof of your citizenship or legal entry into the state and that a police officer can demand those papers for any reason; you are wearing the wrong sneakers; the shape of your hat suggests a foreign style, etc. I find it interesting that a non-Arizona drivers license may be insufficient proof that you are here legally.
 

Could you please specifically cite where the bill says that?
The sweeping legislation makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It would also require local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegally.
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This is from your own source, all I see in it is that the police now have the right to question people about their immigration status if they have a good reason to. There is nothing wrong with that in my opinion, in fact it's a good thing.
 
So, are there really people mad about a state passing a law that says people in the country illegally are breaking the law?
 
Chappy said:
Wow! Just, wow! This bill is a colossal error.
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So... enforcing the law is a colossal error?

Making something a state crime because the Fedgov isn't doing anything remotely effective is stupid?
 

The U.S. government sets immigration law. Not the states. It is a federal issue.
 
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Could you please specifically cite where the bill says that? …
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Let's see what the Cato Institute says …

 
It doesn't say that people are forced to carry those things with them at all times though. I think it's fine to have people validate themselves. All it's saying is that you must validate yourself before you are released and then lists what counts as acceptable validation.
 
Another question is how much safer will Arizonans be with new law being enforced …

“The Arizona immigration law will likely hinder federal law enforcement from carrying out its priorities of detaining and removing dangerous criminal aliens. With the strong support of state and local law enforcement, I vetoed several similar pieces of legislation as Governor of Arizona because they would have diverted critical law enforcement resources from the most serious threats to public safety and undermined the vital trust between local jurisdictions and the communities they serve. I support and am actively working with bipartisan members of Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform at the federal level because this issue cannot be solved by a patchwork of inconsistent state laws.” — Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Gov. Jan Brewer's predecessor as Arizona governor†​
 
Reasons to never go to Arizona:

[X] Crazy hot.
[X] Can't find a good beach anywhere.
[X] Immigration laws which make everyone and anyone an illegal immigrant.

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Arizona is the new Alaska only Alaska wins cause they have glaciers.
 
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