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Are you saved?

Are you saved

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we can't change the Truth regarding Jesus being fully God, i have my opinion and you need to seek God concerning this issue.

so far you have an Intellectual knowledge of christianity and can't answer simple questions. let's move beyond that stage into a full faith in our God Jesus Christ.

edit, Jesus did God sized things like forgiving the sins of the World and providing us Salvation to those who believe, his miracles include raising from the dead and healing others.

blessing Logic.


0001_17.gif ...Cartoon man knew all kinds of stuff, and was good on the forums with plenty of likes, however he flunked Faith 101, and God gave him his opinion. don't be this guy, get yur faith together and stop beating around the Atheist bush.

bye.

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Revelation said:
that is why i would like to answer that way, i have my opinion

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Ok, Rev.

Thanks for being honest enough to divulge that your religious views are merely your personal "opinion", as opposed to those personal religious views being factual "Truth".

Have a nice night.
 
Looks like we might have someone deny the God that they not only claim to believe in and assault us with cartoons ?
 
Metanoia said:
Looks like we might have someone deny the God that they not only claim to believe in and assault us with cartoons ?
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Met, what bugs me about this kind of thing is that people would rather die than think, so they do. then God sends them off to the Toaster.

they could read/pray/study for themselves but too much bother.

i make it SIMPLE, with cartoons and short answers and still don't get it. check this thread and you tell me if Jesus is God.


Key Verses Supporting Jesus' Divinity
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." This verse refers to Jesus as "the Word" and directly states that the Word was God. The context of the chapter makes it clear that "the Word" refers to Jesus.

John 10:30
"I and my Father are one." Here, Jesus himself claims unity with God the Father.

John 8:58
"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." In this verse, Jesus uses the divine name "I AM," echoing God's self-revelation to Moses in Exodus 3:14.

Colossians 2:9
"For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." This verse affirms that the fullness of deity dwells in Jesus in bodily form.

Other Supporting Verses

Philippians 2:5-6
"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God." Hebrews 1:8
"But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Here, God the Father addresses the Son (Jesus) as "God."

John 20:28
"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." Thomas, one of Jesus' disciples, directly addresses Jesus as "my God." While these verses strongly support the doctrine of Jesus' divinity, it's important to note that the concept of the Trinity (God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) is a theological interpretation based on the totality of biblical teachings rather than a single explicit statement. https://www.perplexity.ai/search/kjv-full-verse-does-the-bible-OPD73xO1S4m2XzG_QgkZOw



...Cartoon man is kinda daft, he know how to collect a pay check, but that is about it. so here he goes, guess he was an Ignorant Atheist, thinking 'dead is all done' kind of thing.

see the problem here people? we would rather die than think, so that is what we will do. every. single. time.

just stop it.

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Yes. I saved myself from believing in things that are totally made up.
 
Revelation said:
Logic, we are discussing Salvation currently, not the Trinity.

of course i support the Trinity and always have. the issue at stake on this thread today is just ditching the atheism and finding God.

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Oh my goodness.

You can't apply logic to faith based religion. It defies the whole idea of "faith based"
 

Thanks for explaining where you're coming from.
 
GIJane said:
Oh my goodness.

You can't apply logic to faith based religion. It defies the whole idea of "faith based"
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Lol - what do you think atheism is, if not faith-based?

Anyway, although it can be - Christianity isn't simply faith-based.
We've already shown that, many times in various thread.
You might have missed them.

I suggest you try to catch up by reading the OP of this thread:


THE EVIDENCES FOR GOD

Contrary to what some keep insisting, that there is no evidence.............................. there are actually many evidences for GOD. And all these evidences corroborate with one another - strengthening what is already partly established - to form a powerful presentation of an undeniable...
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And just to show you that it's atheism that's faith-based and an irrational position..................kindly answer the question asked in the OP of this thread:

A Tough Question For Atheists

The National Academy of Sciences also says: Science is not the only way of acquiring knowledge about ourselves and the world around us. Humans gain understanding in many other ways, such as through literature, the arts, philosophical reflection, and religious experience...
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Although many atheists have been dancing around this question, no one has ever given a SINGLE answer to the question.
 
Are you saved, is an interesting question. Open to many interpretations. Personally, I no longer believe in two thousand year old fairy tales, nor in the many immoral charlatans that seem to want to lead us these days. In my view, that makes me saved because my logical brain explains to me what I want to know, and how I should act. I don't need external controls to tell me those things.
 
You gotta keep coming back to Jesus and keep working with the Holy Spirit as you go. Nobody will be perfect in this life though.
 
Worry about yourself & leave me alone.
 
Daisy said:
6 but have fallen away,+ it is impossible to revive them again to repentance," Hebrews 6:4-6
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Those who have "tasted" the free gift of the Holy Spirit is not the same thing as those same people making a spiritual commitment.

They were never truly saved. Can't lose what you never had.

Some examples of those in Hebrews 6: 4-6 are listed upthread in the Parable of the Four Soils.


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Not true..."fallen away" means exactly that...Paul here is referring to some who had fallen away, or apostatized from the Christian faith....they had knowingly made the choice to become apostates, even though they had been “once enlightened"...
 

i answered the question in the way i know the Truth concerning the Trinity.

concerning how God will judge is yet to be seen Logic, it is kinda like asking me when the Rapture will come. well kinda soon along with WW three and whatever else dee cee is up to.

basically i leave God's job up to God, as they say in the trades: 'not my yob'. well there you go, maybe somebody smarter than me knows ????

Logician Man said:
"Can one achieve "Salvation" if he/she does not believe in a Triune Christian God?"
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good morning Logic, i thought about your question and tried to answer above. some things only God knows, so i find my place at the foot of the Cross and cry out to God for mercy.

Logic, there is room for you at the foot of the cross too, we saved you a place. best to just weep over your sin and repent of it all; just Junk it, your Pride isn't worth a nickle anyway. no one cares; however Jesus loves you and died for you. it is all in my Comics so plain to see...


...Bible girl is up this morning spreading the message; she is unimpressed with your Intellectual attainments and atheism. she just spreads the message to those who want forgiveness of sins and Salvation.

blessings.


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Daisy said:
Not true..."fallen away" means exactly that...Paul here is referring to some who had fallen away, or apostatized from the Christian faith....they had knowingly made the choice to become apostates, even though they had been “once enlightened"...
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Hebrews was written to the Hebrews according to the Author; but why was it written. ???

well the church was being persecuted and the Jewish believers were abandoning the faith, going back to their old religion of Judaism. Paul warned about this and said this was a fatal error for them to do this. we christians can't bring them back cause they gone; however with God nothing is Impossible.

nothing.

a theologian has interpreted this to mean only God can bring them back, so i go with that. i pray for people i have known for decades that have fallen away and i never see again. God can bring them back; just start there and see if that works for you.

a book i study on these issues delves into this, fairly long as the Revision is 500 pages....


...this one is a quicker read, the original by Shank who was 'once saved always saved' but he knows Salvation should lead to the narrow way prescribed by Jesus, Galatians, James et al. in his research as a bible professor he faced the truth and was kicked out of his job as a teacher and a pastor.

so he paid a price that most will not pay. i am the same way, the Truth is more important than just 'go along, get along' mentality. if you have back bone people, this is your book. i have others but this one will clean the clocks of those who are honest and wanna know.


...this revision came out this year and is longer, i use both editions and recommend them both starting with the original.

Salvation is very basic, miss that and you miss everything. get Salvation that leads to holy living and you Found It all they way to Gold Street.

be careful, most people have a scripture twister built into their theology that says we can live however we want to. the devil has been preaching that since forever but it fails at judgement day.

Salvation road is a daily walk with Jesus, initially you come to the Cross and repent, born again. ok, but live for Jesus then, don't go back to the World of Sin et al.

how simple can it be?

read Galatians 5 for a 101 start on this...


1 Corinthians 6:9-10 states: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Similarly, Galatians 5:19-21 declares: "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."


of course some will put this in the Scripture Twister for amazing results, but i don't as we should stand by the Truth.

blessings.

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Daisy said:
Not true..."fallen away" means exactly that...Paul here is referring to some who had fallen away, or apostatized from the Christian faith....they had knowingly made the choice to become apostates, even though they had been “once enlightened"...
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I'll leave this for your consideration.

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The second interpretation is within the link

Does Hebrews 6:4-6 mean we can lose our salvation? | GotQuestions.org

Does Hebrews 6:4-6 mean we can lose our salvation? Is Hebrews 6:4-6 referring to believers or unbelievers?
www.gotquestions.org
 

interesting read. i feel we must look to Jesus as the good Shepherd because sheep are DUMB, they get lost.

Jesus leaves the 99 to go after the dumbest sheep and rescues them which is impossible for us to do.

try going after the Atheists here and try to convince them of their need of Faith, not something i can do. but they may just go to bible church as a last resort with God working on their heart.

they stumble down the isle and cry out to God from the Mourner's Bench or a pew some place..........God meets with them. God is not willing that any should perish but all come to repentance.



2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." .
well there you go: the Love of God the Great shepherd of the sheep: not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." .


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...and don't forget the kids either, starts there as it did with me.


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Not sur how you get that, BUT from the American Atheists web site:

Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in gods.​

Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejectio proof in an of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
As to myself, I consider myself as being Agnostic or Deist as many of the framers were. I just can't subscribe to a book written by men to fulfill the needs of men and calling it Religion.

Over the history of man, A God or Gods was to explain things they couldn't understand. The Bible is no different.

And just to show you that it's atheism that's faith-based and an irrational position.
If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.

Christianity is absolutely faith based. You talk about Religion like The Bible PROVES in itself what it says.



Hebrews 11:6 ESV / 3,251 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

Romans 10:17 ESV / 3,008 helpful votes
So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.

Hebrews 11:1 ESV / 2,925 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

Mark 11:22-24 ESV / 2,080 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

NOW, I'm done.
 
Revelation said:
interesting read. i feel we must look to Jesus as the good Shepherd because sheep are DUMB, they get lost.
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You've raised sheep?
Revelation said:
Jesus leaves the 99 to go after the dumbest sheep and rescues them which is impossible for us to do.
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The 'dumbest' sheep?
Revelation said:
try going after the Atheists here and try to convince them of their need of Faith, not something i can do. but they may just go to bible church as a last resort with God working on their heart.
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God doesn't work, he lives on welfare.
Revelation said:
they stumble down the isle and cry out to God from the Mourner's Bench or a pew some place..........God meets with them. God is not willing that any should perish but all come to repentance.
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Hubris, pretending to know what a non-entity wants.
 


Those juvenile rebuttals have all been rebutted.


Christianity ABSOLUTELY CAN BE ALL faith-based!
BUT................it doesn't have to be!


Why?

D I S C E R N M E N T.


can you comprehend that?




Of course you're done.
Because you know I'm going to ask for the answer as to the basis for atheism!

If you practice discernment - you know you got nothing but your faith in it.

There is nothing you can give to support atheism! Not a single basis for it!
Thus, it's an irrational position.


All atheists can blurt out is the pathetic................................. "unless I am given an objective evidence for God....blah-blah-blah!"
Well - there are objective reasons why science has not dismissed the possibility of GOD!
So, there!



Therefore, atheist ought to scrap that silly argument on, "Christianity being all faith-based."
Because, it's atheism that's perfectly fitting that profile!

Hahaha- if atheists don't agree with science - what do you have to wave around?
NONE!

Christianity and other Abrahamic religions, now OWN science for support!





Bye.


Come back after you've thought things out.
 
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poppopfox said:
You've raised sheep?

The 'dumbest' sheep?

God doesn't work, he lives on welfare.

Hubris, pretending to know what a non-entity wants.
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If atheism is an irrational position - we can clearly see who are the dumbest sheep in this world......


We even have something here to prove it.
Here's one.



ANSWERS TO ATHEIST NONSENSE

There is no god.. next tough question? Answer: Many keep regurgitating the same thing, even when it has already been responded to. Kinda like they think, repetition will eventually - miraculously - reveal a different answer! Post #731...
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poppopfox said:
God doesn't work, he lives on welfare.
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God's always at work!
Quietly.



What are you on about?

You have been on welfare!
Since the moment you were conceived!






poppopfox said:
Hubris, pretending to know what a non-entity wants.
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hahahaha- contradicting yourself in one post! Hahahaha
What a feat!


So - you pretending to know God doesn't work, and is on welfare?

I suppose we can call your argument as another......................................... "mindless bleating?"







I suppose you can wear that "hubris" hat quite proudly now.
You've just shown us how you earned it.
 
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The thing about atheism is you want find any other group who works so hard trying to prove something doesn’t exist.

Even Satan believes in God.
 
More testimony on the power of being saved.

There are two groups of people here. Those who "shrink back" and those who have faith and ARE SAVED.


Hebrews 10:35-39

36 You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.

37 For,

“In just a little while,
he who is coming will come
and will not delay.” f

38 And,

“But my righteous g one will live by faith.
And I take no pleasure
in the one who shrinks back.” h

39 But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved.
 
tosca1 said:
God's always at work!
Quietly.
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Do you check his time card?
tosca1 said:
What are you on about?
You have been on welfare!
Since the moment you were conceived!
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What are you on about?
tosca1 said:
hahahaha- contradicting yourself in one post! Hahahaha
What a feat!
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Show the contradiction if you please.
tosca1 said:
So - you pretending to know God doesn't work, and is on welfare?
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tosca1 said:
I suppose we can call your argument as another......................................... "mindless bleating?"
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Didn't make an argument. Where did you see one?
tosca1 said:
I suppose you can wear that "hubris" hat quite proudly now.
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English picked up both the concept of hubris and the term for that particular brand of cockiness from the ancient Greeks, who considered hubris a dangerous character flaw capable of provoking the wrath of the gods. In classical Greek tragedy, hubris was often a fatal shortcoming that brought about the fall of the tragic hero. Typically, overconfidence led the hero to attempt to overstep the boundaries of human limitations and assume a godlike status, and the gods inevitably humbled the offender with a sharp reminder of their mortality. hubris
tosca1 said:
You've just shown us how you earned it.
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What a sensitive little being you are. I know many Christians with a sense of humor and can take a joke.
Here's a story that might benefit someone like yourself -
 
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