That one only applies to conservatives and libertarians.
That one only applies to conservatives and libertarians.
You're exactly right but the catch is that lobbying is applied to the rights of free speech, assembly, and redress and it would be extremely tricky to do any meaningful reform that also happens to be constitutional.
My opinion is that to successfully reign in lobbying it will take a majority in congress with the fortitude and desire to word a lobby reform bill that would give the people at large control back and stand up to court scrutiny. What I think would have to happen is that professional lobbying would have to be designated as a commercial venture and therefore less protected than political speech freedoms than people gathering to speak to politicians independently.
why are you baffled? i think that's normal. you don't see multi millionaries out there marching with the tea partiers......wonder why that is?
GE plays down report that chief Jeffrey Immelt is 'worried about China' and President Obama
...In a statement, GE said: "The comments attributed to Jeff Immelt by the FT were taken out of context and, in some instances, inaccurately reported. Mr Immelt's comments at a private dinner focused on the relationship between business and government in general and did not single out President Obama. Mr Immelt also discussed the attractiveness and importance of China as a market for GE."
If that's your best retort Ms "business owner", then you are finished.
The White House Against The World - IBD - Investors.com
Adios. :2wave:
many business leaders are saying that this is the most business unfriendly administration since Carter.
Might want to watch your sources, Gill...
Not so fast...
The problem business has with Obama is that he isn't leading. He's seeing which way the poitical winds are going to blow so that he can massage a message before it comes out. He has to be VERY circumspect about everything because the minute he opens his mouth there is a slew of far lafties screaming that it isn't liberal enough, and a horde of conservatives screaming "COMMIE" and shouting him down without even doing him the courtesy of hearing him out. Businesses are sitting on the sidelines for the same reason consumers aren't out spending: anyone with a single brain cell in their head can see that NOTHING is happening in DC because congress can't find their ass with both hands and a roadmap, which means that Obama can't do anything either.
That isn't so difficult. Require congressmen and Senators to give equal time to citizens drawn at random from their constituency.
Are you kidding? Smooth talking professional politicians would cut them to pieces.
ricksfolly
Are you kidding? Smooth talking professional politicians would cut them to pieces.
ricksfolly
You used the FT story linked as support of your statement that "business leaders" (which Jeffery Immelt is one) are tired of Obama. GE released a statement saying that Mr. Immelt did NOT say that. So on eof the sources you used in support of your argument has been contradicted by the subject of the mis-quote. One out of four sources does not diminish (or increase) the actual accuracy of your statement, but it does diminish the perceived veracity.
Here's the latest version I've seen on what the Republicans are offering to America.
Funny how the "contract with America" doesn't have a place for John Q. Public to sign....
Any new contracts should be written by the public.
I've got a better idea for a contract with America:Ta-da!
- Whenever publicly discussing any kind of tax increase, or expansion of government authority, the Congress-critter so discussing must be absolutely naked.
- All Congress-critters must, at all other times, wear a clown suit complete with the shoes.
- Constituents may at any time express their displeasure with their Congress-critters by honking their rubber nose.
- Constituents may hold a no-confidence referendum at any time; if the vote is one of no confidence, a delegate will be sent to D.C. to publicly beat the Congress-critter in question with a rubber chicken.
- The penalty for failing to obey any of these rules is to be stripped naked, coated in honey, sprinkled with ants, then thrown in stocks in front of the capitol building, where the offender will then have their ass paddled by Justin Bieber.
actually it was. the contract from America was posted online and then people were invited to come vote on the issues they thought should be in it. after a set amount of time (a couple of months i think??? but that's a guess), the votes were tallied and ta-da, there you have the Contract From America
i would also like to see some pentalties for congresscritters who knowingly disobey the Constitution's strictures on limited government. maybe not necessarily death or even jail, but at least exile.
You used the FT story linked as support of your statement that "business leaders" (which Jeffery Immelt is one) are tired of Obama. GE released a statement saying that Mr. Immelt did NOT say that. So on eof the sources you used in support of your argument has been contradicted by the subject of the mis-quote. One out of four sources does not diminish (or increase) the actual accuracy of your statement, but it does diminish the perceived veracity.
Is that porn with a little horror, or horror with a little porn?GE/MSNBC/NBC/OBAMA Are all in bed together.
Here's the latest version I've seen on what the Republicans are offering to America.
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