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jokes aren't off limits, racial jokes should be off limits. but that's just me, and millions of other civilized people.
Well they didn't really preclude references to chimps when a big eared white fella was our president so why is Obama now off limits to the same jokes most every politician is subject to?
But you guys keep throwing out that race card...what you're going to accomplish is making an intelligenct and progressive political leader diminished to having his only legacy being that he was the first black man. That's gonna help you guys out a whole lot...LOL
I hadn't seen that about Michelle. What I have consistently seen is this:
It's hilarious! Michelle is not attractive at all. Perhaps if you didn't act like a blind partisan you would laugh, too.That's disgusting and not funny at all.
What about booing him?
To think that any of this is new is a result of very selective memory, or pure ignorance.Are we becoming a nation of incivility?
And other countries don't do this? Hope you don't really believe that they don't.hehe.
To the OP, we're a nation of "me-firsts"...
Everyone in this nation is looking out for their own interests (I can't say I blame them)... but they're willing to do some pretty ****ty things to achieve their ends.
I think of it like this... You notice how people behave in traffic? If they behave in traffic in such a way to people they absolutely don't know... for such small rewards.. How do you think they'll behave when larger personal rewards are possible?
Basically, I've given up on the population as a whole.
Are we becoming a nation of incivility?
First we had the Palin crowd shouting things like "Kill him" in regards to Barack Obama.
Then we had the folk that showed up at town hall meetings, yelling and disrupting.
Now we have Joe Wilson shouting out during the President's address to Congress, Serena Williams fighting with the line judge and Kayne West interrupting the VMA awards.
Are we seeing a new rise of incivility in America today?
It's hilarious! Michelle is not attractive at all. Perhaps if you didn't act like a blind partisan you would laugh, too.
how disengenuous.
It's hilarious! Michelle is not attractive at all. Perhaps if you didn't act like a blind partisan you would laugh, too.
:lol: so it wasn't when movies about assasinating bush came out, it wasn't when politicians on the left called troops nazis, murderers and war criminals, It wasn't when a hurricane was blamed on a president, it wasn't when protestors carried signs for troops to shoot thier officers.
nah, its now, that there is a "rise" :roll:
Are we becoming a nation of incivility?
First we had the Palin crowd shouting things like "Kill him" in regards to Barack Obama.
Then we had the folk that showed up at town hall meetings, yelling and disrupting.
Now we have Joe Wilson shouting out during the President's address to Congress, Serena Williams fighting with the line judge and Kayne West interrupting the VMA awards.
Are we seeing a new rise of incivility in America today?
:lol: so it wasn't when movies about assasinating bush came out, it wasn't when politicians on the left called troops nazis, murderers and war criminals, It wasn't when a hurricane was blamed on a president, it wasn't when protestors carried signs for troops to shoot thier officers.
nah, its now, that there is a "rise" :roll:
This is a good example of what I am talking about. People who point fingers rather than condemn those on their own side who act the asshole. That is the problem with America today, and why politics is continuing to get less and less civil.
Since I, like most men, don't pay much attention to dress, all I have to go on is her physical appearance, which isn't that great from where I'm sitting.The pic got a smile from me but i have to disagree on Michelle. She is very pretty and her dress sense is to die for.
Wouldn't that be right up your alley, so to speak?I think she is a classy looking woman, if a bit mannish.
You should have said this to the thread starter. Pointing me out, makes you look part of the problem you bring up. :shrug:
Whats racial about it?
I so wish we'd do something similar to the UK's Parilament and have a periodic question time.Meh, I wish we could shout and abuse our politicans in town meetings
I would say it is just a minority. I mean we have tossed abuse at our PM for weeks, it is a national past time watching him slowly collapse.
Off topic but i couldn't believe what Kanye did interrupting the poor girl.
no, thank you. i remember everything you mentioned.
i DO NOT remember a congressman calling a president a liar during an address to congress.
i don't NOT remember cries of "kill him" at a presidential rally
and i do NOT remember people calling our first lady a gorilla. do you?
jokes aren't off limits, racial jokes should be off limits. but that's just me, and millions of other civilized people.
Since I, like most men, don't pay much attention to dress, all I have to go on is her physical appearance, which isn't that great from where I'm sitting.
Come on Jall. You know there is a long history of white supremists claiming blacks are sub human monkeys/chimps/apes. There is a reason why some folks are sensative to comparisons of any black figures to monkeys/chimps/apes.
That said, I don't think every time we see it, its automatically racist. Bush was caricatured as a chimp based on physical features and I don't think its a stretch to make the same caricature for Obama based solely on his physical appearance.
I so wish we'd do something similar to the UK's Parilament and have a periodic question time.
For those who don't have a problem with these sort of caricatures, don't pretend there isn't a long history of racists using similar caricatures.
That's not a singularly black thing, much as race baiters and those who need race as a crutch in debate would like to annex it as their own. It was done to the Chinese, to the Irish, to Africans, to Europeans by other Europeans.
It's not a particularly black thing: its what humans do to each other...because monkeys are a step down on the ladder but not so absurd as calling another human a turtle or a goose.
I don't buy the whole poor, down trodden black experience of being called a monkey right before massa's whip came barreling down. That's over now.
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