Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes?

[jamesrage]

I was browsing the another thread and wondered if there are there any news stories of police or other law enforcement using gun registries to stop or solve crimes? We know about news stories of citizens using firearms to stop a crime. But what about police using gun registrations to prevent or stop a crime? Do these news stories exist?

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

I was browsing the another thread and wondered if there are there any news stories of police or other law enforcement using gun registries to stop or solve crimes? We know about news stories of citizens using firearms to stop a crime. But what about police using gun registrations to prevent or stop a crime? Do these news stories exist?

I RECALL that Hawaii has a registration scheme and a study was done and the conclusion was a big whopping NO.

anyone who understands crime realizes that if a Mope is found at a crime scene with a gun its because he has been caught or shot and gun registration is not going to be useful at all. Mopes don't leave guns at crime scenes that can be traced to them and if they have a record, they didn't buy it legally.

 

[Loki97]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

I RECALL that Hawaii has a registration scheme and a study was done and the conclusion was a big whopping NO.

anyone who understands crime realizes that if a Mope is found at a crime scene with a gun its because he has been caught or shot and gun registration is not going to be useful at all. Mopes don't leave guns at crime scenes that can be traced to them and if they have a record, they didn't buy it legally.

Hell, when I had 10k worth of guns stolen I couldn't even get the cops to use the serial numbers and description to check local gun stores to ascertain if anyone had sold any of them. Much of that probably had to do with the fact that it was a former cop's son who had stolen them but still the investigative aspects of police work are overrated. Most criminals are either caught in the act or because someone ratted them out to save their own behind.

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

Hell, when I had 10k worth of guns stolen I couldn't even get the cops to use the serial numbers and description to check local gun stores to ascertain if anyone had sold any of them. Much of that probably had to do with the fact that it was a former cop's son who had stolen them but still the investigative aspects of police work are overrated. Most criminals are either caught in the act or because someone ratted them out to save their own behind.

You are probably right about that. lots of nice recovered guns that have been reported stolen are not returned because the cops keep them

 

[MaggieD]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

I was browsing the another thread and wondered if there are there any news stories of police or other law enforcement using gun registries to stop or solve crimes? We know about news stories of citizens using firearms to stop a crime. But what about police using gun registrations to prevent or stop a crime? Do these news stories exist?

I couldn't find anything in a very brief search, but my common sense tells me that gun registrations are helpful in investigations and probably do lead to solved crimes. A gun is found at the scene. It's registered to John Smith. A visit with John Smith confirms he has an alibi, but he says he gave his gun to his nephew. Further checking pins the shooting on the nephew.

The fact that someone is carrying an unregistered weapon is grounds for arrest in most states. I'd imagine those trivial arrests lead to finding out a guy's into other criminal activity.

I don't think these "clues" are necessarily reported in the newspaper; but I'm sure it happens.

What kinds of crimes would you expect them to solve? I mean, how many crimes to we solve by looking at driver's license records?

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

I couldn't find anything in a very brief search, but my common sense tells me that gun registrations are helpful in investigations and probably do lead to solved crimes. A gun is found at the scene. It's registered to John Smith. A visit with John Smith confirms he has an alibi, but he says he gave his gun to his nephew. Further checking pins the shooting on the nephew.

The fact that someone is carrying an unregistered weapon is grounds for arrest in most states. I'd imagine those trivial arrests lead to finding out a guy's into other criminal activity.

I don't think these "clues" are necessarily reported in the newspaper; but I'm sure it happens.

What kinds of crimes would you expect them to solve? I mean, how many crimes to we solve by looking at driver's license records?

Most states do not have registration so claiming in most states it is a crime to carry an unregistered weapon is nonsense.

how many weapons are found at crime scenes without the possessor? almost none

 

[MaggieD]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

Most states do not have registration so claiming in most states it is a crime to carry an unregistered weapon is nonsense.

how many weapons are found at crime scenes without the possessor? almost none

Well, at least when I show my ignorance I learn something: 43 states don't require registration. I had no idea. Being from Illinois, perhaps you can imagine why.

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

Well, at least when I show my ignorance I learn something: 43 states don't require registration. I had no idea. Being from Illinois, perhaps you can imagine why.

Illinois is an archaic and decadent statist cesspool when it comes to gun rights. When your major city is run by criminals it is not surprising they want to disarm honest people

 

[H. Lee White]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

The fact that someone is carrying an unregistered weapon is grounds for arrest in most states.

You need to revise that statemnt, as most states allow carrying guns and few states require registration.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

Hmm - so people think that registration is the only system in which gun-ownership records are documented. Interesting.

Licencing and application for purchase are all kept on file for a set amount of time.

Guns are not sold like candy - you can't just walk in and buy and walk out . . . there's a process and every state has their own way of keeping tabs on the who and when.

 

[jamesrage]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

I couldn't find anything in a very brief search, but my common sense tells me that gun registrations are helpful in investigations and probably do lead to solved crimes. A gun is found at the scene. It's registered to John Smith. A visit with John Smith confirms he has an alibi, but he says he gave his gun to his nephew. Further checking pins the shooting on the nephew.

The fact that someone is carrying an unregistered weapon is grounds for arrest in most states. I'd imagine those trivial arrests lead to finding out a guy's into other criminal activity.

I don't think these "clues" are necessarily reported in the newspaper; but I'm sure it happens.

What kinds of crimes would you expect them to solve? I mean, how many crimes to we solve by looking at driver's license records?

If that was true then shouldn't there be stories of police using firearm registrations to stopping or solving crime in the handful of states or even countries that require firearm registrations? The media reports when police dna to solve crimes, fake prize winnings to lure those who outstanding warrants, speed traps to catch drunks and so on.So why no stories of police using firearm registries to stop or solve crimes? We have the same media that uses mass shootings involving white people to push for more quote and quote reasonable gun control laws.Something like police using registries to stop or solve crimes would lend some credence to the anti-2nd amendment crowd's support for firearm registries.

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

Hmm - so people think that registration is the only system in which gun-ownership records are documented. Interesting.

Licencing and application for purchase are all kept on file for a set amount of time.

Guns are not sold like candy - you can't just walk in and buy and walk out . . . there's a process and every state has their own way of keeping tabs on the who and when.

Under Clinton, the ATF went around to gun stores and tried to record who bought semi auto weapons-the kind that cause Democrats and some RINOS to get upset. That was illegal and the ATF was slapped around for that nonsense. Registration per se is not allowed in most states. I have a CCW permit and there is no record of what gun I carry

 

[American]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

I RECALL that Hawaii has a registration scheme and a study was done and the conclusion was a big whopping NO.

anyone who understands crime realizes that if a Mope is found at a crime scene with a gun its because he has been caught or shot and gun registration is not going to be useful at all. Mopes don't leave guns at crime scenes that can be traced to them and if they have a record, they didn't buy it legally.

So what you're saying is that gun registration is worthless.

 

[SMTA]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

The fact that someone is carrying an unregistered weapon is grounds for arrest in most states. I'd imagine those trivial arrests lead to finding out a guy's into other criminal activity.

This is incorrect. Most states do not require registration.
Regarding legal concealed carry, most states do not require the carried weapon to be registered.
Here in OH, I can carry whatever I want to.

 

[SMTA]

Re: Are there any news stories of police using gun registries to stop or solve crimes

So what you're saying is that gun registration is worthless.

Completely worthless.
It takes time and money, and provides no benefit.
Most stolen guns will be reported by the owner, and the serial number, if it is found at a crime scene, will tie it back to the reported theft.
If recovered by LE, it will be returned to the original owner.

The logic behind mandatory gun registration is to serve a false purpose of accommodating unrealistic fears of people who dislike gun ownership.