Are the rich lazier than the poor?

[TurtleDude]

You really don't understand the concept of luck, do you?

Obviously not but as one famous coach once said

the harder you train, the luckier you tend to get

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

You really don't understand the concept of luck, do you?

“Luck is tenacity of purpose.“ – Ralph Waldo Emerson

 

[TurtleDude]

“Luck is tenacity of purpose.“ – Ralph Waldo Emerson

some is rich
some is poor
that's the way the world is
but I don't believe in lying back and saying
how bad your luck is

(Joe Strummer, RIP)

 

[UppityProle]

I would love to compare resumes with you. You would most likely be looking for a cliff to jump from.

You're not a man, you're an attorney. Probably the worst kind of attorney. A professional liar and parasite who maximizes bureaucratic complexity for his own self-serving ends. You're not deserving to lick the sole of my boot.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

You're not a man, you're an attorney. Probably the worst kind of attorney. A professional liar and parasite who maximizes bureaucratic complexity for his own self-serving ends. You're not deserving to lick the sole of my boot.

Well not until you knock off a liquor store. :shrug:

 

[TurtleDude]

Well not until you knock off a liquor store. :shrug:

LOL I am not a criminal defense attorney. though years ago I did defend a cop accused of shooting some guy who flashed a knife in his face

 

[LizardofOz]

I grew up on the lower east side of Manhattan and the ironbounds, in Newark,. This was in the 70's. There is no excuse for winning. rof

There is no excuse for bragging about it and bitching about others that don't? Anyways, see you back here in 3 months when you post the same responses to a similar topic.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

There is no excuse for bragging about it and bitching about others that don't? Anyways, see you back here in 3 months when you post the same responses to a similar topic.

3 monts? I'll do it tomorrow....


Point is opportunity is there. Good luck!

 

[Henrin]

“Luck is tenacity of purpose.“ – Ralph Waldo Emerson

Ralph is describing people like UP and what he believes with the follow quote:

“Success is simply a matter of luck. Ask any failure.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Ralph is describing people like UP and what he believes with the follow quote:

“Success is simply a matter of luck. Ask any failure.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Curious, what do you think that quote means?

 

[Verthaine]

I'm telling the truth. Every single one of his posts in this thread has been centred purely around himself. Autism doesn't capture half of it. The majority of the population are in the exact same situation that he was, and yet they will never get lucky enough to become millionaires. He doesn't think that's relevant.

Whether or not my posts are about me is meaningless.
I am not forcing you or anyone else to read them.
You,on the other hand,would forcibly take away the things that I and anyone else who have worked hard for many years if you had the power to do so.

Being a millionaire is not a prerequisite to having a rich and happy life,as I think many people here can attest to.

I can lose every penny I ever made or owned today,and I'll still be rich and happy because I have a beautiful loving wife,great daughters,and beautiful grandchlidren who all love me.
That's not being lucky,that's being blessed.


Who the hell are you to tell me what I am or should be thinking or find relevant?
You should be careful on that highhorse you are on.
The lack of oxygen that high up in the atmosphere can cause you to have a nasty fall.

Like I've said,don't hate the player,hate the game.
Whether or not those who were in the same position as I was "get lucky" as you claim I did has nothing to do with me.
My job is to feed people and support my family,not save the world
My name is "Verthaine",not "Fortuna".
I do lots of charity work and I have given people a chance to make something of themselves when others have written them off.
I do what I can to help others and that's all I can do.
If you are so concerned about the luck of others,take your beef to Lady Luck.

I know exactly how I made (made,not handed,not stumbled upon) my fortune,because I was there when it happened and you wasn't.
You can't seem to escape that fact.
I know exactly how much hard work it takes to run a restaurant,and you don't
Yet another fact that you cannot escape from.
You've shared none of the of the hardwork,sacrifices and risks that I took to achieve my wealth,so you have no right to dictate what should be done with it.
Yet another fact that you cannot escape from.

I never once put down those who aren't in the position that I am now.
That is another fact that you cannot escape.
I've stated that I have and I am providing training and employment to those less fortunane than me so that they may one day have the opportunity to get where I am at.
You have yet to state what are you doing for others.
That is another fact that you annot escape from.
You have yet to detail exactly how "redistributuion of wealth" is to occur.
You have yet to advocate the taking of your own income to help those who are less fortunate than you.

If you think I need to become "sensitive" in my dealings with megalomaniacal millionaires, in a thread in which the most marginalized people in society are repeatedly written off as good-for-nothing scroungers, then you're just as brainwashed as the rest of these libertards.

You're not a man, you're an attorney. Probably the worst kind of attorney. A professional liar and parasite who maximizes bureaucratic complexity for his own self-serving ends. You're not deserving to lick the sole of my boot.

You insult and result to name calling anyone who doesn't think think the way you want them to think,and you call me narcissitic?
I've noticed that you haven't attacked those who have written off marginalized people as good for nothing scroungers,yet you attack me for stating that I made my wealth through hard work?
You can call me what ever you want,couldn't care less.
I still create my own recipes,I still greet my customers,I still work the sautee line,I still wait tables,and I still wash dishes.
If you think all that is easy,why don't you try it?

Instead of attacking us hard working small business owners who create jobs,why don't you go after the corporate raiders who destroy jobs?
Speaking of creating jobs,how many have you created?
And stop hating on me just because I became a success using my hard work,skills and talent,and you haven't.

 

[molten_dragon]

There are no doubt lazy rich people out there. There are lazy poor people too. There are also rich people who have worked their asses off to get where they are. There are also poor people who have worked their asses off and are still poor. And then there are the majority who are somewhere in the middle. It's stupid to try to make sweeping claims like "rich people are lazy" or "rich people are hard workers". And the stupidest of all of them is the claim that someone is a self made man. There's no such thing.

 

[Henrin]

Curious, what do you think that quote means?

I realize why he was using it, but it has a certain sarcastic charm about it even if it wasn't intended.

Unless I'm wrong and it was supposed to be sarcastic?? I doubt that though since he was a socialist.

 

[molten_dragon]

Point is opportunity is there. Good luck!

I've always found this to be an interesting way of thinking. Yes, anyone in America can be successful. I truly believe that. However, saying that anyone can be successful is VERY different from saying that everyone can be successful. The world needs burger flippers, mechanics, and janitors as much as it needs doctors, lawyers, and stockbrokers. Judging by numbers, it probably needs them more. But we've (somewhat arbitrarily) decided that those jobs are less valuable. Yes, some of those people are lazy and don't have any ambition in life, but that's not true of all of them, probably not even most of them. And even if they were all ambitious, brilliant, had lots of opportunities, and were hard working, there would still be the same number of people working the same menial jobs for the same crappy pay. Because society needs those people. So maybe the 'haves' should try not to look down on the 'have nots' quite so much.

 

[LizardofOz]

Yes I understand it's out there and im getting there. See if you responded like that more
Often that would be cool. You also got to understand most the guys that respond to you in a ill way are typically in college or 20s and still got time they just are anxious to be at that point.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

I realize why he was using it, but it has a certain sarcastic charm about it even if it wasn't intended.

Unless I'm wrong and it was supposed to be sarcastic?? I doubt that though since he was a socialist.

It was.... But are you suggesting socalists dont believe in skill and har work meeting opportunity?

Quite the admission.


His main beliefs were in individualism and self reliance, no?

 

[lpast]

Gotta love all the self righteousness....heres the real deal...theres many rich that were born with the proverbial silver spoon sticking out of all their orifices....there are some that have done squat to get rich and many worked damn hard to get rich.
There are working poor that work like dogs making the rich man rich and stay poor and theres the poor that are poor because they suck...take drugs..do no thing lazy worthless skids....two way street...

This every thats rich is a victim crap is just that...and most dont pay anything near what they claim either

 

[TurtleDude]

There are no doubt lazy rich people out there. There are lazy poor people too. There are also rich people who have worked their asses off to get where they are. There are also poor people who have worked their asses off and are still poor. And then there are the majority who are somewhere in the middle. It's stupid to try to make sweeping claims like "rich people are lazy" or "rich people are hard workers". And the stupidest of all of them is the claim that someone is a self made man. There's no such thing.

what is equally stupid is to say that when someone is successful they somehow now owe every person who resides within 5,000 miles of them additional duties.

 

[TurtleDude]

Gotta love all the self righteousness....heres the real deal...theres many rich that were born with the proverbial silver spoon sticking out of all their orifices....there are some that have done squat to get rich and many worked damn hard to get rich.
There are working poor that work like dogs making the rich man rich and stay poor and theres the poor that are poor because they suck...take drugs..do no thing lazy worthless skids....two way street...

This every thats rich is a victim crap is just that...and most dont pay anything near what they claim either

what is crap is you thinking I owe you something because I am wealthy. I don't expect anything from you so why should you expect anything from me?

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Gotta love all the self righteousness....heres the real deal...theres many rich that were born with the proverbial silver spoon sticking out of all their orifices....there are some that have done squat to get rich and many worked damn hard to get rich.
There are working poor that work like dogs making the rich man rich and stay poor and theres the poor that are poor because they suck...take drugs..do no thing lazy worthless skids....two way street...

This every thats rich is a victim crap is just that...and most dont pay anything near what they claim either

I must admit I do find the idle rich as annoying as the entitled poor.....

 

[Centinel]

what is crap is you thinking I owe you something because I am wealthy. I don't expect anything from you so why should you expect anything from me?

You know the saying: What's mine is mine; what's yours is mine.

The world is full of brigands, thieves, and parasites.

 

[lpast]

what is crap is you thinking I owe you something because I am wealthy. I don't expect anything from you so why should you expect anything from me?

Who said I want anything from you...I dont need anything from you....but I will take from you every chance I get just to guffaw and watch you expressions while you whine and urinate in your pants

 

[lpast]

I must admit I do find the idle rich as annoying as the entitled poor.....

There ya go...an honest guy....rev can you give some lessons to turtle

 

[TurtleDude]

I must admit I do find the idle rich as annoying as the entitled poor.....

The idle rich are boring but at least they aren't costing you and I money.

 

[TurtleDude]

Who said I want anything from you...I dont need anything from you....but I will take from you every chance I get just to guffaw and watch you expressions while you whine and urinate in your pants

I think the first time you took something from me, the urine would be yours. People tend to lose control of their bladders when they are dealt with as thieves properly should be