Are London police fools?

[cranston36]

Feel better now?
The London Police say they stopped a terrorist threat before it got started.
This time they didn’t wait until after things started to blow up - they arrested people before anything happened.
When the bombs went off in London’s subways not long ago the first thing the London Police did was gun down a tourist from Brazil.
They acted on information that was apparently extracted from an individual who had been captured either in Afghanistan or Pakistan.
Do you think that this information could have been extracted through torture?
Everyone is happy the bad guys have been foiled and that they will not be able to blow up explosives disguised as beverages with detonators disguised as electronic devices. We haven’t had any news about what liquids they were going to use or how they got them.
Interpol, the FBI and the CIA nor any other agency, claims to have broken up this terrorist band that “U.S. government officials said privately could have been the biggest terrorist attack since September 11, 2001“.
It’s a good story but is it true? Because of what I have read about him I cannot trust the London Police Chief Sir Ian Blair.
He reminds me of the New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik who pleaded guilty to accepting tens of thousands of dollars in gifts while he was a top city official.
Tony Blair took the news in stride and did not interrupt his Caribbean vacation.
When will Sir Ian step aside?

 

[Jay R]

When the bombs went off in London’s subways not long ago the first thing the London Police did was gun down a tourist from Brazil.

Actually he was an immigrant working as an electrician in the capital, and his visa had expired well before his death, he was illegally residing in the country rather than returning home to his own. Clearly flouting the laws relating to foreign workers, he was thus an illegal immigrant.

And what is the thrust of this argument? Yesterday's news is already a conspiracy theory? Put this in the appropriate forum where it can be ignored, 'Breaking News' is for breaking news and requires a link to a source of the same title as the thread.

 

[cranston36]

Tell me again how a little police force like London's, which has never been able to stop the flow of heroin to its streets, figured this one out without help.

Do they think we are stupid?

 

[Jay R]

Once again, conspiracy theories belong in the appropriate forum.

The identification and investigation of terrorism is only partly handled by any UK police forces, and usually only in the later stages of the operation when it is necessary to conduct raids and arrest suspects. The bulk of investigation work is carried out by the domestic security service MI5. The Metropolitan Police have been involved in breaking up several high profile terrorist plots by dysfunctional members of the Muslim community in recent years, but they are principally the everyday police force for the capital, they don't specialise in dealing with terrorism because that the responsibility of other organisations.

As for narcotics such as heroin, the police in London, just as elsewhere in this country or the rest of Europe, are unable to stop the flow of illegal narcotics because a.) it is driven by a supply/demand market and b.) they are in truth not sufficiently empowered by the government to do so. Drug dealing is not treated as a serious crime, it certainly doesn't carry harsh enough sentencing, and there are restrictions on what evidence can be admissable in court. Plus there is the reluctance of the British government to pursue the supply chain beyond our borders due to the jurisdictions of other countries and the requirements of good political relations with them. We have several thousand heavily armed soldiers in Afghanistan, one of the major narcotics capitals of the world, and yet we don't adopt a policy of annihilating the drug lords wherever we see them. Instead we laughably expect the Afghani's to do so because our government doesn't want to be seen as being harsh and dictatorial over there. The police are the last people to be held responsible for failed anti-narcotics policy.

 

[RightinNYC]

Feel better now?
The London Police say they stopped a terrorist threat before it got started.
This time they didn’t wait until after things started to blow up - they arrested people before anything happened.
When the bombs went off in London’s subways not long ago the first thing the London Police did was gun down a tourist from Brazil.
They acted on information that was apparently extracted from an individual who had been captured either in Afghanistan or Pakistan.
Do you think that this information could have been extracted through torture?
Everyone is happy the bad guys have been foiled and that they will not be able to blow up explosives disguised as beverages with detonators disguised as electronic devices. We haven’t had any news about what liquids they were going to use or how they got them.
Interpol, the FBI and the CIA nor any other agency, claims to have broken up this terrorist band that “U.S. government officials said privately could have been the biggest terrorist attack since September 11, 2001“.
It’s a good story but is it true? Because of what I have read about him I cannot trust the London Police Chief Sir Ian Blair.
He reminds me of the New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik who pleaded guilty to accepting tens of thousands of dollars in gifts while he was a top city official.
Tony Blair took the news in stride and did not interrupt his Caribbean vacation.
When will Sir Ian step aside?

I can't even begin to tell you how ignorant you are.

1) There have been numerous reports detailing what types of substances were to be used. It's not our fault you make it a habit not to educate yourself.

2) This was real. Unless you're suggesting that 15,000 British intelligence officers have been lying for a year.

3) The "tourist" that was gunned down was a tragic mistake, in no little part caused by the suspects decision to run from the police.

4) You offer no other evidences for your opinions and proceed to ramble about your suspicions.

I'm tempted to leave this in the Breaking News forum so that more people will see it and be embarassed for you, but because it doesnt follow the rules, I have to move it to the appropriate forum.

 

[cranston36]

Interesting that this thread was moved from the political discussion. It is not a conspiracy 'theory'. It is a series of questions. Why aren't they being answered?

Who were the 'terrorists'?
Who provided the original information concerning the 'plot'?
Who made the arrests?
How did the London Police collect information?
Why did original reports have the information coming from a prisoner in Afghanistan while later reports have it coming from eastern Pakistan?
Who collected the original information?
What liquids were involved?
Did any of it actually get to the airport?

There are a lot of unanswered questions.

 

[RightinNYC]

Interesting that this thread was moved from the political discussion. It is not a conspiracy 'theory'. It is a series of questions. Why aren't they being answered?

Who were the 'terrorists'?
Who provided the original information concerning the 'plot'?
Who made the arrests?
How did the London Police collect information?
Why did original reports have the information coming from a prisoner in Afghanistan while later reports have it coming from eastern Pakistan?
Who collected the original information?
What liquids were involved?
Did any of it actually get to the airport?

There are a lot of unanswered questions.

For the third time, your thread was moved because it did not follow the rules for "Breaking News"

And the answers to the vast majority of those questions can be found by even the most cursory reading of the news stories regarding this incident. Forgive me if I don't feel like spoonfeeding you the answers to questions that you can find out yourself.

Go, read up on this, and then if you feel like there are still questions, come back and ask them.

 

[Loxd4]

Interesting that this thread was moved from the political discussion. It is not a conspiracy 'theory'. It is a series of questions. Why aren't they being answered?

Who were the 'terrorists'?
Who provided the original information concerning the 'plot'?
Who made the arrests?
How did the London Police collect information?
Why did original reports have the information coming from a prisoner in Afghanistan while later reports have it coming from eastern Pakistan?
Who collected the original information?
What liquids were involved?
Did any of it actually get to the airport?

There are a lot of unanswered questions.

Good question but i dont think it belong in the braking news but also not in the Conspiracy Theories either...lol but thos question well be answer in time with either lies or the truth bent a little bit....