Are Liberals Godless?

[ptsdkid]

Excuse me for not putting this thread in the religion section, but I did want to present it as a poll, and I didn't want to blemish the religion section with a negative.

Of course I have many of my own reasons for labeling liberals 'Godless', but I'll hold back for now while waiting to see if there are any God-fearing/God-loving liberals willing to show me that I'm wrong.

Of course, those unable to think for themselves may want to get a sneak preview of their Godlessness by reading Ann Coulter's #1 bestselling book--"Godless"...'The Church of Liberalism' to get factual data behind your answers.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Of course, those unable to think for themselves may want to get a sneak preview of their Godlessness by reading Ann Coulter's #1 bestselling book--"Godless"...'The Church of Liberalism' to get factual data behind your answers.

Those unable to think for themselves should get their information from Ann Coulter? :roll:

Factual data from Godless? :2funny:

A book of complete with generalizations contradictory with the teachings of Jesus Christ...

 

[hipsterdufus]

Yes, all liberals, are godless and eat puppies for breakfast, so sayeth the Lord.

Thanks be to God.

Next question. :roll:

 

[Patrickt]

Of course, not. I know some liberals who are quite religious and one is a priest. Now, when I hear someone ranting and raving about the horrors of believing in a god it is usually a liberal. Then there are the dreaded moderates who just don't care.

 

[jamesrage]

Excuse me for not putting this thread in the religion section, but I did want to present it as a poll, and I didn't want to blemish the religion section with a negative.

Of course I have many of my own reasons for labeling liberals 'Godless', but I'll hold back for now while waiting to see if there are any God-fearing/God-loving liberals willing to show me that I'm wrong.

Of course, those unable to think for themselves may want to get a sneak preview of their Godlessness by reading Ann Coulter's #1 bestselling book--"Godless"...'The Church of Liberalism' to get factual data behind your answers.

I think most of them are and the rest that claim to be religious are only pretending so that they may currupt religious orginizations.

 

[Billo_Really]

God is a Buddist.
More liberals have Buddah bags.
Therefore, liberals are not Godless.

 

[Kandahar]

Yes. I'm a four-star general in the war on Christmas, and I will not rest until the Bible is outlawed and all Americans are required to throw rocks at pictures of Jesus.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by Kandahar:
Yes. I'm a four-star general in the war on Christmas, and I will not rest until the Bible is outlawed and all Americans are required to throw rocks at pictures of Jesus.

Would those rocks have to be thrown to the "right" or to the "left?"

 

[Iriemon]

Didn't you just start a thread on this same subject a few days ago?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/religion-philosophy/11759-godless-liberal-religion.html

 

[Red_Dave]

Excuse me for not putting this thread in the religion section, but I did want to present it as a poll, and I didn't want to blemish the religion section with a negative.

Of course I have many of my own reasons for labeling liberals 'Godless', but I'll hold back for now while waiting to see if there are any God-fearing/God-loving liberals willing to show me that I'm wrong.

Of course, those unable to think for themselves may want to get a sneak preview of their Godlessness by reading Ann Coulter's #1 bestselling book--"Godless"...'The Church of Liberalism' to get factual data behind your answers.

The Rev Jim Wallis? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Wallis

Am I right in thinking you belive the republican party represents christiality in some way? I may take this claim seriously when they demonstrate an ounce of social conscience but untill then I,ll leave you with a revelvant qoute.

"If I'm an unborn child I should stay unborn. Once I'm born I'm off the radar screen of the religious right - no child care, no support for mothers. It's probirth, not pro-life." Jim Wallis.

 

[talloulou]

"If I'm an unborn child I should stay unborn. Once I'm born I'm off the radar screen of the religious right - no child care, no support for mothers. It's probirth, not pro-life." Jim Wallis.

That is such a retarded talking point especially considering that abortion was made common by a woman who believed the poorest amoung us shouldn't breed. Anotherwards the founder of planned parenthood believed you could efficienty deal with poverty by just killing off the offspring of the poor. Logical I guess but what's up with this newest talking point you all spout????
The religious don't give a crap about poor babies......? How 'bout the whacked out left believes poor babies shouldn't even have the right to exist which is why they see abortion as a grand solution to poverty hidden behind a facade of womens rights.

I'm not religious but I'm not so stupid as to deny all the religious organizations that work hard taking care of the worlds poor and deprived. When is the rest of the world gonna get involved in the plight of Africa instead of leaving it up to Christian missionaries?

 

[Red_Dave]

That is such a retarted talking point especially considering that abortion was made common by a woman who believed the poorest amoung us shouldn't breed. Anotherwards the founder of planned parenthood believed you could efficienty deal with poverty by just killing off the offspring of the poor. Logical I guess but what's up with this newest talking point you all spout????
The religious don't give a crap about poor babies......? How 'bout the whacked out left believes poor babies shouldn't even have the right to exist which is why they see abortion as a grand solution to poverty hidden behind a facade of womens rights.

I'm not religious but I'm not so stupid as to deny all the relilgious organizations that work hard taking care of the worlds poor and deprived.

I think your missing the point really. I just qouted a minister so im hardly saying the religous dont care about poor babies/the poor. The comment was adressing the religious right. I dont think the qoute was particually pro-choice either.

 

[talloulou]

I think your missing the point really. I just qouted a minister so im hardly saying the religous dont care about poor babies/the poor. The comment was adressing the religious right. I dont think the qoute was particually pro-choice either.

The guy is an activist for the left who adopted a "talking point" which is towed by planned parenthood and the rest of the prochoice network. That talking point suggests that people who care about abortion don't care about the kid once it's born. The talking point is ridiculously stupid regardless of whose mouth it flies out of. As far as the "religious right" or "religiuos left" one can not argue that it is in fact the "religious" in general who have made the poor in our country and abroad a priority.

 

[Hoot]

When is the rest of the world gonna get involved in the plight of Africa instead of leaving it up to Christian missionaries?

When Bush thinks there's oil there.

 

[Red_Dave]

The guy is an activist for the left who adopted a "talking point" which is towed by planned parenthood and the rest of the prochoice network. That talking point suggests that people who care about abortion don't care about the kid once it's born. The talking point is ridiculously stupid regardless of whose mouth it flies out of. As far as the "religious right" or "religiuos left" one can not argue that it is in fact the "religious" in general who have made the poor in our country and abroad a priority.

Talking point? I thought Jim Wallis came up with the qoute. I dont dispute that religious people have made poverty a priority.

 

[SixStringHero]

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting we are in Iraq for oil :roll:

 

[talloulou]

Talking point? I thought Jim Wallis came up with the qoute. I dont dispute that religious people have made poverty a priority.

Sorry. I just hate that talking point and yeah it is a talking point that is commonly spouted. It really irks me because generally it claims the "religious right" don't care about children and that just flies in the face of reality when you consider all the work religious organizations do to help the poor young and old.


'It's as though all they care about is unborn babies, and they don't care anything about mothers or the babies once they are born into a world that can't receive them properly."
—Jane Fonda

http://www.feminist.com/resources/quotes/quotes_choice.html

The Religious Right is obsessed with children, but only "unborn" ones.

http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=boston_19_1


The quotes don't match yours exactly but they all imply the same thing and I could find tons of examples from tons of prochoicers who all repeat the same absurd statement. It's become some sort of prochoice mantra despite having absolutely zero truth behind it and it completely underminds and overshadows the fact that religious groups in many cases are the only ones seemingly concerned with the poor.

 

[scottyz]

Sorry. I just hate that talking point and yeah it is a talking point that is commonly spouted. It really irks me because generally it claims the "religious right" don't care about children and that just flies in the face of reality when you consider all the work religious organizations do to help the poor young and old.


'It's as though all they care about is unborn babies, and they don't care anything about mothers or the babies once they are born into a world that can't receive them properly."
—Jane Fonda

http://www.feminist.com/resources/quotes/quotes_choice.html

The Religious Right is obsessed with children, but only "unborn" ones.

http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=boston_19_1


The quotes don't match yours exactly but they all imply the same thing and I could find tons of examples from tons of prochoicers who all repeat the same absurd statement. It's become some sort of prochoice mantra despite having absolutely zero truth behind it and it completely underminds and overshadows the fact that religious groups in many cases are the only ones seemingly concerned with the poor.

How many religious right groups will offer to pay all of a childs expenses(no strings attached) if the mom or couple is living below the poverty line? How many of them lobby congress to better aid these folks?

 

[talloulou]

How many religious right groups will offer to pay all of a childs expenses(no strings attached) if the mom or couple is living below the poverty line? How many of them lobby congress to better aid these folks?

Is this tongue in cheek or do you seriously want an answer?

I find many of the very religous to be extremely charitable regardless of political party affiliation. Churches in every community I have ever lived in were paramount in helping keep the poor fed and clothed. The Salvation Army in many places is the only "operation" that aims to get men off the streets and off drugs and alcohol. I constantly see churches promoting food and clothing drives and I personally gave all my sons clothes from age 0-3 years to a church that put me in a contact with a teen who was pregnant and needed all the help she could get.

When planned parenthood starts to run organizations like the salvation army, when they begin collecting clothes for poor mothers and their children, when they have food drives then maybe maybe they can start to argue that they care about "born children" more than the right or the religious right or the proloifers. When you show me proof that people who are prochoice give more and do more for the poor than people who are prolife maybe I'll take your wicked comments more seriously. Does that makes sense to you?

 

[mpg]

We're all godless because there is no god.

 

[drobforever]

I find many of the very religous to be extremely charitable regardless of political party affiliation. Churches in every community I have ever lived in were paramount in helping keep the poor fed and clothed. The Salvation Army in many places is the only "operation" that aims to get men off the streets and off drugs and alcohol. I constantly see churches promoting food and clothing drives and I personally gave all my sons clothes from age 0-3 years to a church that put me in a contact with a teen who was pregnant and needed all the help she could get.

Does that makes sense to you?

Don't know if that makes sense to him, but definitely not to me.

While I've only been to 2 churches regularly these past few years so I won't say my observation applies to every church, members from churches are hardly more charitable then those who're not. The people working in the church are usually quite charitable, but not the members. Since those who work there only represent a low percentage of total number of religious people I don't think you can conclude that religious people are more charitable.

 

[scottyz]

When you show me proof that people who are prochoice give more and do more for the poor than people who are prolife maybe I'll take your wicked comments more seriously. Does that makes sense to you?

Can you show proof that they don't? Goodwill Industries is secular and does charitable work too.. hmm.

 

[talloulou]

Don't know if that makes sense to him, but definitely not to me.

While I've only been to 2 churches regularly these past few years so I won't say my observation applies to every church, members from churches are hardly more charitable then those who're not. The people working in the church are usually quite charitable, but not the members. Since those who work there only represent a low percentage of total number of religious people I don't think you can conclude that religious people are more charitable.

Well I said I have found the religoius to be quite charitable. I didn't say more charitable than someone who is not relgious. I'm not religious! I'm quite charitable myself. Often when I'm looking for an opportunity to volunteer or give it is through church programs that I find opportunity that's how I know they are quite busy helping the poor. I never said they are the only ones helping but I will say for a long time in Africa that would be an extremely valid argument.

My point is that the claim that religious people don't care about the "born" is absurd.

 

[talloulou]

Can you show proof that they don't? Goodwill Industries is secular and does charitable work too.. hmm.

If I made a statement that suggested that prochoicers or "the left" didn't care about the poor or the born than that would be absurd as well. I haven't now or ever made such a statement.

 

[scottyz]

If I made a statement that suggested that prochoicers or "the left" didn't care about the poor or the born than that would be absurd as well. I haven't now or ever made such a statement.

Seems like you implied they didn't care by saying they don't run organizations to help the poor and aren't concerned with them.

When planned parenthood starts to run organizations like the salvation army, when they begin collecting clothes for poor mothers and their children, when they have food drives then maybe maybe they can start to argue that they care about "born children" more than the right or the religious right or the proloifers. When you show me proof that people who are prochoice give more and do more for the poor than people who are prolife maybe I'll take your wicked comments more seriously. Does that makes sense to you?

It's become some sort of prochoice mantra despite having absolutely zero truth behind it and it completely underminds and overshadows the fact that religious groups in many cases are the only ones seemingly concerned with the poor.

I'm not saying they don't care, but that they have the money and political clout to make abortion a rarity without just outlawing it and don't.