are budget friendly meals going to make a comeback

[beerftw]

Are budget friendly meals going to make a comeback? I wonder because inflation is getting out of hand, old meals like meatloaf, dirty rice, american goulash etc had their roots in poverty style cooking.

Currently food prices and inflation are outpacing wages, and certain foods are getting double hit due to the russia ukraine conflict, russia and ukraine are some of the largest exporters of grain, and russia is the largest exporter of fertilizer. Given how global the food supply is I wonder in America as well as the rest of the world if depression style cooking will make a comeback, or if the very least 1970's style cooking under the last big bout of inflation.



The sad thing is as a kid I remember eating creative meals, spaghetti was a common staple, as was hamburger beans, meatloaf, tips and rice, hamburger and rice etc, all made up of cheaper ingredients at the time, as at the time my father even being an nco in the navy did not make the greatest amount of money for the size of the family, both him and my mom were very good at stretching a budget and making food work no matter how little the money was.

 

[Josie]

Growing up in poverty in the 80s, I ate a lot of mashed potatoes and pasta.

I watched a video similar to that not too long ago. I'd never heard of mulligan until then.

 

[Mycroft]

Are budget friendly meals going to make a comeback? I wonder because inflation is getting out of hand, old meals like meatloaf, dirty rice, american goulash etc had their roots in poverty style cooking.

Currently food prices and inflation are outpacing wages, and certain foods are getting double hit due to the russia ukraine conflict, russia and ukraine are some of the largest exporters of grain, and russia is the largest exporter of fertilizer. Given how global the food supply is I wonder in America as well as the rest of the world if depression style cooking will make a comeback, or if the very least 1970's style cooking under the last big bout of inflation.



The sad thing is as a kid I remember eating creative meals, spaghetti was a common staple, as was hamburger beans, meatloaf, tips and rice, hamburger and rice etc, all made up of cheaper ingredients at the time, as at the time my father even being an nco in the navy did not make the greatest amount of money for the size of the family, both him and my mom were very good at stretching a budget and making food work no matter how little the money was.

I cook mainly for myself, so I'm not hit too bad with the inflated food prices...yet. But I already make budget friendly meals. I rarely have pre-processed meals. I cook from scratch.

Here are some of my recipes on my OneNote. Also have another section for air fry meals.



And I LOVE making soup.

 

[Lovebug]

Soups can go a long way. I remember "if we get company, add water", lol. I think we are, overall, a bit spoiled. Do we really need the proper ratio of meats, carbs ...every day of our lives. It is ok to skip one or the other, both or most for a few days. Remember the ramen noodle college days?
Perhaps this will help.
I thought about starting a thread on this, but perhaps this is fine here?
We have started growing sprouts. Amazing what you can grow with simple and inexpensive supermarket ingredients.
We are following Marie/fine art of cooking. Very educational.

She explains well, shows the step by step process, has great recipes.
With a little initial investment, we now successfully grow microgreens and sprouts. As a matter of fact, we had stir fried lentil sprouts over rice today.
Did you know that you can regrow green onions? Use the green part, place the rest in water and watch them grow.

 

[MaryP]

A lot of times there's no meat in my meals just because it doesn't need it. Rice and beans, stuffed baked potatoes, baked beans and brown bread, mac and cheese, cheese quesadillas...

 

[beerftw]

A lot of times there's no meat in my meals just because it doesn't need it. Rice and beans, stuffed baked potatoes, baked beans and brown bread, mac and cheese, cheese quesadillas...

Rice and beans have been a roller coaster of prices as well, I was paying 48 cents at walmart a pound a year ago for store brand, now it is almost 2 bucks a pound. Granted even with those prices rice and beans go very far but they have gone up.

I actually other than cajun rice recipes almost never eat rice, but I do eat beans plenty, I bought a crapton and preserved them in vacuum sealing or in sealed totes because the whole 2020 food shortage cause by panick buying prompted me to have a backup just incase it happens again. The way I saw it rice and beans are cheap fillers full of starch and proteins, they are not complete meals but can stretch out more expensive items when budget or supply is limited.

Mac and cheese I love, I will eat the easy mac stuff, but generally that is more a I am hungry and have to eat something rather than I love it thing. Real mac and cheese made with butter milk cheese and flour for the sauce and topped with real cheese, oh man I can never get enough of that!

 

[beerftw]

Soups can go a long way. I remember "if we get company, add water", lol. I think we are, overall, a bit spoiled. Do we really need the proper ratio of meats, carbs ...every day of our lives. It is ok to skip one or the other, both or most for a few days. Remember the ramen noodle college days?
Perhaps this will help.
I thought about starting a thread on this, but perhaps this is fine here?
We have started growing sprouts. Amazing what you can grow with simple and inexpensive supermarket ingredients.
We are following Marie/fine art of cooking. Very educational.

She explains well, shows the step by step process, has great recipes.
With a little initial investment, we now successfully grow microgreens and sprouts. As a matter of fact, we had stir fried lentil sprouts over rice today.
Did you know that you can regrow green onions? Use the green part, place the rest in water and watch them grow.

You can regrow any onions, it is just the ones you eat the bulbs on can not regrow unless you use seeds as inions regrow by either bulb or seed. Green onions and chives you eat the green parts rather the the bulbs, even though you can eat the bulbs on both, the bulbs go dormant in the winter and split to create multiple bulbs to produce again the next year.

Chives and green onions also produce seeds, but most growers shun them as they are mountains more difficult than simply using bulbs, and in proper winter temps onions will slip and reproduce meaning a single bulb can produce multiple plants year after year.

 

[Lovebug]

You can regrow any onions, it is just the ones you eat the bulbs on can not regrow unless you use seeds as inions regrow by either bulb or seed. Green onions and chives you eat the green parts rather the the bulbs, even though you can eat the bulbs on both, the bulbs go dormant in the winter and split to create multiple bulbs to produce again the next year.

Chives and green onions also produce seeds, but most growers shun them as they are mountains more difficult than simply using bulbs, and in proper winter temps onions will slip and reproduce meaning a single bulb can produce multiple plants year after year.

We have also tried leeks, it works.

 

[craig]

Are budget friendly meals going to make a comeback? I wonder because inflation is getting out of hand, old meals like meatloaf, dirty rice, american goulash etc had their roots in poverty style cooking.

Currently food prices and inflation are outpacing wages, and certain foods are getting double hit due to the russia ukraine conflict, russia and ukraine are some of the largest exporters of grain, and russia is the largest exporter of fertilizer. Given how global the food supply is I wonder in America as well as the rest of the world if depression style cooking will make a comeback, or if the very least 1970's style cooking under the last big bout of inflation.



The sad thing is as a kid I remember eating creative meals, spaghetti was a common staple, as was hamburger beans, meatloaf, tips and rice, hamburger and rice etc, all made up of cheaper ingredients at the time, as at the time my father even being an nco in the navy did not make the greatest amount of money for the size of the family, both him and my mom were very good at stretching a budget and making food work no matter how little the money was.

People eat so well now days. You never see boiled potatoes anymore.

 

[MaryP]

Rice and beans have been a roller coaster of prices as well, I was paying 48 cents at walmart a pound a year ago for store brand, now it is almost 2 bucks a pound. Granted even with those prices rice and beans go very far but they have gone up.

I actually other than cajun rice recipes almost never eat rice, but I do eat beans plenty, I bought a crapton and preserved them in vacuum sealing or in sealed totes because the whole 2020 food shortage cause by panick buying prompted me to have a backup just incase it happens again. The way I saw it rice and beans are cheap fillers full of starch and proteins, they are not complete meals but can stretch out more expensive items when budget or supply is limited.

Mac and cheese I love, I will eat the easy mac stuff, but generally that is more a I am hungry and have to eat something rather than I love it thing. Real mac and cheese made with butter milk cheese and flour for the sauce and topped with real cheese, oh man I can never get enough of that!

They're not complete meals? Beans when combined with grains are complete proteins. Cheese is a protein itself.

 

[Lovebug]

People eat so well now days. You never see boiled potatoes anymore.

Mom had her potato patch. After the harvest she would throw potatoes into the fire that was burning garden scraps. Best potatoes ever.

 

[MaryP]

People eat so well now days. You never see boiled potatoes anymore.

LOL you haven't been to my house. Smash em with your fork and load em with butter--nothing wrong with that.

 

[beerftw]

They're not complete meals? Beans when combined with grains are complete proteins. Cheese is a protein itself.

There is more than what is considered complete proteins, truly complete proteins come from animal products, as they contain more than just proteins. The western world uses uses meat for complete animal sources of nutrition, the eastern world eats meat far less and uses the milk and cheese for their sources.

Either way even considering there is more to animal nutrition than protein, there are more types of things needed than even animals can provide, hence beans and rice can be a cheap filler, but you still need the other nutrients, whether they are from animal or other sources.

For example, just in protein diets, rabbit starvation or protein poisoning is a known thing, going back centuries, where people would survive on rabbits because they bred like well rabbits, problem was they were all protein and no fat, and lacked other nutrients needed beyond meat. The human body can survive a few years on a just meat diet, but it will take it's toll on the body after long enough as the body can only compensate so long without the other nutrients. The rabbit starvation was characterized by people surviving on protein rich rabbits, and after a few years they would look like they were starving to death even though well fed, because the rabbits did not provide everything the body needed.

Even today a rice and beans diet will cause issues like blindness and sickness. The human body needs more, hence the stretch it out thing, Protein and starch are the heftyest demands of the human body but not the only, and the other things it needs are less frequent. So someone eating rice and beans with meat and vegetables could stretch out a budget, while someone eating just rice and beans would suffer malnutrition after long enough.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Are budget friendly meals going to make a comeback? I wonder because inflation is getting out of hand, old meals like meatloaf, dirty rice, american goulash etc had their roots in poverty style cooking.

Currently food prices and inflation are outpacing wages, and certain foods are getting double hit due to the russia ukraine conflict, russia and ukraine are some of the largest exporters of grain, and russia is the largest exporter of fertilizer. Given how global the food supply is I wonder in America as well as the rest of the world if depression style cooking will make a comeback, or if the very least 1970's style cooking under the last big bout of inflation.



The sad thing is as a kid I remember eating creative meals, spaghetti was a common staple, as was hamburger beans, meatloaf, tips and rice, hamburger and rice etc, all made up of cheaper ingredients at the time, as at the time my father even being an nco in the navy did not make the greatest amount of money for the size of the family, both him and my mom were very good at stretching a budget and making food work no matter how little the money was.

My father owns/operates a small ranch. Range fed organic beef. No steroids or hormones, nice and lean, and I buy at cost. Plus eggs, chickens, and trading beef for pork with the neighbor. Monster garden as well.

I'm all set.

 

[MaryP]

There is more than what is considered complete proteins, truly complete proteins come from animal products, as they contain more than just proteins. The western world uses uses meat for complete animal sources of nutrition, the eastern world eats meat far less and uses the milk and cheese for their sources.

Either way even considering there is more to animal nutrition than protein, there are more types of things needed than even animals can provide, hence beans and rice can be a cheap filler, but you still need the other nutrients, whether they are from animal or other sources.

For example, just in protein diets, rabbit starvation or protein poisoning is a known thing, going back centuries, where people would survive on rabbits because they bred like well rabbits, problem was they were all protein and no fat, and lacked other nutrients needed beyond meat. The human body can survive a few years on a just meat diet, but it will take it's toll on the body after long enough as the body can only compensate so long without the other nutrients. The rabbit starvation was characterized by people surviving on protein rich rabbits, and after a few years they would look like they were starving to death even though well fed, because the rabbits did not provide everything the body needed.

Even today a rice and beans diet will cause issues like blindness and sickness. The human body needs more, hence the stretch it out thing, Protein and starch are the heftyest demands of the human body but not the only, and the other things it needs are less frequent. So someone eating rice and beans with meat and vegetables could stretch out a budget, while someone eating just rice and beans would suffer malnutrition after long enough.

Good to know, although I wasn't planning on living solely on them.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

You can regrow any onions, it is just the ones you eat the bulbs on can not regrow unless you use seeds as inions regrow by either bulb or seed. Green onions and chives you eat the green parts rather the the bulbs, even though you can eat the bulbs on both, the bulbs go dormant in the winter and split to create multiple bulbs to produce again the next year.

Chives and green onions also produce seeds, but most growers shun them as they are mountains more difficult than simply using bulbs, and in proper winter temps onions will slip and reproduce meaning a single bulb can produce multiple plants year after year.

I planted garlic once. now it's all over my yard. My eyes water when the grass gets cut.

 

[Lursa]

Are budget friendly meals going to make a comeback? I wonder because inflation is getting out of hand, old meals like meatloaf, dirty rice, american goulash etc had their roots in poverty style cooking.

Currently food prices and inflation are outpacing wages, and certain foods are getting double hit due to the russia ukraine conflict, russia and ukraine are some of the largest exporters of grain, and russia is the largest exporter of fertilizer. Given how global the food supply is I wonder in America as well as the rest of the world if depression style cooking will make a comeback, or if the very least 1970's style cooking under the last big bout of inflation.



The sad thing is as a kid I remember eating creative meals, spaghetti was a common staple, as was hamburger beans, meatloaf, tips and rice, hamburger and rice etc, all made up of cheaper ingredients at the time, as at the time my father even being an nco in the navy did not make the greatest amount of money for the size of the family, both him and my mom were very good at stretching a budget and making food work no matter how little the money was.

There's tons of really good, budget-friendly food you can make in a slow cooker or Dutch oven. In big batches and freeze meals. I love it...one time preparing, "set it and forget it," and then lots of meals.

Chicken esp. is great a million ways in a slow cooker...and I like things spicy...Indian, Mexican, Italian marinara, meatloaf, stews, chuck roasts, pulled pork...it's cheaper to make your own. And you just add in vegs...fresh or canned/frozen.

Healthy and not expensive.

We've been in the middle of 2 global crises and people have bitched non-stop about prices going up...yeah, we have to make sacrifices during crises. The generation during WW2 understood that. It's not like there's ever been a shortage of affordable food, even if not as much variety. The complaining has been ridiculous.

 

[Antiwar]

Quote:

The myth that plant proteins are incomplete, necessitating protein combining, was debunked by the scientific nutrition community decades ago.

All nutrients come from the sun or the soil. Vitamin D, the “sunshine vitamin,” is created when skin is exposed to sunlight. Everything else comes from the ground. Minerals originate from the earth, and vitamins from the plants and micro-organisms that grow from it.

The calcium in a cow’s milk (and her 200-pound skeleton) came from all the plants she ate, which drew it up from the soil. We can cut out the middle-moo, though, and get calcium from the plants directly.

Where do you get your protein? Protein contains essential amino acids, meaning our bodies can’t make them; and so, they are essential to get from our diet. But other animals don’t make them either. All essential amino acids originate from plants (and microbes), and all plant proteins have all essential amino acids. The only truly “incomplete” protein in the food supply is gelatin, which is missing the amino acid tryptophan. So, the only protein source that you couldn’t live on is Jell-O.

Transcript or video:

The Protein-Combining Myth | NutritionFacts.org

The myth that plant proteins are incomplete, necessitating protein combining, was debunked by the scientific nutrition community decades ago.

nutritionfacts.org

 

[Helix]

We had some recipes when i was a kid which probably originated in the Depression. One of my favorites is hot dog gravy. It's chopped and pan fried hot dogs in a milk and flour gravy with a bit of salt and served over bread like creamed chipped beef. Sounds odd until you try it. It's great.

 

[MaryP]

I like sardines, too. You can still get a can for under 2 bucks, and on crackers with a little horseradish, they're a good lunch.

 

[WIGDViking]

I planted garlic once. now it's all over my yard. My eyes water when the grass gets cut.

Sounds like a good problem to have…

 

[beerftw]

Quote:

The myth that plant proteins are incomplete, necessitating protein combining, was debunked by the scientific nutrition community decades ago.

All nutrients come from the sun or the soil. Vitamin D, the “sunshine vitamin,” is created when skin is exposed to sunlight. Everything else comes from the ground. Minerals originate from the earth, and vitamins from the plants and micro-organisms that grow from it.

The calcium in a cow’s milk (and her 200-pound skeleton) came from all the plants she ate, which drew it up from the soil. We can cut out the middle-moo, though, and get calcium from the plants directly.

Where do you get your protein? Protein contains essential amino acids, meaning our bodies can’t make them; and so, they are essential to get from our diet. But other animals don’t make them either. All essential amino acids originate from plants (and microbes), and all plant proteins have all essential amino acids. The only truly “incomplete” protein in the food supply is gelatin, which is missing the amino acid tryptophan. So, the only protein source that you couldn’t live on is Jell-O.

Transcript or video:

The Protein-Combining Myth | NutritionFacts.org

The myth that plant proteins are incomplete, necessitating protein combining, was debunked by the scientific nutrition community decades ago.

nutritionfacts.org

That is not quite true, outside buckwheat soy and quinoa most protein plant sources are not complete, hence why animal protein is popular.

Yes you can combine multiple sources of protein for a complete protein, but fyi the body needs more than just protein, there are many other nutrients the body needs, hence why a varied diet is key to survival. Vegetarians even in most of the world often get their protein completed as well as many other nutrients through milk and cheese, vegans on the other hand need a much wider variety of foods to complete nutrition.

This is why societies subsisting on a few crops have had issues, for example in cuba there was mass blindness after the fall of the soviet union who propped up their shortcomings. Their main diet was rice and beans often with nothing else, even if they managed to get a complete protein the rice and beans did not have the other nutrients needed, the most obvious signs were loss of vision and things like calcium deficiency.

So no animals are not needed, but without animals or animal byproducts there needs to be a wide assortment of food as unlike animals humans can not survive long on a single crop. Humans can survive a few years on meat as was tested over a century ago, however that too has major problems and just indicated the human body was versatile to handle food supply issues but was not meant to live off a limited supply of food consisting of a few crops at most.

 

[noonereal]

Are budget friendly meals going to make a comeback? I wonder because inflation is getting out of hand, old meals like meatloaf, dirty rice, american goulash etc had their roots in poverty style cooking.

Currently food prices and inflation are outpacing wages, and certain foods are getting double hit due to the russia ukraine conflict, russia and ukraine are some of the largest exporters of grain, and russia is the largest exporter of fertilizer. Given how global the food supply is I wonder in America as well as the rest of the world if depression style cooking will make a comeback, or if the very least 1970's style cooking under the last big bout of inflation.



The sad thing is as a kid I remember eating creative meals, spaghetti was a common staple, as was hamburger beans, meatloaf, tips and rice, hamburger and rice etc, all made up of cheaper ingredients at the time, as at the time my father even being an nco in the navy did not make the greatest amount of money for the size of the family, both him and my mom were very good at stretching a budget and making food work no matter how little the money was.

No, these meals will not make a comeback. People eat much much healthier today. They don't even know how to eat that garbadge.

 

[Lovebug]

No, these meals will not make a comeback. People eat much much healthier today. They don't even know how to eat that garbadge.

You know that some can't afford more than "garbage"?

 

[noonereal]

People eat so well now days. You never see boiled potatoes anymore.

Had some for dinner tonight. 😛