ARE...Americans....

[aquapub]

Watch as this goes on. Liberals will smear middle America, conservatives will be reasonable.

This debate will be between elitist snobs who (mistakenly, baselessly) portray themselves and their ideas as superior and mainstream, sensible people (Republicans).

 

[fooligan]

Well, looks like there is an obvious bias against Americans on the poll. Not one I'd choose.

No kidding....

Where's the Americans?

Right here...

 

[Robodoon]

Watch as this goes on. Liberals will smear middle America, conservatives will be reasonable.

This debate will be between elitist snobs who (mistakenly, baselessly) portray themselves and their ideas as superior and mainstream, sensible people (Republicans).

Well my point was more to the fact we are losing America. Both the Dems and the Reps in leadership are on the same team and selling us down the river to the NEW WORLD ORDER. But most Americans don't understand that and find confort in the CREATED left vs right fight, that really doesn't exist.
It doens't matter if a Rep or a Dem gets in to the Presidency, because they both end up doing the same thing, because they are following the same AGENDA for Globalization.

this simple trick was explain by Bill Clintongs mentor

Prof. Quigley book Tragedy and Hope

“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one perhaps, of the Right and the of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and the academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy… But either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired , unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.”

And both sides (of the people) are being fed half truths, which continue the fight, we are paying attention to the puppets, but not the puppet masters.

 

[Robodoon]

No kidding....



Right here...

You mean Native American? Like me? :shock:

 

[Calm2Chaos]

Jobs at McDonalds don't count

Most of the tech is heald by Big Corps, which are moving over seas, we are about a 90% service based economy now. The middle class can not servive with a job base like that...and thats what NAFTA GATT, CAFTA etc are build to bring about. Its for the benifit of the controllers not the people.

Competely, patenedly and totally untrue... Please show any proof of this.... Again...... 2 million plus jobs and rising... And the technology running the globale conomy is and always will be developed in this country. Trade has nothing to do with it. The development is within the country, the manufacturing may go to an overseas address. Being middle class I can say from experience that I am in fine shape

 

[SixStringHero]

Who is Diane Lane?

 

[Robodoon]

Competely, patenedly and totally untrue... Please show any proof of this.... Again...... 2 million plus jobs and rising...

yeah crap jobs you can't make a living with, and not forget the high paying jobs are on rotation, so if someone doesn't get a job with a corp, they will be used up and spit out, because big business today only cares about the bottom line. We aren't considered people, but "Human Resources", and they can always get more. I don't know what you do for a living, but in the industries I'm involved in, all the Mom and pop's are being bought out by the big boys and then gutted.

And the technology running the globale conomy is and always will be developed in this country.

Wrong again, the trade agreements promote companies out outsoucre and to move off shores.

Trade has nothing to do with it.

BULL! Trade has a great deal to do with it. GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA WTO EU etc are all part of a New World order Trade system for world government....and are designed to move the USA to third world statues.

The development is within the country, the manufacturing may go to an overseas address. Being middle class I can say from experience that I am in fine shape

Right not, but things take time, and trends take time to show its end results. So just because it hasn't happened over night...doesn't mean its not happening. don't you understand FREE TRADE is a Marxist idea?

 

[Paladin]

Who is Diane Lane?

Heathen.
Go here.
She has been in more than 44 films. Oscar nominated for her role in Unfaithful. Consistently among the top 100 Hottest Women polls conducted anywhere. At the age of 41, she puts to shame a lot of younger stars in looks and talents.
A lot of rep/cons won't like her because her mother-in-law is Barbara Streisand.
ted

 

[SixStringHero]

Heathen.
Go here.
She has been in more than 44 films. Oscar nominated for her role in Unfaithful. Consistently among the top 100 Hottest Women polls conducted anywhere. At the age of 41, she puts to shame a lot of younger stars in looks and talents.
A lot of rep/cons won't like her because her mother-in-law is Barbara Streisand.
ted

Oh damn, I saw that movie. I just didn't know her name. Yeah she's definitely not ugly.

I take it that's her in your avatar? Who's the guy with her?

 

[Paladin]

I take it that's her in your avatar? Who's the guy with her?

Yea, that's her. The guy is me, but I unfortunately wasn't photographed with her. A buddy knows of my affectation for Ms. Lane and photoshopped me into a pic.
I would dearly love to meet her, that's why I write screenplays. The real love of my life is my wife, tho'. :smile:
ted

 

[fooligan]

 

[goligoth]

funny funny.....A little insulting.....

To the actual poll...I didn't vote....it is incredebly biased. The answer to the original question is most likely a combination of all of the choices and about half a dozen others that aren't shown...

I think that Americans mean well but just can't get over themselves....

 

[SixStringHero]

Yea, that's her. The guy is me, but I unfortunately wasn't photographed with her. A buddy knows of my affectation for Ms. Lane and photoshopped me into a pic.
I would dearly love to meet her, that's why I write screenplays. The real love of my life is my wife, tho'. :smile:
ted

I thought that was John Mccarthy. :lol:

 

[SixStringHero]

And when I say John Mccarthy I mean John McCartney. :doh

 

[Calm2Chaos]

yeah crap jobs you can't make a living with, and not forget the high paying jobs are on rotation, so if someone doesn't get a job with a corp, they will be used up and spit out, because big business today only cares about the bottom line. We aren't considered people, but "Human Resources", and they can always get more. I don't know what you do for a living, but in the industries I'm involved in, all the Mom and pop's are being bought out by the big boys and then gutted.

Again.....You are wrong..... please show me proofthat all the new jobs created are "crap jobs". Unless youcan do that your just flapping your gums in an endless game of he said she said.

Wrong again, the trade agreements promote companies out outsoucre and to move off shores.

You will ousource the manufacturing but you will not outsource the actuall R&D of new technologies. They are created here and the trade aggrements gives them the ability to development them else were. I am not in favor of all these aggrements myself. But I in no way see it *** the end of anything.

BULL! Trade has a great deal to do with it. GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA WTO EU etc are all part of a New World order Trade system for world government....and are designed to move the USA to third world statues.

LOosen the strap on your tin foil hat please

 

[Robodoon]

Hey I love America more then you do, At least I understand what is going on and am not in a TV dazed condition


America full of good people is being destroyed, and We the Sheeple don't understand what is happening, we don't have the tools to stop it becuase we don't understand it by design.


The enemies got our school system long ago as well as the government and media, we don't remember who we are by design.



After the War, the Carnegie Endowment trustees reasoned that if they could get control of education in the United States, they would be able to prevent a return to the way of life as it had been prior to the war; and they recruited the Rockefeller Foundation to assist in such a monumental task. According to Dodd, "They divided the task in parts, giving to the Rockefeller Foundation the responsibility of altering education as it pertains to domestic subjects, but Carnegie retained the task of altering our education in foreign affairs and about international relations." The foundations decided that the most effective method of achieving this goal would be by altering American History, so they awarded grants, fellowships and scholarships to those professors and historians who would rewrite American history and promote one-worldism, humanism and socialism. By the early '30s, the well-laid plans of the foundation trustees had reached fruition, and a Reece Committee staff report concluded:

(1) that there had indeed been a non-bloody revolution in America between 1933 and 1936;

(2) that a certain few foundations had funded efforts to change the beliefs of the American people through education and propaganda; and

(3) that these revolutionary changes had been accepted without resistance.

 

[Robodoon]

Again.....You are wrong..... please show me proofthat all the new jobs created are "crap jobs". Unless youcan do that your just flapping your gums in an endless game of he said she said.

You can see it if your dealing with corps. Are you dealing with corps and mom and pop's? I deal with fortune 500 companies down to local retail shops. What do you do?

Of the 274,000 April jobs, 256,000 were in the private or nongovernment sector, and 211,000 of these were in the service sector as follows: 58,000 in leisure and hospitality (primarily restaurants and bars), 47,000 in construction, 29,200 in wholesale and retail trade, 28,000 in health care and social assistance, 17,300 in administrative and support services (primarily temps), 11,700 in transportation and warehousing, 8,800 in real estate. A few scattered jobs in other service categories completes the picture.

Americans regard themselves as "the world's only superpower," but the pattern of American job growth in the 21st century is that of a third world economy.

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts05122005.html

You will ousource the manufacturing but you will not outsource the actuall R&D of new technologies. They are created here and the trade aggrements gives them the ability to development them else were. I am not in favor of all these aggrements myself. But I in no way see it *** the end of anything.

As the manufacturing goes so does tech creation. Example the high end electronics are coming out of other nations not ours, and the multinationals have no love for America, they have sold out their own nation, well they really don't look to nations anymore, they see Globalism as the absolute.

LOosen the strap on your tin foil hat please

July 18, 1993 -- CFR member and Trilateralist Henry Kissinger writes in the Los Angeles Times concerning NAFTA:
"What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system...a first step toward a new world order."

 

[Calm2Chaos]

You can see it if your dealing with corps. Are you dealing with corps and mom and pop's? I deal with fortune 500 companies down to local retail shops. What do you do?

I'm in B2B sales. So I am involved with EVERY and ALL levels of buisness. I work with companies like Glaxo Smith Kline to corner dental offices

As the manufacturing goes so does tech creation. Example the high end electronics are coming out of other nations not ours, and the multinationals have no love for America, they have sold out their own nation, well they really don't look to nations anymore, they see Globalism as the absolute.

This country is to this day the largest importer and EXPORTER of goods and services. The fact is we lead the world in the development of new technology. And this in turn drives the global economy. Because it's developed here, does not mean it is manufactured here. I don't agree with all the trade iniatives that are being brought forward. But I am not going to use that and start screaming New World Order and the country is going to go under. That just isn't true

 

[KCConservative]

Well, looks like there is an obvious bias against Americans on the poll.

Of course. It was started by Lee Harvey Robodoon himself.

 

[Robodoon]

I'm in B2B sales. So I am involved with EVERY and ALL levels of buisness. I work with companies like Glaxo Smith Kline to corner dental offices

So you are dealing with the Elite business. Well they are growing, normal America is dying. What we see in the Dow Jones, isn't America, its the Elites.
Big Business willing to sell out to the Fascism of globalism will do fine, but We the people will suffer, and the Trade Agreements are based on FASCISM, which locks the common man out of the markets unless they want to play ball with the Elites.

This country is to this day the largest importer and EXPORTER of goods and services. The fact is we lead the world in the development of new technology. And this in turn drives the global economy. Because it's developed here, does not mean it is manufactured here. I don't agree with all the trade iniatives that are being brought forward. But I am not going to use that and start screaming New World Order and the country is going to go under. That just isn't true

Well that Just means you haven't been paying attention. All the Global Trade deals, GATT, NAFTA CAFTA,FTAA, WTO , EU are part of the Economic side for World Government ..THATS A FACT JACK!

I'm sorry to be a bit outspoken at times, this is upsetting for me as well, but people not understanding history or what is coming and just believing the promises of a happy tomorrow drive me crazy. WE THE PEOPLE HAVE TO WAKE UP, what is happening is Against us not for us.

"The Final Act of the Uruguay Round, marking the conclusion of the most
ambitious trade negotiation of our century, will give birth - in Morocco - to the World Trade Organization, the third pillar of the New World Order, along with the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund."

Part of full-page advertisement by the government of Morocco in The New
York Times (April 1994)

 

[Robodoon]

Of course. It was started by Lee Harvey Robodoon himself.

Hey I'm fighting the people who killed JFK, I'm not for them.

I'm just sad that my people are blind to the Attacks against them.

They have no understanding so they don't understand and are easy targets to those who wish us destroyed, I love America, but I would like it back.