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Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU Meeting In San Francisco

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Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

Forget pipsqueak Crack-Pot/Crack-Pipe Anthony Watts, whose greatest fame is on This message board it seems, mainly OCD-ed up by one Spammer here.
The talk of AGU16 is Arctic warmth.
From AGU of course:

13 DECEMBER 2016
Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU Meeting In San Francisco. You Can See Many Talks Online.
Posted by Dan Satterfield
Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU Meeting In San Francisco. You Can See Many Talks Online. - Dan's Wild Wild Science Journal - AGU Blogosphere

Highlights

*The average surface air temperature for the year ending September 2016 is by far the highest since 1900, and new monthly record highs were recorded for January, February, October and November 2016.

*After only modest changes from 2013-2015, minimum sea ice extent at the end of summer 2016 tied with 2007 for the second lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1979.

*Spring snow cover extent in the North American Arctic was the lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1967.

*In 37 years of Greenland ice sheet observations, only one year had earlier onset of spring melting than 2016.

*The Arctic Ocean is especially prone to ocean acidification, due to water temperatures that are colder than those further south. The short Arctic food chain leaves Arctic marine ecosystems vulnerable to ocean acidification events.

*Thawing permafrost releases carbon into the atmosphere, whereas greening tundra absorbs atmospheric carbon. Overall, tundra is presently Releasing Net carbon into the atmosphere.
...
With a real outbreak of Arctic air coming this week, you may hear something along the lines of “Where’s the global warming?” from someone. YOU probably know how silly that question is, but they don’t. The graph below from my friend (and fellow Meteorologist) Greg Fishel at WRAL-TV in Raleigh, is the perfect response to that question. He plotted a running 30 year total of the number of December days at or below 32 degrees in Raleigh. Most people are very poor at Recognizing Slow Motion Disasters…

1887-Present:

15493510_10158043776785724_5310816275263705823_o-768x523.png
 
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Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

Forget pipsqueak Crack-Pot/Crack-Pipe Anthony Watts, whose greatest fame is on This message board it seems, mainly OCD-ed up by one Spammer here.
The talk of AGU16 is Arctic warmth.
From AGU of course:

13 DECEMBER 2016
Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU Meeting In San Francisco. You Can See Many Talks Online.
Posted by Dan Satterfield
Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU Meeting In San Francisco. You Can See Many Talks Online. - Dan's Wild Wild Science Journal - AGU Blogosphere

Highlights

*The average surface air temperature for the year ending September 2016 is by far the highest since 1900, and new monthly record highs were recorded for January, February, October and November 2016.

*After only modest changes from 2013-2015, minimum sea ice extent at the end of summer 2016 tied with 2007 for the second lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1979.

*Spring snow cover extent in the North American Arctic was the lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1967.

*In 37 years of Greenland ice sheet observations, only one year had earlier onset of spring melting than 2016.

*The Arctic Ocean is especially prone to ocean acidification, due to water temperatures that are colder than those further south. The short Arctic food chain leaves Arctic marine ecosystems vulnerable to ocean acidification events.

*Thawing permafrost releases carbon into the atmosphere, whereas greening tundra absorbs atmospheric carbon. Overall, tundra is presently Releasing Net carbon into the atmosphere.
...
With a real outbreak of Arctic air coming this week, you may hear something along the lines of “Where’s the global warming?” from someone. YOU probably know how silly that question is, but they don’t. The graph below from my friend (and fellow Meteorologist) Greg Fishel at WRAL-TV in Raleigh, is the perfect response to that question. He plotted a running 30 year total of the number of December days at or below 32 degrees in Raleigh. Most people are very poor at Recognizing Slow Motion Disasters…

1887-Present:

15493510_10158043776785724_5310816275263705823_o-768x523.png

We used to have over 31 days in December?
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

Forget pipsqueak Crack-Pot/Crack-Pipe Anthony Watts, whose greatest fame is on This message board it seems, mainly OCD-ed up by one Spammer here.
The talk of AGU16 is Arctic warmth.
From AGU of course:

13 DECEMBER 2016
Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU Meeting In San Francisco. You Can See Many Talks Online.
Posted by Dan Satterfield
Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU Meeting In San Francisco. You Can See Many Talks Online. - Dan's Wild Wild Science Journal - AGU Blogosphere

Highlights

*The average surface air temperature for the year ending September 2016 is by far the highest since 1900, and new monthly record highs were recorded for January, February, October and November 2016.

*After only modest changes from 2013-2015, minimum sea ice extent at the end of summer 2016 tied with 2007 for the second lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1979.

*Spring snow cover extent in the North American Arctic was the lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1967.

*In 37 years of Greenland ice sheet observations, only one year had earlier onset of spring melting than 2016.

*The Arctic Ocean is especially prone to ocean acidification, due to water temperatures that are colder than those further south. The short Arctic food chain leaves Arctic marine ecosystems vulnerable to ocean acidification events.

*Thawing permafrost releases carbon into the atmosphere, whereas greening tundra absorbs atmospheric carbon. Overall, tundra is presently Releasing Net carbon into the atmosphere.
...
With a real outbreak of Arctic air coming this week, you may hear something along the lines of “Where’s the global warming?” from someone. YOU probably know how silly that question is, but they don’t. The graph below from my friend (and fellow Meteorologist) Greg Fishel at WRAL-TV in Raleigh, is the perfect response to that question. He plotted a running 30 year total of the number of December days at or below 32 degrees in Raleigh. Most people are very poor at Recognizing Slow Motion Disasters…

1887-Present:​


Obviously the average layperson knows just as much about the climate as experts who have devoted their entire careers to studying it. :roll:


Show us the webpage on agu.org where that chart came from. The actual webpage.

EDIT: What ttwtt78640 said. :lol:
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

How did we get 40 days below 32F in the early 20th century?

edit: beaten like a redheaded stepchild

edit: Oh, it's a running 30-year total.
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

Forget pipsqueak Crack-Pot/Crack-Pipe Anthony Watts, whose greatest fame is on This message board it seems, mainly OCD-ed up by one Spammer here.
The talk of AGU16 is Arctic warmth.
From AGU of course:

13 DECEMBER 2016
Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU Meeting In San Francisco. You Can See Many Talks Online.
Posted by Dan Satterfield
Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU Meeting In San Francisco. You Can See Many Talks Online. - Dan's Wild Wild Science Journal - AGU Blogosphere

Highlights

*The average surface air temperature for the year ending September 2016 is by far the highest since 1900, and new monthly record highs were recorded for January, February, October and November 2016.

*After only modest changes from 2013-2015, minimum sea ice extent at the end of summer 2016 tied with 2007 for the second lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1979.

*Spring snow cover extent in the North American Arctic was the lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1967.

*In 37 years of Greenland ice sheet observations, only one year had earlier onset of spring melting than 2016.

*The Arctic Ocean is especially prone to ocean acidification, due to water temperatures that are colder than those further south. The short Arctic food chain leaves Arctic marine ecosystems vulnerable to ocean acidification events.

*Thawing permafrost releases carbon into the atmosphere, whereas greening tundra absorbs atmospheric carbon. Overall, tundra is presently Releasing Net carbon into the atmosphere.
...
With a real outbreak of Arctic air coming this week, you may hear something along the lines of “Where’s the global warming?” from someone. YOU probably know how silly that question is, but they don’t. The graph below from my friend (and fellow Meteorologist) Greg Fishel at WRAL-TV in Raleigh, is the perfect response to that question. He plotted a running 30 year total of the number of December days at or below 32 degrees in Raleigh. Most people are very poor at Recognizing Slow Motion Disasters…

1887-Present:

15493510_10158043776785724_5310816275263705823_o-768x523.png

Cause, or response?

If response, response to what? So many factors to consider, rather than assuming with confirmation bias.
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

Cause, or response?

If response, response to what? So many factors to consider, rather than assuming with confirmation bias.

Oh my god, there are factors that affect climate!? JESUS CHRIST WHY DIDNT ANYONE TELL ME!?
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

Exciting news. Climate changes all the time and leads to the emergence and disappearance of a variety of species. It will be interesting to see what new species develop.
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

Exciting news. Climate changes all the time and leads to the emergence and disappearance of a variety of species. It will be interesting to see what new species develop.

I think you might be struggling with the concept of timescales.

It's a common problem with deniers.
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

Oh my god, there are factors that affect climate!? JESUS CHRIST WHY DIDNT ANYONE TELL ME!?

You never listen. You keep chanting the dogma.
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

I think you might be struggling with the concept of timescales.

It's a common problem with deniers.
I am not denying anything. All species impact their environment and other forces cause environmental changes also. Humans cause environmental changes. And, yes, on a more rapid scale than many other events and certainly more than any other species. It took cyanobacteria 2 billion years to produce enough oxygen for humans, apparently.

I just think that species do what they do, motivated by their DNA, and it is almost as foolish to think that homo sapiens can act against their DNA anymore than those cyanobacteria and other species. All species are on earth for a limited time and then are gone. Maybe homo sapiens will be replaced by a more "evolved" species that has more control.

Added: Are you a humanist who believe that somehow homo sapiens are different from all other species in some amazing way?
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

I am not denying anything. All species impact their environment and other forces cause environmental changes also. Humans cause environmental changes. And, yes, on a more rapid scale than many other events and certainly more than any other species. It took cyanobacteria 2 billion years to produce enough oxygen for humans, apparently.

I just think that species do what they do, motivated by their DNA, and it is almost as foolish to think that homo sapiens can act against their DNA anymore than those cyanobacteria and other species. All species are on earth for a limited time and then are gone. Maybe homo sapiens will be replaced by a more "evolved" species that has more control.

Added: Are you a humanist who believe that somehow homo sapiens are different from all other species in some amazing way?

No- I'm a guy who understands the timescales of both evolution and AGW induced climate change.
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

No- I'm a guy who understands the timescales of both evolution and AGW induced climate change.
Well, there has been a lot of recent research that changes that model of slow evolutionary changes.
Such as:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cities-create-accidental-experiments-plant-animal-evolution

I just don't see much hope in homo sapiens responding effectively to this. The people giving it the biggest lip service are the worst offenders.
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

You never listen. You keep chanting the dogma.

Listen to what, exactly? What point do you think you're making?
 
Re: Arctic Warmth is the Talk of the AGU16 Meeting In San Francisco6

I thought the topic of the thread was -"arctic-warmth-talk-agu-meeting-san-francisco"
Why was the graph the number of December days above freezing in Raleigh, NC?
 
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