AR15s in the House

[jaeger19]

Sheeit.
My AR15 is so deadly because of the Magpul grip that it patrols the property by itself.

Just looking at that grip too hard can cause blindness..

 

[SMTA]

Just looking at that grip too hard can cause blindness..

That’s what she said

 

[Ahlevah]

Yeah, God forbid they did something constructive like got out in the yard and played soccer.

You can’t eat or defend yourself with a soccer ball.

 

[noonereal]

You can’t eat or defend yourself with a soccer ball.

lol

Oh, we need to kill bambi for food do we?
A kid is more likely to use his gun to threaten to defend


Heed my advice. Buy a soccer ball.

 

[braindrain]

lol

Oh, we need to kill bambi for food do we?
A kid is more likely to use his gun to threaten to defend


Heed my advice. Buy a soccer ball.

Let’s see you prove your claim.

 

[noonereal]

Let’s see you prove your claim.

Easy to find fact, I a not your bitch. And guess who are most threatened ?

The wife or girlfriend of the big bad gun owner.

 

[RF667799]

lol

Oh, we need to kill bambi for food do we?
A kid is more likely to use his gun to threaten to defend


Heed my advice. Buy a soccer ball.

If we want to eat "Bambi", then yes. Same way if we want to eat a ribeye, "Ferdinand" has to die.

 

[braindrain]

Easy to find fact, I a not your bitch. And guess who are most threatened ?

The wife or girlfriend of the big bad gun owner.

So you can’t. That’s what I thought.
Must be rather embarrassing.

 

[Cordelier]

It's a good hobby and a fine father/son bonding experience.

I'll bet Nancy Lanza thought guns would help her bond with her son as well.

 

[Rucker61]

I'll bet Nancy Lanza thought guns would help her bond with her son as well.

Anecdote <> data.

 

[Cordelier]

Anecdote <> data.

The 27 deaths is all the data I need.

 

[Rucker61]

The 27 deaths is all the data I need.

Are you ignoring the bonding that happens every year without deaths or crime? I think you are.

 

[Cordelier]

Are you ignoring the bonding that happens every year without deaths or crime? I think you are.

Are you ignoring the fact that for this bonding to occur, a semi-automatic rifle isn't necessary? People can't bond over a bolt-action rifle? Lever action isn't good enough?
Nope. Gotta be a semi-auto. The meaner looking the better. Got to play soldier and blast away at tin cans.

How many of those 27 lives in cost were worth the benefits derived from the rifle?

I just keep thinking... if I were the Governor of Connecticut in the year before Sandy Hook, and I somehow knew something like that was going to happen somewhere in my State in the next year... I didn't know where or who was going to carry it out. What would I do about it? Just shrug my shoulders and say, "Oh well, that's the price of freedom"? I know freedom isn't free and that blood needs to be shed to maintain it.... but I always figure it'd be soldiers who would pay that price. I get that. But not a bunch 6 year-olds. I mean, c'mon... surely to God it's worth sacrificing a little freedom to protect a bunch of first graders from getting massacred.

 

[Rucker61]

Are you ignoring the fact that for this bonding to occur, a semi-automatic rifle isn't necessary? People can't bond over a bolt-action rifle? Lever action isn't good enough?
Nope. Gotta be a semi-auto. The meaner looking the better. Got to play soldier and blast away at tin cans.

They're building it together as part of the bonding. You aren't going to do that with a bolt action rifle or a lever action rifle. We have had mass shootings with both bolt action and lever action rifles. Were those lost lives worth less due to the type of firearm?

How many of those 27 lives in cost were worth the benefits derived from the rifle?

In the Sandy Hook case, none. How many lives have been lost to this father and son activity? None.

I just keep thinking... if I were the Governor of Connecticut in the year before Sandy Hook, and I somehow knew something like that was going to happen somewhere in my State in the next year... I didn't know where or who was going to carry it out. What would I do about it? Just shrug my shoulders and say, "Oh well, that's the price of freedom"? I know freedom isn't free and that blood needs to be shed to maintain it.... but I always figure it'd be soldiers who would pay that price. I get that. But not a bunch 6 year-olds. I mean, c'mon... surely to God it's worth sacrificing a little freedom to protect a bunch of first graders from getting massacred.

You'd have to ban an awful lot of guns, and actually confiscate them, to ensure no children are killed in school shootings.

You do realize that under the 1994 ban, the rifle used at Sandy Hook wasn't an "assault weapon", right?

 

[Cordelier]

They're building it together as part of the bonding. You aren't going to do that with a bolt action rifle or a lever action rifle. We have had mass shootings with both bolt action and lever action rifles. Were those lost lives worth less due to the type of firearm?


In the Sandy Hook case, none. How many lives have been lost to this father and son activity? None.



You'd have to ban an awful lot of guns, and actually confiscate them, to ensure no children are killed in school shootings.

You do realize that under the 1994 ban, the rifle used at Sandy Hook wasn't an "assault weapon", right?

Well, like I said, I'm sure Nancy Lanza thought her interest in semi-autos was harmless as well... it was probably the only interest she shared with her son.

We've had this debate for what seems like a thousand times. You ought to know by now that I'm not a gun banner. But we do need to tighten up the rules about how they're stored and maintained. I don't think - from everything I've read - that she was any kind of wing-nut. I just don't think she was fully aware of the gravity of owning such a weapon entails.

 

[Rucker61]

Well, like I said, I'm sure Nancy Lanza thought her interest in semi-autos was harmless as well... it was probably the only interest she shared with her son.

He had pistols that could have been just as effective, given that the two he had were more powerful than the two used by the VT shooter who killed 30 adults at school.

We've had this debate for what seems like a thousand times. You ought to know by now that I'm not a gun banner. But we do need to tighten up the rules about how they're stored and maintained.

She had a safe for her guns.

I don't think - from everything I've read - that she was any kind of wing-nut. I just don't think she was fully aware of the gravity of owning such a weapon entails.

Like handguns?

We've owned semiautomatic rifles for over a century. We have over 20 million AR-15s. They've have been used by a civilian in a mass shooting about 30 times in 58 years.

US mass shootings, 1982–2025: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

The full data set from our in-depth investigation into mass shootings.

www.motherjones.com

 

[Cordelier]

He had pistols that could have been just as effective, given that the two he had were more powerful than the two used by the VT shooter who killed 30 adults at school.

She had a safe for her guns.

Like handguns?

We've owned semiautomatic rifles for over a century. We have over 20 million AR-15s. They've have been used by a civilian in a mass shooting about 30 times in 58 years.

US mass shootings, 1982–2025: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

The full data set from our in-depth investigation into mass shootings.

www.motherjones.com

So that's it, then? Those kids deaths are just the price of freedom.

Not even going to attempt to try a cost-benefit argument? Handguns I can see... self protection and all of that. But unless you're getting attacked by a squad of North Korean sappers, you don't need a semi-auto rifle to defend yourself. And you don't hunt with one unless you're an idiot.

Let's face it... people only get one because they want to play soldier on the weekend. Blast away at tin cans and such. Piss off the libtards. 'Murica!

If that's you thing, that's on you. But you're in the same boat as Nancy Lanza. I'm sure that was her thing too.

 

[RF667799]

So that's it, then? Those kids deaths are just the price of freedom.

Not even going to attempt to try a cost-benefit argument? Handguns I can see... self protection and all of that. But unless you're getting attacked by a squad of North Korean sappers, you don't need a semi-auto rifle to defend yourself. And you don't hunt with one unless you're an idiot.

Let's face it... people only get one because they want to play soldier on the weekend. Blast away at tin cans and such. Piss off the libtards. 'Murica!

If that's you thing, that's on you. But you're in the same boat as Nancy Lanza. I'm sure that was her thing too.

That's not an argument.

It's an outburst of bigotry.

 

[SMTA]

I'll bet Nancy Lanza thought guns would help her bond with her son as well.

I ain’t ****ing Lanza
Post your insulting stupid ****ing garbage elsewhere

 

[SMTA]

So that's it, then? Those kids deaths are just the price of freedom.

Not even going to attempt to try a cost-benefit argument? Handguns I can see... self protection and all of that. But unless you're getting attacked by a squad of North Korean sappers, you don't need a semi-auto rifle to defend yourself. And you don't hunt with one unless you're an idiot.

Let's face it... people only get one because they want to play soldier on the weekend. Blast away at tin cans and such. Piss off the libtards. 'Murica!

If that's you thing, that's on you. But you're in the same boat as Nancy Lanza. I'm sure that was her thing too.

You have no knowledge why people buy guns
Face it that your posts are all ****ing ignorant

 

[Cordelier]

I ain’t ****ing Lanza
Post your insulting stupid ****ing garbage elsewhere

You don't know that. You think she had an inkling of what was going to happen to her?

 

[multivita-man]

Built my first AR15 5.56 in May.
My son and I are building his AR15 5.56 this week.
We will be building my second 5.56 AR15 around Christmas from extra parts
We are also scheduling a Spring build of an AR15 7.62 x 39
Certainly more to come.

Love the freedoms in the USA.

Good source for complete guns and assembled uppers www.bearcreekarsenal.com
Good parts source www.OpticsPlanet.com
www.amazon.com has many parts and excellent prices

Wow, congrats...I guess.

I coulda given to charity but decided I wanted to make the world a better place, so I built some ****ing bombs and shit.

(sarcasm mode on in case someone wants to report this post to BATF, lol)

 

[Cordelier]

That's not an argument.

It's an outburst of bigotry.

Seems pretty factual to me. If you want to go out and choose to arm yourselves with these guns, then you're just as culpable as Nancy Lanza.

It's a conscious choice you make. I'm just calling it like it is.

 

[Rucker61]

So that's it, then? Those kids deaths are just the price of freedom.

No, that's not "it". Those kids deaths happened because someone decided to kill them. The victims at Santa Fe High School were just as dead as the victims at Parkland, even though the Santa Fe shooter used a .38 revolver and a pump shotgun, two firearms invented in the 19th century.

Not even going to attempt to try a cost-benefit argument? Handguns I can see... self protection and all of that. But unless you're getting attacked by a squad of North Korean sappers, you don't need a semi-auto rifle to defend yourself. And you don't hunt with one unless you're an idiot.

Let's face it... people only get one because they want to play soldier on the weekend. Blast away at tin cans and such. Piss off the libtards. 'Murica!

Strange that you believe this. There are shooting competitions where such a firearm is the only firearm allowed.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 found that legitimate uses of firearms included “…hunting, trapshooting, target shooting, personal protection, or any other lawful activity”.

Common legal uses for AR-15s and similar firearms:
1. Long distance shooting. http://thecmp.org/competitions/service-rifle/
2. Competition - http://3gunnation.com/news
3. Practice – for long distance or competition
4. Plinking/recreational shooting – cheapest centerfire ammo, low recoil, adaptable frame.
5. Varmint hunting - https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2013/1/10/best-ar-15-calibers-for-predator-hunting/
6. Big game hunting, in the proper caliber and legal magazine. - http://www.fieldandstream.com/artic...r-style-rifles-chambered-for-big-game-hunting
7. Self-defense. - http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammo/ultimate-300-aac-blackout-ammo-test/

You seem to be ignoring the 30/20,000,000 data.

If that's you thing, that's on you. But you're in the same boat as Nancy Lanza. I'm sure that was her thing too.

I have no idea what her "thing" was, and find no value in guessing. My uses can be found in the list I just provided you.

More people are killed every single year by someone using a bladed weapon than have ever been killed in a mass shooting by a civilian using an AR-15 in 58 years.

All that banning AR-15s would do is add another 5 to 10 million to civilian ownership.

 

[Rucker61]

You don't know that. You think she had an inkling of what was going to happen to her?

Of course not, or she wouldn't have purchased that bolt action .22 Savage Mark II .22-caliber rifle.