Apparently, Americans are souring on big government right when Biden is seeking it

[gbg3]

Independents have especially soured on the idea.

MSN

 

[STUT]

And yet, large majorities WANT many of the things that Biden/Democrats have been proposing. Chris Cillzza (and "pundits" like him) exist to foment manufactured discontent to get clicks

 

[phoenix2020]

The underlying poll.

Americans Revert to Favoring Reduced Government Role

Americans once again say the government is doing too many things that should be left to individuals and businesses.

news.gallup.com

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Independents have especially soured on the idea.

MSN

Its a big country.

we're going to need a big government. get used to it.
Who's going to supply and administer to my free BidenCare™ healthcare plan?

trump said it would be better, cheaper and cover everyone....but nothing even happened.

Biden gets in.....and all of a sudden I have a 100% free BidenCare™ plan.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I'm just not seeing the problem with free stuff. You folks aren't looking at this rationally. IMO

 

[Integrityrespec]

And yet, large majorities WANT many of the things that Biden/Democrats have been proposing. Chris Cillzza (and "pundits" like him) exist to foment manufactured discontent to get clicks

I believe if you break down the Biden plan piece by piece you will find that people are not in favor of his total plan. That's why the dems are pushing so hard to get it passed, they know it's not going to get the favor of the nation on whole. They shouldn't have tried to pass such a massive socialist program with such a small majority in Congress. Joe has messed up very badly and either he or who ever advises him doesn't see it of doesn't care. It's one thing to say you like the Biden plan and another to say you like all of the Biden Plan. So what you have is some people like A, some B, some C, some D, some E, but practically none of them like more than a couple of the parts and most really dislike at least one program enough to get in the way of voting for it. The dems know this and are trying to ramrodl it through.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Its a big country.

we're going to need a big government. get used to it.
Who's going to supply and administer to my free BidenCare™ healthcare plan?

trump said it would be better, cheaper and cover everyone....but nothing even happened.

Biden gets in.....and all of a sudden I have a 100% free BidenCare™ plan.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I'm just not seeing the problem with free stuff. You folks aren't looking at this rationally. IMO

I blame the republicans in the Senate for the failure on healthcare. What's wrong with free stuff? Nothing is actually free, somebody has to pay and I'm in that group that keeps seeing the effects of bad policy, too much free stuff and too many free loaders.

 

[Greenbeard]

Currently, 77% of Republicans prefer fewer services and lower taxes, while 15% want no change and 7% prefer higher taxes and more services.

When GOP Boomers agree to accept cuts to their government checks and Medicare benefits so I can enjoy lower taxes, I'll believe it. Until then this is just meaningless rhetorical opposition to abstract "services" and "regulations."

 

[Taylor]

And yet, large majorities WANT many of the things that Biden/Democrats have been proposing.

Maybe in a ho-hum sort of way. If a pollster were to ask me if I "WANT" Halloween to be on Saturday I'd say yes. Looks like it's going to be on Sunday. That's fine, too. No biggie.

Dems should be addressing issues people actually care about.

Lol - whatever happened to this guy?

I understand what this president hasn’t from the beginning: We will never get our economy back on track, we will never get our kids safely back in school, we will never have our lives back until we deal with this virus.

Guess he sort of forgot. On to unions and climate change!

 

[ttwtt78640]

Its a big country.

we're going to need a big government. get used to it.
Who's going to supply and administer to my free BidenCare™ healthcare plan?

trump said it would be better, cheaper and cover everyone....but nothing even happened.

Biden gets in.....and all of a sudden I have a 100% free BidenCare™ plan.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I'm just not seeing the problem with free stuff. You folks aren't looking at this rationally. IMO

The problem is not so much the “free” stuff - it’s printing the funds to make it (appear to be) “free”.

 

[Craig234]

I'm shocked. Plutocrats spend billions on right-wing propaganda attacking government spending on the citizens 24x7, and some citizens have a negative few of the government spending money on the citizens. It makes no sense!

 

[gbg3]

And, this discusses the topic of paying for the big bill by only taxing the rich and not the middle class.

MSN

 

[Ikari]

Independents have especially soured on the idea.

MSN

Oh....now we're souring on it? Not when Government was in its biggest expansion eras, but now?

lol

Enjoy your Real ID.

 

[gbg3]

Oh....now we're souring on it? Not when Government was in its biggest expansion eras, but now?

lol

Enjoy your Real ID.

Real ID?

 

[Craig234]

Real ID?

One of Republicans' expansions of government power.

 

[Phys251]

Independents have especially soured on the idea.

MSN

Good god, that's ONE DATA POINT. Didn't you learn in your Statistics class to never draw conclusions from a single data point?

 

[KingLeo]

False.
Many polls showing the majority of Americans are IN FAVOR of the Democrats infrastructure bills and the expansion of Medicare

 

[Noodlegawd]

I'm shocked. Plutocrats spend billions on right-wing propaganda attacking government spending on the citizens 24x7, and some citizens have a negative few of the government spending money on the citizens. It makes no sense!

Good point, because it's not like there's billions of dollars worth of left-wing propaganda out there telling us we have a human right to get all kinds of free stuff from the government.

 

[Ikari]

Real ID?

You don't know? Perchance you should investigate the Patriot Act and the Real ID Act, and come back to me bitching about "Big Government".

 

[Craig234]

Many polls showing the majority of Americans are IN FAVOR of the Democrats infrastructure bills and the expansion of Medicare

But if you CALL it by the name Republicans want, 'big government', maybe polls are against that. Like the way the public loved what was in Obamacare, but were 'against' 'Obamacare'.

 

[Greenbeard]

But if you CALL it by the name Republicans want, 'big government', maybe polls are against that. Like the way the public loved what was in Obamacare, but were 'against' 'Obamacare'.

 

[KingLeo]

But if you CALL it by the name Republicans want, 'big government', maybe polls are against that. Like the way the public loved what was in Obamacare, but were 'against' 'Obamacare'.

I would agree with you.
Republicans are great at mislabeling things and their followers not willing to be self informed.

 

[danielpalos]

We could be solving simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States with existing legal and physical infrastructure.

 

[ttwtt78640]

We could be solving simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States with existing legal and physical infrastructure.

States are not going to agree to pay people who simply elect not to work. Your “solving simple poverty” scheme of taxing those who elect to work in order to pay those who elect not to work is a tad too ridiculous for California to consider.

 

[gbg3]

Another taste of how Americans feel about the supposedly so popular social spending bill.

MSN

 

[gbg3]

False.
Many polls showing the majority of Americans are IN FAVOR of the Democrats infrastructure bills and the expansion of Medicare

That's what Dems keep saying but see post #24 for a different perspective, if you want to read a different perspective. Pushing through legislation based on a narrative (rather than the reality) of how Americans will feel about it could be quite risky to a party's strength/numbers going forth. If Dems lose the biggest group of voters, Independents, they won't win just as Republicans won't if they lose Independents. I don't think you could find any poll delivering good news about what has happened to Dem support of this administration.