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[h=1]AP Newsbreak: Source says Rice video sent to NFL[/h]A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive five months ago, while Commissioner Roger Goddell has insisted the league didn't see the violent images until this week.
ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. —
A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive five months ago, while Commissioner Roger Goddell has insisted the league didn't see the violent images until this week.
The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."
The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can't confirm anyone watched the video. The person said he was unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited, because he wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice's punishment.
Gooddell is about to loose his job over this.
Gooddell is about to loose his job over this.
He bloody well should. I won't, however, put money on it. And if he does, would the assumption be then that no one else in NFL viewed the video 5 months ago? Not likely. How many others and who else has been sitting on the information?
Just curious - on what grounds would/should he lose his job? I keep seeing that but I'm trying to understand why. And who can fire him?
If I am not mistaken the NFL team owners can fire Goddell. If his is fired it will be because it's best for business. NFL team owners are in it for business first and foremost. Goddell's future will be a business decision and will have IMHO little to nothing to do with thuggish behavior or battering women. If Goddell could skate publicly it wouldn't even be an issue. It is not all about doing the right. I really don't believe it is.
Having said that they'll have to trump up reasons and they will if it comes to that. If he leaves he will likely "resign" and "take one for the team".
Just curious - on what grounds would/should he lose his job? I keep seeing that but I'm trying to understand why. And who can fire him?
I still don't know when he became responsible for domestic violence in this country.
Greetings, tres borrachos. :2wave:
I was discussing the Rice thing today with a friend, and I was told that an NFL team can get rid of anyone they like, and the contract that was signed is meaningless. When I questioned how a signed contract isn't a legal document, I was asked why I thought most players demand the bulk of their money up front - they know how the "cookie crumbles." When I argued that it didn't seem fair to the owners, since a player can get hurt or die without playing any games for the money he has already received, I was told that's just how it's done.
I still don't believe it. Could that be true, or was I just being razzed? :shock:
I think if anything, he'll resign. NOW is calling for his resignation now too. I'm not sure why that is. I still don't know when he became responsible for domestic violence in this country.
NOW is calling for his resignation now too. I'm not sure why that is.
Greetings, tres borrachos. :2wave:
I was discussing the Rice thing today with a friend, and I was told that an NFL team can get rid of anyone they like, and the contract that was signed is meaningless. When I questioned how a signed contract isn't a legal document, I was asked why I thought most players demand the bulk of their money up front - they know how the "cookie crumbles." When I argued that it didn't seem fair to the owners, since a player can get hurt or die without playing any games for the money he has already received, I was told that's just how it's done.
I still don't believe it. Could that be true, or was I just being razzed? :shock:
Failed leadership in the context of a "violence against women problem" in the NFL.
NOW issued the following press release:
The NFL has lost its way. It doesn’t have a Ray Rice problem; it has a violence against women problem.
•According to FiveThirtyEight.com, the relative arrest rate of NFL players is fifty-five percent for domestic violence, and thirty-eight percent for sex offenses.
•Days after announcing his new domestic violence policy, Goodell said Ray McDonald of the San Francisco 49ers, who is facing a felony domestic violence charge, could play in the team’s season opener against the Dallas Cowboys.
•Greg Hardy is still playing for the Carolina Panthers, even after being convicted in July of choking his former girlfriend and threatening to kill her.
Goodell’s response to accusations that Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones sexually assaulted a woman has been: radio silence.
The only workable solution is for Roger Goodell to resign, and for his successor to appoint an independent investigator with full authority to gather factual data about domestic violence, dating violence, sexual assault and stalking within the NFL community, and to recommend real and lasting reforms.
The NFL sets the example for college, high school, middle school and even elementary school football programs. And the example it is setting right now is simply unacceptable.
New leadership must come in with a specific charge to transform the culture of violence against women that pervades the NFL.
That’s the only way to restore honor and integrity to the country’s most lucrative and popular pastime.
NOW Calls for Roger Goodell
Failed leadership in the context of a "violence against women problem" in the NFL.
NOW issued the following press release:
The NFL has lost its way. It doesn’t have a Ray Rice problem; it has a violence against women problem.
•According to FiveThirtyEight.com, the relative arrest rate of NFL players is fifty-five percent for domestic violence, and thirty-eight percent for sex offenses.
•Days after announcing his new domestic violence policy, Goodell said Ray McDonald of the San Francisco 49ers, who is facing a felony domestic violence charge, could play in the team’s season opener against the Dallas Cowboys.
•Greg Hardy is still playing for the Carolina Panthers, even after being convicted in July of choking his former girlfriend and threatening to kill her.
Goodell’s response to accusations that Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones sexually assaulted a woman has been: radio silence.
The only workable solution is for Roger Goodell to resign, and for his successor to appoint an independent investigator with full authority to gather factual data about domestic violence, dating violence, sexual assault and stalking within the NFL community, and to recommend real and lasting reforms.
The NFL sets the example for college, high school, middle school and even elementary school football programs. And the example it is setting right now is simply unacceptable.
New leadership must come in with a specific charge to transform the culture of violence against women that pervades the NFL.
That’s the only way to restore honor and integrity to the country’s most lucrative and popular pastime.
NOW Calls for Roger Goodell
In fairness to Goodell and the players, these players are targets for all kinds of frivolous claims. I'm not saying that they're angels but in any case where a player is accused of domestic abuse, rape or assault they shouldn't be booted until the facts become clear. It's just WAY too easy for someone to get "friendly" with a 25 year old mulch-millionaire then abuse that position against them.
Hi Pol! Happy Hump Day!
I don't know either? I always thought a contract was binding. Even for players, I mean. If they cut you loose, they still owe you the money. I never heard that they get it up front. When Mr. B was a pro hockey player, he sure didn't get anything up front.
I actually think the only workable solution is to prohibit the thugs who assault women, electrocute dogs, deal drugs, shoot themselves in the legs with illegal guns, drive drunk and kill people, and so on get punished by the justice system. It sounds like the problem is with the players.
NOW is not relevant as much as they try to be. This is a failure. Why don't they contact Janay Rice and ask her why she married the guy who abused her?
...someone is looking for money here - and it isn't just Janay Rice.
Failed leadership in the context of a "violence against women problem" in the NFL.
NOW issued the following press release:
Interesting. Lots of anonymity in that story.
Why is nobody outraged that the state of NJ knew what happened and let him off with "intervention"?\.
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