Anyone over fifty, can you ever recall a time in your life where shootings were so common?

[Simpletruther]

I’m sure you have some links that back up your post.

Well the homicide rate was higher. Don't know about schools.

 

[Rexedgar]

Many parents have have abdicated to electronics, drugs and turning their responsibilities over the teachers, IMO.

 

[Simpletruther]

Isn't that an issue beside the point?

It gets to consistency. If you can't be consistent your argument is flawed.

 

[Rexedgar]

Well the homicide rate was higher. Don't know about schools.

It’s only a click away:

Charts & Graphs - CHDS School Shooting Safety Compendium

Shooting Incidents at K-12 Schools (Jan 1970-Jun 2022) Shooting Incidents charts are based on publicly available data on incidents from the beginning of 1970 through June of 2022 following the definition of each and every instance a gun is brandished, is fired, or a bullet hits school property...

www.chds.us

 

[Daisy]

It gets to consistency. If you can't be consistent your argument is flawed.

It also boils down to intent...one way is unintentional, the other is intentional...apples and oranges...

 

[Glitch]

I'm seventy and grew up in a big northeastern city but I don't remember hearing about shootings almost every day and there was no such thing as a school shooting. How has america become so jaded to today's gun violence where we basically do nothing no matter how many of our kids are killed in school and people are killed everywhere including houses of worship?

Why do we not do something about it. Is owning a firearm really more important than life itself?

If you could be guaranteed for every gun you turned in one life would be saved, would you turn in your firearms?

If you don't remember the massive amount of violence by leftist filth during the 1960s and 1970s, then your memory is truly gone. At no other time in US history have leftists been responsible for so much death and destruction than during those two decades. We had a much higher murder ratio during the 1960s and 1970s than we do today. Riots were rampant as mentally-deranged leftist filth set fire to cities across the nation.

Then you had the leftist terrorist organizations, like the Weather Underground (Obama's hero) created in Ann Arbor, Michigan, setting off bombs and intentionally targeting the police. And the Symbionese Liberation Army out of Berkley (the first leftist ANTIFA terrorist organization) that went around kidnapping people and robbing banks. A couple of these leftist terrorist organizations from the 1970s continue to exist today, like ALF and ELF, and they continue to harm others and cause millions in damage.

It is your mentally-deranged leftist filth causing all the violence and destruction in the US, and they have been for the last 70+ years. Leftist filth never pass up an opportunity to demonstrate their hatred for their own nation through violence, as has been demonstrated over the last seven decades.

 

[Simpletruther]

It also boils down to intent...one way is unintentional, the other is intentional...apples and oranges...

If kids can be saved, i don't see the point of the distinction.

It's not as important to save kids from accidents?

 

[craig]

I’m sure you have some links that back up your post.

Researching news information from before the general use of computers were used to save local and regional information (~1985) is very difficult and expensive. If it exists at all it is on microfiche or hardcopy.

 

[Simpletruther]

It’s only a click away:

Charts & Graphs - CHDS School Shooting Safety Compendium

Shooting Incidents at K-12 Schools (Jan 1970-Jun 2022) Shooting Incidents charts are based on publicly available data on incidents from the beginning of 1970 through June of 2022 following the definition of each and every instance a gun is brandished, is fired, or a bullet hits school property...

www.chds.us

So they were farily steady until 2015.

And shootings were much more in the past, just not in Schools.

 

[Glitch]

School shootings have increased, but they are extremely rare events. The 'shootings' that you hear about all the time (street crime / general mayhem) are at about half the level they were from 1975-1990. The increase is from the media reporting it.

Of course school shootings have increased, as Democrats intended.

Why do you think Democrats created "Gun Free Zones" and then advertised them to make certain that every crazy armed with a gun knew where they could kill with impunity? Democrats specifically want people to die in large numbers, particularly children. That has always been their goal. Why else would Democrats intentionally create these massacre magnets?

 

[Rexedgar]

So they were farily steady until 2015.

And shootings were much more in the past, just not in Schools.

The poster I responded to said school shootings were just as common, fifty year ag as today, that why the graph deals with school shootings…..

 

[Ginger Ale]

I'm seventy and grew up in a big northeastern city but I don't remember hearing about shootings almost every day and there was no such thing as a school shooting. How has america become so jaded to today's gun violence where we basically do nothing no matter how many of our kids are killed in school and people are killed everywhere including houses of worship?

Why do we not do something about it. Is owning a firearm really more important than life itself?

If you could be guaranteed for every gun you turned in one life would be saved, would you turn in your firearms?

They weren't part of our childhoods. Not like this. That's because of the new translations of the 2nd, and the abuse of them by the NRA, and gun manufacturers.

Here's a good video explaining the history of it, and you'll see in the time line when things started to elevate to this outrageous monstrosity we call freedom now.

 

[Glitch]

US homicide rate per 100,000

Hard to find current, but some more current:

At least you provided factual information, which is more than can be said about the OP's failing memory.

 

[Simpletruther]

The poster I responded to said school shootings were just as common, fifty year ag as today, that why the graph deals with school shootings…..

Ok. School shootings are relatively new. I think it has a lot more to do with modern culture, social media and simply the pa Dora's box was opened and mentally disturbed kids now see the fame they can get by doing it.

It doesn't look proportional to guns or regular homicide trends.

 

[Glitch]

They weren't part of our childhoods. Not like this. That's because of the new translations of the 2nd, and the abuse of them by the NRA, and gun manufacturers.

Here's a good video explaining the history of it, and you'll see in the time line when things started to elevate to this outrageous monstrosity we call freedom now.

Actually, they were part of our childhoods. When I first started hunting the unconstitutional Gun Control Act of 1968 didn't exist. Neither did the unconstitutional Firearm Owner's Protection Act of 1986, and there were no unconstitutional background checks. I was bringing my firearms to school, along with many of my classmates, so we could go hunting after class.

The NRA was also very anti-Second Amendment and pro-gun control at that time. It was the NRA who wrote the unconstitutional Gun Control Act of 1968 and co-wrote the unconstitutional Firearm Owner's Protection Act of 1986. Gun Owners of America was created in the 1970s specifically to oppose the NRA's anti-Second Amendment position. It would not be until after the election of Joe Foss as the NRA President in 1989 before the NRA turned around and became pro-Second Amendment.

Don't look now, but your leftist ignorance is showing - again.

 

[trouble13]

I'm seventy and grew up in a big northeastern city but I don't remember hearing about shootings almost every day and there was no such thing as a school shooting. How has america become so jaded to today's gun violence where we basically do nothing no matter how many of our kids are killed in school and people are killed everywhere including houses of worship?

Why do we not do something about it. Is owning a firearm really more important than life itself?

If you could be guaranteed for every gun you turned in one life would be saved, would you turn in your firearms?

From reading your posts I thought you were 7 (joking)

I think the difference is technology. We hear about more because of the internet and cable news.

Something else to consider is that the country's population has more than doubled since 1953. The raw number of shooting per year has.probably also doubled making it seem like it's more frequent than it is.

 

[Glitch]

I'm 66, grew up 40 miles north of Philly where there were NO shootings. Philly was another story when the Black Panthers took over in the late 60's, but that was a different world we only saw on the news.

No shootings, just bombings by police. Or did you forget about when Philadelphia police dropped a bomb on 6621 Osage Avenue in Philadelphia which left eleven people dead, including five children, and burned down 61 homes? It also had nothing to do with the Black Panthers. You leftists wanted to evict squatters, and because they were black you decided to bomb them into oblivion over a civil matter. That was mighty progressive of you.

 

[Rickeroo]

Of course school shootings have increased, as Democrats intended.

Why do you think Democrats created "Gun Free Zones" and then advertised them to make certain that every crazy armed with a gun knew where they could kill with impunity? Democrats specifically want people to die in large numbers, particularly children. That has always been their goal. Why else would Democrats intentionally create these massacre magnets?

I agree somewhat. "Soft on crime" is probably involved in the recent increase. We have a long way to go before we reach the carnage levels of 1975-1991 though.

 

[Glitch]

I'm 69. The media is totally different now. We have gone from a half hour national news show on 2 perhaps 3 tv channels to 24 hour non-stop local, regional, and national news all aggregated up and transmitted over a myriad of media channels nationally. They all compete ravenously for "clicks" by finding the most sensational stories. If it bleeds it runs continuously. I doubt that is we allow for population and density that the actual violence has changed much..

Except that it is not news today.

TV News from the 1950s through the 1970s was so mind-numbingly boring that it could make your eyes bleed. Journalists merely recited the facts and provided no personal opinions. ABC, CBS, and NBC were losing money broadcasting the news, and during that time they treated the news as a public service.

It would not be until 1980, when CNN went online for the first time that demonstrated how the networks could make money broadcasting news. CNN called it "infotainment" in 1980, and they never pretended to broadcast actual news until 1984. In 1984 CNN suddenly, without changing a thing, became "News You Can Trust." Which of course has always been a lie.

It was during the 1980s when the networks became sycophants for the Democratic Party. They are propagandists today, not journalists like they were before CNN. There is a difference.

 

[Jessie C]

Isn't that an issue beside the point?

No shootings, just bombings by police. Or did you forget about when Philadelphia police dropped a bomb on 6621 Osage Avenue in Philadelphia which left eleven people dead, including five children, and burned down 61 homes? It also had nothing to do with the Black Panthers. You leftists wanted to evict squatters, and because they were black you decided to bomb them into oblivion over a civil matter. That was mighty progressive of you.

I was a kid. I didn't grow up in Philly. It didn't effect me, as I stated in my post. You are full of hate, aren't you?

 

[Glitch]

I agree somewhat. "Soft on crime" is probably involved in the recent increase. We have a long way to go before we reach the carnage levels of 1975-1991 though.

No. "Soft on crime" merely means an unwillingness to enforce existing law. We are talking a whole other level here, where Democrats actually enact laws with the specific intention of creating more crime - like their massacre magnets.

 

[Glitch]

I was a kid. I didn't grow up in Philly. It didn't effect me, as I stated in my post. You are full of hate, aren't you?

I was 31 when you bigoted leftists bombed the shit out of blacks in Philly over a civil matter, and I remember it quite well even though I was living in California at the time. I absolutely hate leftist filth with a passion, as would any intelligent human being with an understanding of their history. Or are you one of those who want to commend the intentional slaughter of 100+ million by leftist filth during the last century alone? There is no lower form of life than a mentally diseased leftist.

 

[Jessie C]

I was 31 when you bigoted leftists bombed the shit out of blacks in Philly over a civil matter, and I remember it quite well even though I was living in California at the time. I absolutely hate leftist filth with a passion, as would any intelligent human being with an understanding of their history. Or are you one of those who want to commend the intentional slaughter of 100+ million by leftist filth during the last century alone? There is no lower form of life than a mentally diseased leftist.

First of all, Glitch, I was a KID, I had NO political affiliation, and I bombed no one. I absolutely hate right wing filth with a passion because of folks like you. I'm done responding to your toxic posts.

 

[VySky]

I'm seventy and grew up in a big northeastern city but I don't remember hearing about shootings almost every day and there was no such thing as a school shooting. How has america become so jaded to today's gun violence where we basically do nothing no matter how many of our kids are killed in school and people are killed everywhere including houses of worship?

Why do we not do something about it. Is owning a firearm really more important than life itself?

If you could be guaranteed for every gun you turned in one life would be saved, would you turn in your firearms?

I disagree they are not 'common'.

 

[Glitch]

I remember when the police dropped a firebomb onto the roof of the 'move' folks and burned down a whole city block...of black folks in west philly.

At least someone else remembers.