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Anyone else disturbed that Trump even has a chance?

There is NEVER a reason to support a racist like Trump who encourages violence against his political rivals.

There is when his opponent is a racist who tacitly supports violence against HIS political rivals not to mention against police and business owners, whose running mate believes we should give free healthcare and education to millions of people who are here illegally and apparently do basically nothing to slow down the influx of more people coming here illegally to get free stuff, who lies to the American people about gun control, and who thinks the idiotic "Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face."
 
I've seen a white nationalist movement. And it's accepted by the Nazi Repug Party. Because the Nazi Repug Party is now a white supremacist party.
A claim that you've failed to show proof for, time and time again.

So it's nothing more than just another lie that you've decided to belt out. due to inherent childishness of your argument.
 
I have not seen a white nationalist movement, at least not one that's accepted by either party. And the only authoritarians I've seen were the democrats attempting to keep their own citizens confined to their own homes.

Why buy into the OP's nonsense?
Trump's handlers can point to Trump technically not saying "White Nationalist" or "Racist" statements - in strictly technical terms. But the dog whistles are there, for all to see.
 
All you're doing is giving an excuse, with no way to show that it's actually a valid claim.
We've had this system for this long now. So choosing to cry about it now, seems more like a means for you to vent your frustration.

Trump is going to try to get millions of absentee ballots thrown out. That's his only hope.
 
You all are proud of it. I was just reminding you what the Nazi Repug Party believes.
Sorry, but you were the one belting it out. So it's obvious that it's you that believes it and no one else.

I think you should've shelved your emotions and thought about that before decided to blurt out something so obviously contrived.

Though it will make for a nice signature later.
 
There is when his opponent is a racist who tacitly supports violence against HIS political rivals not to mention against police and business owners, whose running mate believes we should give free healthcare and education to millions of people who are here illegally and apparently do basically nothing to slow down the influx of more people coming here illegally to get free stuff, who lies to the American people about gun control, and who thinks the idiotic "Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face."

What violence against Trump supporters does Biden support? Name an example. With a quote from Biden. You've got nothing.
 
How totally incompetent does a president need to be to have almost no chance of reelection? We're in the midst of a pandemic and the president is out there spreading the virus. The president is accusing doctors of falsely diagnosing patients for money. His supporters chant, "Fire Fauci!" It's total insanity yet it's a close election.

Until Trump, I had no idea how many dumb people there were in this country. It's scary. I'm scared for this country.

We desperately need better educated citizens.

Unfortunately we're used to it after the last four years.
 
Sorry, but you were the one belting it out. So it's obvious that it's you that believes it and no one else.

I think you should've shelved your emotions and thought about that before decided to blurt out something so obviously contrived.

Though it will make for a nice signature later.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I'm a commie liberal, but I believe my commie hero Obama was born in another country. LOL.
 
Trump's handlers can point to Trump technically not saying "White Nationalist" or "Racist" statements - in strictly technical terms. But the dog whistles are there, for all to see.
So that means all of the dog whistles supporting rape, racism, murder, rioting and general violence. Are all perfectly placed on the democrats and their handlers, correct?

Are you really going to go this whole "dog whistle" route, knowing exactly how asinine of an argument it is Chomsky?
 
Trump is going to try to get millions of absentee ballots thrown out. That's his only hope.
If they're fraudulent ballots, it' something that I would expect of a correctly run system.
You on the other hand still have no proof to support your claims.
 
A claim that you've failed to show proof for, time and time again.

So it's nothing more than just another lie that you've decided to belt out. due to inherent childishness of your argument.

Yet you defend a racist like Trump. Doesn't get more childish than that.
 
So that means all of the dog whistles supporting rape, racism, murder, rioting and general violence. Are all perfectly placed on the democrats and their handlers, correct?

Are you really going to go this whole "dog whistle" route, knowing exactly how asinine of an argument it is Chomsky?
If I see dog-whistles, I call them out.
 
If they're fraudulent ballots, it' something that I would expect of a correctly run system.
You on the other hand still have no proof to support your claims.

Sure...Trump won't care if they're "fraudulent" or not.

You do realize that this fascist mother ****er will NEVER concede to Biden, no matter what?

You're obviously not a very good judge of character, but hopefully you at least understand that about Trump.
 
If they're fraudulent ballots, it' something that I would expect of a correctly run system.
You on the other hand still have no proof to support your claims.

You can't prove racism to racists. It's impossible.
 
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I'm a commie liberal, but I believe my commie hero Obama was born in another country. LOL.
Nothing about you, or your profile says commie, nor actually liberal. It mostly screams petulant, derogatory and sometimes overtly racist statements.
 
If I see dog-whistles, I call them out.
First, you hear dog-whistles, not see them and secondly. If you are the one receiving them, does that not give you pause?

Because as a black man and asking multiple people who've made that exact same statement as yourself, to supply "What" that exact dog-whistle is and I get either attacked on some baseless moral stance, or even racially attacked because I did not pick the correct side. It does not help me think that this dog-whistle argument, actually has a real basis in reality.

We've been having a very find set of discussions up to this point. Can you at least be up front with me on this?
 
Sure...Trump won't care if they're "fraudulent" or not.

You do realize that this fascist mother ****er will NEVER concede to Biden, no matter what?

You're obviously not a very good judge of character, but hopefully you at least understand that about Trump.
Once again, you can't even prove that he's a fascist. So how am I supposed to believe that this little prediction of yours is actually on the mark, especially when it was so far off the mark last time?
 
You can't prove racism to racists. It's impossible.
You do realize that you just called a black man. One who voted for Obama's first term, was disenfranchised the second time around and was literally chased out of his own party. By a racist subset of members, who spent several weeks either threatening my life, or my career and that of my niece's wellbeing...

A racist...?

Can you not see how far you are falling right now?
 
You would have to prove racism first. Which is where you keep failing in this little exchange.

Here's proof that Trump is a bigot. Below is what he said about Judge Gonzalo Curiel regarding the Trump University case. Trump judged this man based on his Hispanic heritage, even though Curiel is an American citizen. Discriminating against someone based on their heritage is the very definition of a bigot.

TAPPER: What does this have to do with his heritage?
TRUMP: I'll tell you what it has to do. I've had ruling after ruling after ruling that's been bad rulings, OK? I've been treated very unfairly. Before him, we had another judge. If that judge was still there, this case would have been over two years ago.
Let me just tell you, I've had horrible rulings, I've been treated very unfairly by this judge. Now, this judge is of Mexican heritage. I'm building a wall, OK? I'm building a wall. I am going to do very well with the Hispanics, the Mexicans --


TAPPER: So, no Mexican judge could ever be involved in a case that involves you?
TRUMP: Well, he's a member of a society, where -- you know, very pro-Mexico, and that's fine. It's all fine, but --
TAPPER: Except that you're calling into question his heritage.
TRUMP: I think he should recuse himself.
TAPPER: Because he's Latino?
TRUMP: Then, you also say, does he know the lawyer on the other side? I mean, does he know the lawyer? You know, a lot of people say --
TAPPER: But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about --
TRUMP: That's another problem.
TAPPER: You're invoking his race, talking about whether or not he can do his job.
TRUMP: Jake, I'm building a wall. OK? I'm building a wall. I'm trying to keep business out of Mexico. Mexico's fine.
TAPPER: But he's an American.
TRUMP: He's of Mexican heritage and he's very proud of it, as I am where I come from, my parents.
TAPPER: But he's an American. You keep talking about it's a conflict of interest because of Mexico.
TRUMP: Jake, are you ready? I have a case that should have already been dismissed. I have thousands of people saying Trump University is fantastic, OK? I have a case that should have been dismissed. A judge that never, ever gives -- now, we lose the plaintiff. He lets the plaintiff of the case out.
So, why isn't he calling the case? So, we thought we won the case.

TAPPER: So, you disagree with his rulings. I totally understand that.
TRUMP: I've had lawyers come up to me and say, you are being treated so unfairly. It's unbelievable. You know the plaintiffs in the case have all said wonderful things about the school and they're suing. You know why they're suing? Because they want to get their money back.
TAPPER: I don't want to really litigate the case of Trump University.
TRUMP: You have to, because if he was giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't say that.
TAPPER: My question is --
TRUMP: Jake, if you were giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't be talking to you this way. He's given me horrible rulings.
TAPPER: I don't care if you criticize him, that's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying, if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job.
TRUMP: I think that's why he's doing it. I think that's why he's doing it.
TAPPER: When Hillary Clinton says it's a racist attack --
TRUMP: Hillary Clinton is a stiff. If Hillary Clinton becomes president --
TAPPER: Paul Ryan today -- Paul Ryan today said he didn't care for the way that you are attacking this judge.
TRUMP: Look, I'm just telling you, Paul Ryan doesn't know the case. Here's the story --


 
TAPPER: Isn't it the --
TRUMP: I should have won this case on summary judgment. This is not a -- this is a case I should have won on summary judgment. You know, the law firm paid Hillary Clinton hundreds of thousands of dollars to make speeches. You know the law firm --
TAPPER: I do. And we reported -- we reported it on my show.
TRUMP: OK. I'm glad. You're the only one.
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: Wait a minute. A law firm paid hundreds and thousands of dollars to Hillary Clinton for speeches.
TAPPER: Is it not -- when Hillary Clinton says this is a racist attack, and you reject that -- if you're saying he can't do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism?
TRUMP: No. I don't think so at all.
TAPPER: No?
TRUMP: No. He's proud of his heritage. I respect him for that.
TAPPER: But you're saying you can't do his job because of that.
TRUMP: Look, he's proud of his heritage, OK? I'm building a wall.
Now, I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics because they are going to get jobs right now. They are going to get jobs. I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics.
We are building a wall. He's a Mexican. We're building a wall between here and Mexico.
 
You do realize that you just called a black man. One who voted for Obama's first term, was disenfranchised the second time around and was literally chased out of his own party. By a racist subset of members, who spent several weeks either threatening my life, or my career and that of my niece's wellbeing...

A racist...?

Can you not see how far you are falling right now?

Wow...My condolences...You poor man.

All lies.
 
Once again, you can't even prove that he's a fascist. So how am I supposed to believe that this little prediction of yours is actually on the mark, especially when it was so far off the mark last time?

How the **** do you prove someone is a fascist, dude?

If you have a Nazi tattoo on your forehead does that make you a fascist?

Your games are ****ing stupid.
 
Once again, you can't even prove that he's a fascist. So how am I supposed to believe that this little prediction of yours is actually on the mark, especially when it was so far off the mark last time?

Last time? Did Trump lose the 2016 election? What the **** are you talking about?
 
Here's proof that Trump is a bigot. Below is what he said about Judge Gonzalo Curiel regarding the Trump University case. Trump judged this man based on his Hispanic heritage, even though Curiel is an American citizen. Discriminating against someone based on their heritage is the very definition of a bigot.

TAPPER: What does this have to do with his heritage?
TRUMP: I'll tell you what it has to do. I've had ruling after ruling after ruling that's been bad rulings, OK? I've been treated very unfairly. Before him, we had another judge. If that judge was still there, this case would have been over two years ago.
Let me just tell you, I've had horrible rulings, I've been treated very unfairly by this judge. Now, this judge is of Mexican heritage. I'm building a wall, OK? I'm building a wall. I am going to do very well with the Hispanics, the Mexicans --


TAPPER: So, no Mexican judge could ever be involved in a case that involves you?
TRUMP: Well, he's a member of a society, where -- you know, very pro-Mexico, and that's fine. It's all fine, but --
TAPPER: Except that you're calling into question his heritage.
TRUMP: I think he should recuse himself.
TAPPER: Because he's Latino?
TRUMP: Then, you also say, does he know the lawyer on the other side? I mean, does he know the lawyer? You know, a lot of people say --
TAPPER: But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about --
TRUMP: That's another problem.
TAPPER: You're invoking his race, talking about whether or not he can do his job.
TRUMP: Jake, I'm building a wall. OK? I'm building a wall. I'm trying to keep business out of Mexico. Mexico's fine.
TAPPER: But he's an American.
TRUMP: He's of Mexican heritage and he's very proud of it, as I am where I come from, my parents.
TAPPER: But he's an American. You keep talking about it's a conflict of interest because of Mexico.
TRUMP: Jake, are you ready? I have a case that should have already been dismissed. I have thousands of people saying Trump University is fantastic, OK? I have a case that should have been dismissed. A judge that never, ever gives -- now, we lose the plaintiff. He lets the plaintiff of the case out.
So, why isn't he calling the case? So, we thought we won the case.

TAPPER: So, you disagree with his rulings. I totally understand that.
TRUMP: I've had lawyers come up to me and say, you are being treated so unfairly. It's unbelievable. You know the plaintiffs in the case have all said wonderful things about the school and they're suing. You know why they're suing? Because they want to get their money back.
TAPPER: I don't want to really litigate the case of Trump University.
TRUMP: You have to, because if he was giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't say that.
TAPPER: My question is --
TRUMP: Jake, if you were giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't be talking to you this way. He's given me horrible rulings.
TAPPER: I don't care if you criticize him, that's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying, if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job.
TRUMP: I think that's why he's doing it. I think that's why he's doing it.
TAPPER: When Hillary Clinton says it's a racist attack --
TRUMP: Hillary Clinton is a stiff. If Hillary Clinton becomes president --
TAPPER: Paul Ryan today -- Paul Ryan today said he didn't care for the way that you are attacking this judge.
TRUMP: Look, I'm just telling you, Paul Ryan doesn't know the case. Here's the story --


Wow, you actually supplied something. Too bad you forget to put in where it was addressed that this was because of the judges group. One that he was a member of for some time and one that had such outburst against Trump over the wall. That caused this issue. It's too bad they kept trying to make this about him just being of Mexican descent.

That's why it ended up failing.

You got anything else?

Edit:
It's called the La Raza Lawyers association by the way. Not that you really care.
 
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