Anyone else a devote anti-Trumpist who has had it with lib BS too?

[noonereal]

For example, I am as pissed about all the statues being removed as I am about Trump being incapable of speaking the truth.

I am done with, "the white man always goes last" policies from the left.

I am sick of BLM madness.

How about you?

 

[Antiwar]

Statue of limitations.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Evil people should not be celebrated. Put the statues in a museum

 

[noonereal]

Evil people should not be celebrated. Put the statues in a museum

I don't know about you but I have never celebrated a statue in my life.

Isn't a statue more a recognition of history or religion? Artistically recalled.

Heck, it's rare I even know who the statue in the park is of. To me it's just art.

It's insane to destroy beautiful spaces, historic reliefs. Of course al qaeda destroyed historical sites. I guess each sociaty has it;'s share of culturally void people.

 

[Jay59]

This just means it's time to look at the Trump administration for its results rather than its titular leader.

 

[pocket aces]

This just means it's time to look at the Trump administration for its results rather than its titular leader.

The results are shit.

 

[independentusa]

I don't know about you but I have never celebrated a statue in my life.

Isn't a statue more a recognition of history or religion? Artistically recalled.

Heck, it's rare I even know who the statue in the park is of. To me it's just art.

It's insane to destroy beautiful spaces, historic reliefs. Of course al qaeda destroyed historical sites. I guess each sociaty has it;'s share of culturally void people.

FIrst, it has never been whites last In this country, they have always been first. And second, those statues you are so proud of are of traitors to this country. Most of them took an oath to the union and were trained at West Point an then turned into seditionists. They were fighting to maintain slavery in the South and all new areas in the west. Not exactly the people I want statues of in my town.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

I don't know about you but I have never celebrated a statue in my life.

Isn't a statue more a recognition of history or religion? Artistically recalled.

Heck, it's rare I even know who the statue in the park is of. To me it's just art.

It's insane to destroy beautiful spaces, historic reliefs. Of course al qaeda destroyed historical sites. I guess each sociaty has it;'s share of culturally void people.

Hitler and Stalin statues were removed because they were erected to honor and celebrate them. Should we put statues of Hitler and Stalin in our parks and town squares for history and culture?

 

[pocket aces]

Hitler and Stalin statues were removed because they were erected to honor and celebrate them. Should we put statues of Hitler and Stalin in our parks and town squares for history and culture?

Obviously not, and I for one don’t mind taking down confederate statues, but when it goes to the founders and other great people in history, that is what I don’t like.

 

[Jay59]

The results are shit.

The Trump administration results were excellent.

I'll be fair. You can define the standard and we will examine the situation. I only ask that it apply equally to either party.

 

[pocket aces]

The Trump administration results were excellent.

I'll be fair. You can define the standard and we will examine the situation. I only ask that it apply equally to either party.

No they weren’t, and he didn’t win either.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I am done with, "the white man always goes last" policies from the left.

 

[KingLeo]

This just means it's time to look at the Trump administration for its results rather than its titular leader.

The results are even worse.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

For example, I am as pissed about all the statues being removed

Would it change your mind if you knew that the majority of the Confederate statues were erected in the early 1900’s, during the Jim Crow era as an intimidating reminder of “their place”?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Isn't a statue more a recognition of history or religion?

Not the Confederate statues.

Heck, it's rare I even know who the statue in the park is of. To me it's just art.

It shouldn’t be.

 

[trouble13]

Evil people should not be celebrated. Put the statues in a museum

That's a fine argument to make and it's a reasonable debate to have. What's unreasonable and unacceptable is for a mob to gather and to take it upon themselves to illegally topple statues they decided they want removed.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Obviously not, and I for one don’t mind taking down confederate statues, but when it goes to the founders and other great people in history, that is what I don’t like.

Agree. When the design of a statue includes a uniformed Confederate soldier, it is clearly intended to represent one specific aspect of the individual. That they fought to keep other human beings as property.

 

[yankintx]

For example, I am as pissed about all the statues being removed as I am about Trump being incapable of speaking the truth.

I am done with, "the white man always goes last" policies from the left.

I am sick of BLM madness.

How about you?

I am fed up with the Big Lie

How is that recount in AZ progressing?

 

[itstony]

As stated before, I am a conservative never Trump Republican so yes I have some issues with the actions on the left but I find a couple things true. First is that the country is better off with a moderate Democrat who understands politics better than a hot headed, narcissistic, childish businessman pretending to be a conservative president. Secondly I feel the country needs to seriously consider a shift to the center as I become more of a moderate thanks to the Trump experiment. This division can’t continue.

 

[yankintx]

Agree. When the design of a statue includes a uniformed Confederate soldier, it is clearly intended to represent one specific aspect of the individual. That they fought to keep other human beings as property.

Germany now recognizes there WWII dead as a generation of young men lost, they do not honor the cause they died for, Confederate lovers just don't get the difference.

 

[Atreus21]

For example, I am as pissed about all the statues being removed as I am about Trump being incapable of speaking the truth.

I am done with, "the white man always goes last" policies from the left.

I am sick of BLM madness.

How about you?

As far as statues go, I'm all in favor of the party of Jim Crow cleaning up its own messes,

 

[Jay59]

No they weren’t, and he didn’t win either.

The results are even worse.

You two live in Egypt, neck-deep in denial.

I offered objective proof but evidently, you don't care about facts.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Heck, it's rare I even know who the statue in the park is of. To me it's just art.

Lemme see if I have this right...
You see a statue honoring Pol Pot, Hitler, Idi Amin or Nathan Bedford Forrest, you don't know who they are, so it's just art.
Do I have that right?

So in essence everyone else who does know who these people are, including those whose family or ancestors might have been tortured or killed by them, must sink to YOUR level of ignorance because "you're done with the white man always goes last policies from the left."

Yeah, sorry but I think most folks would hear that rant and assume that person is a massive scumbag.
Don't even try to argue "I do KNOW who Hitler is" because we're talking about your defective logic, and those names are used to test that douchebag logic for the sake of discussion.
I could have substituted Jimmy Saville if we were in a thread about British children and statues honoring famous UK disc jockeys who were found out to be child molesters, and it would be the same trainload of douchebaggery.



Real nice...to you it's just art!

 

[Fearandloathing]

For example, I am as pissed about all the statues being removed as I am about Trump being incapable of speaking the truth.

I am done with, "the white man always goes last" policies from the left.

I am sick of BLM madness.

How about you?

Where oh where do I start?

I have come to intensely dislike white people....and I am one.

Look at the historical record. When ever anywhere has a colored person EVER been treated with equality? Oh we SAY shit, we have PROGRAMS, but not equality.

My country lives with the shame of the 100 years of the "Residential School Program" where they are now uncovering 100's of unmarked graves - likely Indian children who had been taken from their homes and left to rot at the hands of a tight fisted and tightly rapped Roman Catholic Church, where the staff routinely tortured, beat and raped the children.....in the name of Jesus of course, and some sick, twisted idea of "tough love".

We stand so proudly lecturing the likes of North Korea and China about human rights, yet natives make up 70% of the prison population but less than 7% of the whole country. That's not racism is it?

This in a country that flaunts the fact we were the freedom destination of escaped slaves, the end of the "underground railway".

So long as these issue exist we cannot pretend to be a "free" country because it isn't for everyone...neither is yours.

Me? I"m sick and tired of seeing statues of old white men who did nothing more than get filthy rich off the backs of immigrants; we brag about "The Golden Spike" the last rail spike to be driven in what was then the "longest railway in the world" and hide the fact the whole ****ing thing was built by low paid "Coolies" - Chinese immigrants who also settled much of the Canadian Prairie. We are astonished to find Chinese people in Moose Jaw who have been here for five and six generations (I am only 3rd generation).
You know...there is no sign, statue or indication of any kind for the embarkation location of the Underground Railway. It's like whites in both countries want to forget it all, and make monuments to politicians and millionaire land owners.
Why are there no statues of the brave ex-slaves who risked death for THEIR freedom? Where are the statues of the Chinese who built the railway. Why is it called the "Lewis & Clark Expedition" when all they did was follow Indian ways - they "discovered" shit.

And, for that matter, this Christopher Columbus moron got his ass lost at sea, 30,00 miles way from where he Insisted he was....and was rescued by the local natives...THREE TIMES.

Not my kind of Captain!

 

[Puigb]

As stated before, I am a conservative never Trump Republican so yes I have some issues with the actions on the left but I find a couple things true. First is that the country is better off with a moderate Democrat who understands politics better than a hot headed, narcissistic, childish businessman pretending to be a conservative president. Secondly I feel the country needs to seriously consider a shift to the center as I become more of a moderate thanks to the Trump experiment. This division can’t continue.

I'm not a Republican and lean to the left, but I'd vote for a moderate Republican like Charlie Baker depending on who the Dems nominated. This is of course assuming Baker sticks to his moderate beliefs, and doesn't pretend to be a "severe conservative" in the GOP primaries like Romney did in 2012.

But Charlie Baker has a better chance of winning a Democratic primary these days than a GOP Primary. The Charlie Baker's of the GOP are political pariahs now, and can only get elected in Democratic states, ironically.