Anybody left still willing to defend impeachment???

[James972]

..Your pleas for his inability to understand the law while being the leader of a nation is laughable at best.

???? no idea what this liberal is trying to say

 

[Moonglow]

actually trading military aid for anti corruption is not extortion and bribery but rather long standing foreign policy toward Ukraine and many other countries.

You seem to be forgetting the law that aid can't be denied or delayed without Congressional support or for a damn good reason. Trump violated this law... The Impoundment Control Act “limits the circumstances under which a president can legally impound Congressionally-appropriated funds.”

 

[Moonglow]

There is no obstruction unless courts rule there is and they have not. Dims are guilty of abuse of power by using impeachment power to charge obstruction when only court has that authority

Congress is that court per the Constitution.

 

[Moonglow]

???? no idea what this liberal is trying to say

Do you need a dictionary, do you speaka tha Englisha?

 

[James972]

Withholding aid to an ally in an attempt to strong-arm a foreign leader into making an announcement that your political rival is dirty

its not dirty at all, its our long standing policy to combat corruption in Ukraine and many other countries. You are letting your hatred think for you.

 

[James972]

It's corrupt,

How can fighting corruption be corrupt??? Would Biden have had to take $125K/month before you wanted to investigate him??

 

[ecofarm]

You seem to be forgetting the law that aid can't be denied or delayed without Congressional support or for a damn good reason. Trump violated this law... The Impoundment Control Act “limits the circumstances under which a president can legally impound Congressionally-appropriated funds.”

I'm guessing fake news beneficial to his campaign is not such a circumstance.

 

[lurchadams]

its not dirty at all, its our long standing policy to combat corruption in Ukraine and many other countries. You are letting your hatred think for you.

<shaking my head> I'm letting logic think for me. trump withheld badly needed aid to an ally in an attempt to extort a foreign power to do his personal dirty work.

 

[ecofarm]

That leaves half that don't or are undecided. Since it is a tie, let's go with...…………………………………………….

Want to bet that the majority of the 50% that want Trump impeached are Democrats?

I would prefer Trump be removed from office by the outcome of the 2020 election. That said there are some running for the Democratic nomination that I could not support and would have to vote for Trump. Better to have the evil you know than the evil that is unknown. Healthcare for illegal aliens, Reparation for non Americans, will not get my vote.

The country is not 50% democrats.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Half the country, more than 63 million voters, support removal from office.

The President extorted a foreign President with approved military aid for fake news of personal benefit.

Well then...if that is true then you should have no worries about defeating him in the upcoming election. Fact is...you guys know you are going to lose so....ya gotta impeach him. I mean...its not like you can win fairly with...what was it 63 million votes? lol.

 

[James972]

I noticed you cut out my part about the ridiculous claim that "trump cares about corruption". You and I both know that wasn't his motivation to extort Ukraine.

we don't care whether he or the folks at State Department cared about corruption or just wanted to advance their careers any more than we care if a doctor does a good job because he cares and for the money. Certainly the Constitution does not say if he doesn't care and an army of shrinks have determined that to be so he should be impeached.

 

[lurchadams]

How can fighting corruption be corrupt??? Would Biden have had to take $125K/month before you wanted to investigate him??

You're taking my posts only in partial context and posting fiction in response. If using political influence to give one's family desirable positions was illegal the entire trump family would be in jail.

 

[ecofarm]

Well then...if that is true then you should have no worries about defeating him in the upcoming election. Fact is...you guys know you are going to lose so....ya gotta impeach him. I mean...its not like you can win fairly with...what was it 63 million votes? lol.

Have you considered debating from a position other than cheerleader.

More than 63 million voters want him removed from office.

 

[Moonglow]

How can fighting corruption be corrupt??? Would Biden have had to take $125K/month before you wanted to investigate him??

What Hunter Biden does is not in anyway vital to US security...

 

[James972]

but to cast aspersion on his political rival in the 2020 election. He was taking a page out of the Benghazi playbook.

cast aspersions?????????????Hunter Biden 'was paid $83,333 a month by Ukrainian gas ...
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[Divine_Wind]

It was just a phone call in furtherance of long standing quid pro quo US policy: aid for anti-corruption. Its insanity to try to impeach him for doing his job and for hoping to benefit personally from doing a good job as any politician does all the time. Trump should be congratulated not impeached?

Yes, plenty. Why do you think Trump is innocent?

FoxNewsSunday on Twitter: "Fox News Poll: Has the President abused power? Obstructed Congress? Committed bribery?#FNS #FoxNews #Polls #Impeachment… https://t.co/qiKuz9nRZd"

 

[lurchadams]

we don't care whether he or the folks at State Department cared about corruption or just wanted to advance their careers any more than we care if a doctor does a good job because he cares and for the money. Certainly the Constitution does not say if he doesn't care and an army of shrinks have determined that to be so he should be impeached.

So if it was so morally righteous to withhold the aid to "root out corruption" as you claim then why was the aid released without trump getting what he wanted - which was an announcement by Zelensky that Biden was being investigated?

It's because the Whistleblower report was released and trump realized the jig was up.

 

[James972]

a president can't use congressionally approved military aid to extort another country for personal bribery. .

its obviously not extortion when anti corruption was long standing foreign policy, its doing his job. Its not personal when it is long standing policy of country.

 

[James972]

You seem to be forgetting the law that aid can't be denied or delayed without Congressional support or for a damn good reason. ”

Not at all they did not charge him with violating the law which said money had to be spent by end of fiscal year because it was spent on time, obviously.

 

[James972]

Trump violated this law... The Impoundment Control Act “limits the circumstances under which a president can legally impound Congressionally-appropriated funds.”

Obviously if he had it would have been very easy to impeach it for him

 

[lurchadams]

cast aspersions?????????????Hunter Biden 'was paid $83,333 a month by Ukrainian gas ...
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Oct 19, 2019 - Hunter Biden 'was paid $83,333 a month by Ukrainian gas company to be a "ceremonial figure" with a "powerful name" while his firm got a total ...

Well then I guess hiring Jared and Ivanka who don't know anything about government or foreign policy to be senior advisors, disregarding the fact that neither could pass the background/security clearance check is illegal as well?

 

[James972]

Congress is that court per the Constitution.

oh where in the Constitution????? Wonder why you forgot to tell us????????

 

[ecofarm]

its obviously not extortion when anti corruption was long standing foreign policy, its doing his job. Its not personal when it is long standing policy of country.

No one is as stupid as you imagine.

 

[James972]

trump withheld badly needed aid to an ally in an attempt to extort a foreign power to do his personal dirty work.

the missiles were was not badly needed since they had inventory and Putin knew they had them and soon would have more. THey were needed under Obama who refused them altogether. Dims loved Obama for his friendly attitude toward Putin and who give a crap attitude about UKraine.

 

[James972]

Well then...if that is true then you should have no worries about defeating him in the upcoming election. Fact is...you guys know you are going to lose so....ya gotta impeach him. I mean...its not like you can win fairly with...what was it 63 million votes? lol.

yes they would much rather talk impeachment than the Green New Deal Great Depression